The Critics' Reviews of Spider-Man 3 Thread

Nobody was complaining that Venom wasn't in 1 or 2, people would of been fine if he were absent for 3
 
They probably did but they pushed for more action scenes, probably kids didnt understand the nonaction scenes and asked "hey wheres venom!?!?" which is why arad pushed the blacksuit/venom/multiple-villian-angle/myspace-chemical-romance-parker stuff onto sam.

i know im gonna get flamed and boo'ed for this but i enjoyed the DVD DIRECTORS CUT of daredevil more than sm3 overall. SM3 had some good action pieces (but nothing as good as the train sequence in sm2) but overall it just falls apart while DD was a subtle movie that wasnt bloated and underdeveloped.
 
I think the film wouldn't been great if it was just New Goblin and Venom. Sandman was not needed,at least for me. I also think that the whole Eddie Brock/symbiote thing didn't really work for alot of people because I don't think Raimi gave a crap. Which is sad because that whole storyline with Brock,symbiote and Venom is so awesome.Let's face it,most people(me included)really wanted to see the black suit and Venom. If this film had just been Sandman and Goblin,and even the Vulture,I don't think as many people would've been interested or excited. I would be because I love Spidey and every film is something I look forward to very much. But knowing Venom was in this film made me want to see it even more.
Personally,I don't think Spidey 3 is as bad as most say,even the critics. More people still like the film than hate it. It's not like it's getting horrible reviews all around. If anything,it's a decent additon to the series. But I think that's to be expected. Spider-man 2 was such a glorious hit(both critically and in terms of money)that where else could Raimi and co. go but down?
Look,I love the film. It has it's bad moments,but I found it to be the best of the series. However,since alot of people didn't seem to like it I think Raimi,Maguire and Dunst should sign on for 1 more film,for part 4. Just to correct the mistake they made here. Go out on top and make Spider-man 4 the best one yet.
 
They probably did but they pushed for more action scenes, probably kids didnt understand the nonaction scenes and asked "hey wheres venom!?!?" which is why arad pushed the blacksuit/venom/multiple-villian-angle/myspace-chemical-romance-parker stuff onto sam.

i know im gonna get flamed and boo'ed for this but i enjoyed the DVD DIRECTORS CUT of daredevil more than sm3 overall. SM3 had some good action pieces (but nothing as good as the train sequence in sm2) but overall it just falls apart while DD was a subtle movie that wasnt bloated and underdeveloped.
Daredevil DC is a classic comic book movie IMO. I mean that version of the movie was great and really told the story of Daredevil.
 
Daredevil DC is a classic comic book movie IMO. I mean that version of the movie was great and really told the story of Daredevil.

Yep DCDD is really really good. I never saw the theatrical version so i dunno just how bad that was but for me the directors cut is so good that i have no problem watching it over and over again, in fact i find it less cheesey than batman begins which was also good but at times it felt too "flat" and "linear".

Just goes to show that a production budget doesnt matter, if you have a good script in the end the story will overcome the SFX. Thats why SM2 is such a fan favorite, it has almost the perfect amount of everything.
 
Another fine review from Author: dee.reid.


Director Sam Raimi returns for a third time to direct another "Spider-Man" movie, "Spider-Man 3," which promises to not only be an excellent summer movie, but a spectacular closer to a marvelous superhero saga. Darker than its predecessors, it asks the question that has plagued us for three years now: How will "Spider-Man 3" condense so many Marvel Comics' story lines and sub-plots into a 140-minute feature-length running time?

I had my own reservations about such notions when it was first announced that Spider-Man would be facing not one, not two, but THREE super-villains, each with long, drawn-out back-stories (and many comic book issues) of their own. As a lifelong fan of Spidey, the creation of Stan Lee and Steve Ditko for Marvel Comics, I was glad to hear that my favorite character (aside from Spider-Man himself) would be making a big-screen appearance now. After viewing the movie, another character becomes a favorite (more on this later).

The "Spider-Man" title is well-known in the comics industry for being one of the best examples of a superhero whose problems outside of saving the world were given times and places in print to be properly fleshed out. Peter Parker (played superbly in the movies by Tobey Maguire, who's unsure if he'll return for part IV, if one ever manifests itself) was a geek, a loner, in grade and financial trouble, and had romantic woes; a bite from a genetically altered spider only compounded his problems. So this is why so many average Joes, like me, could relate to Spider-Man so easily. Although DC Comics had Batman and Superman, who both had great story lines, adventures and romantic entanglements of their own, it was Spidey's persistent personal problems that won over readers. The first two movies have addressed these perfectly.

In "Spider-Man 3," things seem to be looking up for our hero, both as Peter Parker and as Spider-Man, though they won't be that way for long. It seems he's finally gotten his life together and everything is going his way: Spider-Man has saved New York City from certain danger so many times he's finally getting the respect he so richly deserves (including the Key to the City). At school, he's at the top of his class, and he's about to pop the question to girlfriend Mary Jane Watson (Kirsten Dunst).

However, he is still haunted by his inability to patch up his friendship with best pal Harry Osborn (James Franco), who blames Spider-Man and Peter for his father Norman Osborn's/Green Goblin's (played in the first film by Willem Dafoe, who also shows up here posthumously) death, although much is still unknown to the son, who eventually transforms himself into the notorious Green Goblin II, the first villain. And even though Mary Jane is a great Broadway actress and Peter tries to reassure her of that fact, she earns terrible reviews for her performance and is painfully distressed by the news. But because Peter is letting his newfound fame go to his head, it's difficult for her to express her real feelings to him.

