Stormyprecious said:I thought she was great. She makes the character far more intense and adds emotion to it(ie. when Wydell is tormenting her at the end)instead of just the over the top eccentric routine in Corpses.
Well, to each his own, I guess.
Stormyprecious said:I thought she was great. She makes the character far more intense and adds emotion to it(ie. when Wydell is tormenting her at the end)instead of just the over the top eccentric routine in Corpses.
Movies205 said:This movie was terrible, the script was terrible, the acting was terrible, and it's just outright garbage unless your a gore-hound. It was jsut throw as much sick **** on the screen for no reason...
Mr. Smash'n Bash said:Rob Zombie is a terrible Director, He should have just stuck with White Zombie.
reggiebar said:Devils' Rejects is not a horror film, so comparing the Firefly clan with Freddy doesn't really work as they should be compared more to Kit & Holly from Badlands or Mickey & Mallory from NBK or even the group in the Wild Bunch.
The point is that in Badlands or even Natural Born Killers or The Wild Bunch, the films present the protaganists (murderers all of them) as sympathetic characters based on their backgrounds (okay not Mickey but certainly Mallory). So, when the audience "feels" or "sympathizes" with these characters, it is because a clear background to their motivations has been established and these characters have been developed so that the audience understands why they became what they became (murderers). Heck, even the background of what happened to Feddy Kruger is established so that the audience understands what made him turn into what he became. Now, in The Devil's Rejects, Rob Zombie was able to make a huge portoin of the audience of his film relate to a bunch of homicidal, sadistic murderers without EVER developing the history of these characters and perhaps what would have driven them into the life that they lead. So, when I argue that Rob Zombie was able to accomplish having a vast majority of the audience relate to these characters without ever giving the audience a "real/developed" reason to sympathize with these characters, I believe that I am correct in my assumption that the only reason that he was able to accomplish this task was because of how many people relate to stylized violence in today's society. See, I am not only examining the film but also then social climate of today's society and how Rob Zombie was able to accomplish the task of having the majority of the audience who enjoyed this film relate to these characters simply based on the fact that one was a hot babe and one was very funny clown. I believe that you are missing the point when you state that "that the charming or sympathetic killer isn't exactly a new thing in film" as, of course, it is not new in film. However, in those past instances, the motivations and past histories of what drove these charming or sympathetic killers to become what they become has been established in the film (for example what happened to Freddy Kruger when the town killed him or Mallory's father's constant abuse and child molestation during her youth).
So, I pose this question to you, what exactly in the Devil's Rejects or even H1000C, did Zombie establish that would allow the audience to sympathize or relate to the Firefly family that would allow one to root for a bunch of total sadistic, homicidal, people who seem to show absolutely no remorse for their actions nor any motivation for these actions beyond the simple pleasure of ritualistic torture, rape and murder? When you can find these examples of the development of the Firefly family's history and why they are what they are, get back to me....until then raffle down.
I think this film is brilliant because it is the perfect indication of just how far our society has fallen that people can sympathize with charcaters like the Firefly family where the the film gave no reason to relate to them other than the fact that they were funnier (and hot in Baby's case) than the force of good that pursuing them throughout the movie.
oh hell yeah brutha! I've agreed with everything you've said in this thread!lockjaw said:If your easily offended why would you subject yourself to it in the first place? To say it's "garbage" is just silly. In this day and age of really bad movies this (film) is a breath of fresh air. Nuthin wrong with a little blood. I thought the whole thing was beautifull. It was pretty. Really well done. Best sound track and use of classic songs ever. Great dialouge too . . .

Movies205 said:This movie was terrible, the script was terrible, the acting was terrible, and it's just outright garbage unless your a gore-hound. It was jsut throw as much sick **** on the screen for no reason...
lockjaw said:I gotta put my 2 cents in here folks, This movie owned my you know what. I just went to pick up the soundtrack as it's sparked a long-lost love of southern rock in me. The opening scene set to Midnight Rider - AHHHH so good. This film is good because it resonates. You cant just leave it and walk away.
BTW- The Dukes sound track is even better. If the film's 1/2 as good as the music it's gonna be a classic.
Punisher 04 said:![]()
"I'm calling the shots! Consider me f****** Willy ****ing Wonka. This is my f****** chocolate factory. You got it? My factory!" ~ Otis

lockjaw said:If your easily offended why would you subject yourself to it in the first place? To say it's "garbage" is just silly. In this day and age of really bad movies this (film) is a breath of fresh air. Nuthin wrong with a little blood. I thought the whole thing was beautifull. It was pretty. Really well done. Best sound track and use of classic songs ever. Great dialouge too . . .
Stormyprecious said:It wasn't even that gory.
Exactly. I can't get it out of my head. I'm honestly afraid I'm going to go broke on this movie, what w/ repeat viewings, figures, posters, t-shirts. I'm a consumer ****e who can't whipe the twisted, s**t-eating grin off of his face.lockjaw said:This film is good because it resonates. You cant just leave it and walk away.
guitarsingerguy said:I didn't find it that sick and gory either.![]()
The Lumberjack said:Exactly. I can't get it out of my head. I'm honestly afraid I'm going to go broke on this movie, what w/ repeat viewings, figures, posters, t-shirts. I'm a consumer ****e who can't whipe the twisted, s**t-eating grin off of his face.![]()
Stormyprecious said:I thought it was extremely sick, but not all that gory.
And that's a bad thing?Movies205 said:Easily offended? Not really but there was no point to the movie at all, there was no great message here, no great film master-piece, just an overly-gorey throw-back to 70s horror, it's just cheezy as hell and it was actually fun in the sense that I and my friends were laughing the entire movie at how cheezy it was.
Some girls like that.Stormyprecious said:Like Otis putting a gun in a woman's vagina, ugh

Stormyprecious said:Yup, I'm seeing it for the 5th x tonight, plus I've already bought 2 t-shirts, the soundtrack, all 4 figures(Baby, Otis, Spaulding, and Tiny), magnets, and I'm more merchanise to come...
Wilhelm-Scream said:Some girls like that.![]()