The Devils Rejects

[lockjaw]

Easily offended? Not really but there was no point to the movie at all, there was no great message here, no great film master-piece, just an overly-gorey throw-back to 70s horror, it's just cheezy as hell and it was actually fun in the sense that I and my friends were laughing the entire movie at how cheezy it was.

okay dimwit 70's "horror" is as follows . . .
1. Exorcist
2. Rosemary's baby
3. Jaws
4. The Omen
these are horror movies. Devil's is not, nor does it even claim to be. In fact Devil's is closer to the classic road trip/crime movie Easy Rider, or more recentlly because it seems like you havent seen a film made before 1990 . . . Kalifornia, Natural Born Killers, Freeway or the first half of Dusk till Dawn . . .I'm just saying . . .

 

[The Dark Defender]

Links please!!! I need all this stuff too, particularly a Baby "doll" . I guess it's on ebay? At any rate I'm going back for round 2 tonight with my girlfriend. The cool part is - she doesnt know anything about the movie at all!! Rejects rocks! It is now officially my favorite movie of the summer . . .

The figures I got on Ebay, but they also sell them at Hot Topic and Spencer's Gifts. I got the t-shirts and magnets at Hot Topic and they also sell DR lunch boxes.

 

[Savage]

okay dimwit 70's "horror" is as follows . . .
1. Exorcist
2. Rosemary's baby
3. Jaws
4. The Omen
these are horror movies. Devil's is not, nor does it even claim to be. In fact Devil's is closer to the classic road trip/crime movie Easy Rider, or more recentlly because it seems like you havent seen a film made before 1990 . . . Kalifornia, Natural Born Killers, Freeway or the first half of Dusk till Dawn . . .I'm just saying . . .

THANK YOU! Those are EXACTLY the movies I thought of when I saw it. Also thought of Bonnie and Clyde. Especially because of the ending.

 

[lockjaw]

"Never turn your back on a F**king clown!" Saw it again last night. Unfortunatlly my girlfriend didnt think it was qute as special as I do/did. I 'll see it again when I get the DVD, I dont wanna burn-myself-out on it . . .

 

[Movies205]

I think this film is brilliant because it is the perfect indication of just how far our society has fallen that people can sympathize with charcaters like the Firefly family where the the film gave no reason to relate to them other than the fact that they were funnier (and hot in Baby's case) than the force of good that pursuing them throughout the movie.

I think I figure out why I didn't like this film... and it's UTTERLY pathetic, it's probably because I have morals. Everyone keeps saying how they sympathise for the stupid family, I was happy when they were brought in and had no sympathy for them at all when they started getting tortured. If you have to be morrally depraved to enjoy this movie then I suppose you have a case. Now let me make one thing clear I'm not against gory movies I loved Evil Dead 1 and 2, I own Nightmare on Elm Street Box Set along with the F13 box set, I love the living dead series, I mean I have special place in my heart for gore and what not because it's fun to watch because the bad guy always dies in the end and it isn't a glorification of it nor is it seeking sympathy for the killer.

okay dimwit 70's "horror" is as follows . . .
1. Exorcist
2. Rosemary's baby
3. Jaws
4. The Omen
these are horror movies. Devil's is not, nor does it even claim to be. In fact Devil's is closer to the classic road trip/crime movie Easy Rider, or more recentlly because it seems like you havent seen a film made before 1990 . . . Kalifornia, Natural Born Killers, Freeway or the first half of Dusk till Dawn . . .I'm just saying

No need for insults merely having conversation, only ignorant and fanatics insult people and usually there opinions mean nothing, please show your above this. As for 70s horror are you not forgetting Texas Chainsaw Masscre? and how about Last House on the Left, so please my point still stands. Devil's Rejects is a horror movie the only difference between this and TCM(other than TCM actually being a good movie) is that it told from the killer's point of view. Now this is my opinion, please have an educated response instead of insults because I'm merely stating my point of view as I respect your opinion and I'm not even looking to even change it merely pointing out why my opinion is the way it is. I hate how I have to explain this all the time...

 

[The Dark Defender]

I love how you say "no need for insults" after you basically just insulted anybody that likes the movie.

 

[lockjaw]

No need for insults merely having conversation, only ignorant and fanatics insult people and usually there opinions mean nothing, please show your above this. As for 70s horror are you not forgetting Texas Chainsaw Masscre? and how about Last House on the Left, so please my point still stands. Devil's Rejects is a horror movie the only difference between this and TCM(other than TCM actually being a good movie) is that it told from the killer's point of view. Now this is my opinion, please have an educated response instead of insults because I'm merely stating my point of view as I respect your opinion and I'm not even looking to even change it merely pointing out why my opinion is the way it is. I hate how I have to explain this all the time...