The meat of the story gets underway when a mysterious black ooze bonds with Peter, and the alien symbiote brings about a darker side of his personality that threatens to destroy him. Once in the new "black suit," he comes to add revenge to his list of to-do items when he discovers that escaped convict Flint Marko (Thomas Haden Church) was involved in the death of his beloved Uncle Ben (Cliff Robertson, in flashback). Marko, on the other hand, while fleeing the cops, falls into an experimental vat and has his molecules zapped away, later reconstituting himself with the sand to become the Sandman. The Sandman becomes villain #2.

Meanwhile, a rival photographer at the Daily Bugle, Eddie Brock (Topher Grace), wants Peter's job of peddling photographs of Spider-Man to editor J. Jonah Jameson (J.K. Simmons). Brock is also dating Gwen Stacy (Bryce Dallas Howard), who may or may not be flirting with Peter. Needless to say, when the two share a kiss and Mary Jane sees it, she doesn't take it lightly. The Black Suit continues an assault on Peter, who becomes increasingly hostile and once realizing what it's done to him, separates from it, the symbiote later bonding with a vengeful Eddie Brock to become Venom, villain #3. Can Peter Parker/Spider-Man overcome Green Goblin II, The Sandman and Venom, his inner demons, and get back Mary Jane and save the world within the allotted 140 minutes?

Co-screenwriter Raimi returns to his love-labor project triumphant. While some things could have been better fleshed out, the 140-minute running time was really pushing it in terms of story. Still, he and brother Ivan's screenplay manages to play itself out reasonably, although I still believe much was left on the cutting room floor. It's also obvious Raimi's taken cues from the "Superman" movies on how to craft an epic story. It is true that "Spider-Man 3" seems to do a lot, but you have to give Raimi credit for doing what he was able to do, combing the pages of Marvel Comics and combining basically 40 years worth of storyline into 2 1/2 hours.

While I doubt Tobey Maguire will probably return for another sequel, this is undoubtedly the actor's finest performance. It's amazing how well he was able to balance the tangled emotions of his tormented character. Although he has to be the least expressive good actor out there, I really liked him here, especially in his "darker" scenes. The other actors were good, including the great Rosemary Harris as Aunt May and especially Thomas Haden Church as Flint Marko/The Sandman, who, like Dr. Otto Octavius/Dr. Octopus (Alfred Molina) from "Spider-Man 2" (2004), earns our hearts as a sympathetic villain.

For this fan, "Spider-Man 3" is a bit of a mixed triumph, but it's a valiant effort from actors and filmmakers that know the heart of their material well.

10/10
 
Fans weren't complaining about the lack of Venom in 1 or 2, but they did demand Venom in the third, it's that simple.
 
Thanks guys, appreciate the feedback.

I hope to be reviewing Spider-man 2.1 soon as well for the site.
 
Yeah...that was a good review. I don't agree with your reviews often...but that one was good. lol
 
I give Raimi 10/10 for effort.

It is obvious that this man gave 100% effort on this movie despite that it was not as satisfying as many would like it to be. But hey, what Avi wants, Avi gets.

I'm sure when Avi forced Raimi to add Brock/Venom into the mix, Raimi must have said to Avi that he'd be willing to put Brock in SM4 and give Brock a proper storyline, but hey, what Avi wants, Avi gets.

So here we have it, Avi's SM3.
 
i don'y yjhink that was it i think avi just didn't realize how much rami was cutting out or not putting in of venom
 
i like the movei more now that i re-examined the climax cuz i liked the story just fine but the pacing in part 2 ws probably better
 
There are many things I would've done differently in spidey 3, but I have ended up loving it anyway!
 
Daredevil DC is a classic comic book movie IMO. I mean that version of the movie was great and really told the story of Daredevil.


When I first saw DD at the theater, I thought the movie was way short and obviously chopped up (maybe for running time?), although I still enjoyed it.

The DC is a substantially better film, and fills in some holes. It really made DD a better movie. The DC should have been the theatrical version.
 
When I first saw DD at the theater, I thought the movie was way short and obviously chopped up (maybe for running time?), although I still enjoyed it.

The DC is a substantially better film, and fills in some holes. It really made DD a better movie. The DC should have been the theatrical version.
Why is that? I hate when directors or movies do that, its really a shame.

btw I f'n love your Avatar and Signature. I'm a huge Crow fan I absolutely love The Crow I still say that movie is the best superhero movie ever.

It's cool to see another die-hard Crow fan and also to know you're from Chicago too. :woot:

"Dad gave me this. Fifth birthday. He said, "Childhood's over the moment you know you're gonna die." - Top Dollar
 
The reason they don't release the Directors' full cut in theatres is because the studio force the filmakers to cut the film in order to suit the blockbuster crowd who arn't able to sit through the full duration. The irony of this however is that some of the biggest films of recent time have been extremely long films (POTC:DMC, LOTR, Spiderman 3 etc)
 
Well thats the idea of the DC, it is a far superior film, although I enjoyed the theatrical version as well, it really captured the atmosphere of Miller's run
 

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