I guess your one of those overly-sensitive posters that over-look smileys (as my post was littered with them!) when it suits your weak POV. That's fine, I really was nice before - Remember you're the one that called it "GARBAGE" and more or less left it at that- but now I suppose I have to break-it-down a little clearer for you. You only mention 2 films ( that are decidedly NOT true HORROR films) above and the rest of your post is spent blabbering about how "we are all intitled to an opinion ect, ect" I agree with the second part but let's address the first. You are compairing the DR to TCM because they both take place in Texas and have killer families the similarities between the films ends there. LHOTL is an example of what is now called "survival" horror. You could have also mentioned The Hills Have Eyes or I Spit on Your Grave. These films were/are grindhouse B-movies and their focus was more kin to the "slasher" genre than that of "horror"

If I have to justify my pleasure in Devil's Rejects I would link it to the technical side of the production. They got the look of the period right. The edits and cinamatography are killer. The soundtrack, again couldnt think of a better use of music in a film . . . reminds me of Resevor Dogs in that regard. Speaking of Resevor Dogs, I find Devil's Rejects closest to that film in terms of tone and building anti-heros out of truely hate-able characters. ​

 

[Movies205]

I guess your one of those overly-sensitive posters that over-look smileys (as my post was littered with them!) when it suits your weak POV. That's fine, I really was nice before - Remember you're the one that called it "GARBAGE" and more or less left it at that- but now I suppose I have to break-it-down a little clearer for you. You only mention 2 films ( that are decidedly NOT true HORROR films) above and the rest of your post is spent blabbering about how "we are all intitled to an opinion ect, ect" I agree with the second part but let's address the first. You are compairing the DR to TCM because they both take place in Texas and have killer families the similarities between the films ends there. LHOTL is an example of what is now called "survival" horror. You could have also mentioned The Hills Have Eyes or I Spit on Your Grave. These films were/are grindhouse B-movies and their focus was more kin to the "slasher" genre than that of "horror"

If I have to justify my pleasure in Devil's Rejects I would link it to the technical side of the production. They got the look of the period right. The edits and cinamatography are killer. The soundtrack, again couldnt think of a better use of music in a film . . . reminds me of Resevor Dogs in that regard. Speaking of Resevor Dogs, I find Devil's Rejects closest to that film in terms of tone and building anti-heros out of truely hate-able characters.

Sorry I couldn't read it.... I needed to change it back to regular forum style.

FIrst off Reservoir dogs is a good movie, do you know why? Because the psychotic killer is not the guy we're suppose to sympathise with, he's the guy we naturally hate and want dead. COMPLETELY different films both of course are gory but Reservoir Dogs is masterfully directed because the gore is used to emphasize the brutality and sick mind of Mr. Blonde and made us hate him more so when he died it was good. If you noticed the main characters Mr. WHite and Mr. Orange were "good" character, one was an undercover FBI agent and the other was just a man trying to make his way in the world if you noticed he didn't want kill innocent life yet was still on the wrong side of the law. While Devil's Rejects takes three terrible people who sick and psychotic and expects us to feel bad for them. The point of a movie is to sympathise with the main character or to actually care about them and there "problem". Now how the hell could you actually care about the family in Devil's Rejects unless you were sick in the head(no offense) just making a rhetorical family. Here are three people with no redeaming values and they take pleasure in torturing and killing people. Now one could argue that the movie was about Wydell and we're suppose to feel bad for him but it tolds through the eyes of psychotic family, well if it was then ROb Zombie failed horribly as a director and writer because the Wydell character is a terrible uninteresting and cliche character thus making it boring. TCM is a horror film and this is a horror film. Any movie that's subject matter is about torture and obscene killing is a horror movie just like Silence of the Lambs is a horror movie.

Now as for the "Techincal Side" of things a movie can nail everythign perfectly in terms of the Techincal Side of things, I mean look at Passion of the Christ the film is ABSOLUTELY beautifully shot but the movie itself is crap and that's because the story of the "MOVIE" sucks, it's just a guy getting torture for 2 hours. Now I agree the look of the film is excellent but the editing and soundtrack I thought were lame. Actually I think the look of the characters are awesome I thought the posters were great and I saw a lot of potential but in the end the script is destroyed by crappy acting and cliche one-liners, and a ****ty script.

Now as for me saying the film is garbage perhaps that was a bit harsh, I mean in my review over at my thread I gave it 5 stars but That wasn't insult toward you guys, so I don't know why you take it as such.

 

[Movies205]

I love how you say "no need for insults" after you basically just insulted anybody that likes the movie.

And when did I do this?

 

[lockjaw]

I'm agreeing to disagree with you. I think we're the only 2 around here that even care one way or another at this point anyway . . .

 

[lockjaw]

the soundtrack does indeed rock. That I'm not budging on . . .

 

[Movies205]

I'm agreeing to disagree with you. I think we're the only 2 around here that even care one way or another at this point anyway . . .

That's fine I like arguing the point because most of the time I learn something new or see something I didn't before such as that the film was well made, I will say that.

 

[The Dark Defender]

And when did I do this?

Claiming people that like the film don't have morals is pretty much insulting them.

 

[lockjaw]

bump . . .DR's rules. Plain and simple.

 

[reggiebar]

This is the best post I've read on any site in regards to the film. Summerizes my feelings twords the film even better than Ebert's gushing review. thanks

Thanks a lot

 

[lockjaw]

THANK YOU! Those are EXACTLY the movies I thought of when I saw it. Also thought of Bonnie and Clyde. Especially because of the ending.

Yep, I forgot that one, dead-on observation - but the score is better in Devil's Rejects! Bonnie & Clyde is a film I (personally) burned-out about 8 years ago. I love that movie. I'm giving it another year before I start watching it again!

 

[lockjaw]

Thanks a lot

you gotta give up the props when they're due

 

[lockjaw]

bump . . .DR's rules. Plain and simple.

go see it. Then return here to discuss . . .

 

[logan_weapon_x]

Just out in the UK. Really liked it. Not once did I ever sympathise with the Firefly clan. I relished every minute that Wydell ripped them to pieces. There were a few walk outs though. I think the people kinda misunderstood what the movie was about, over here.

 

[Dark Donnie]

I still haven't seen ti!

 

[logan_weapon_x]

Oh and Darkdonnie - Best Avatar Ever!

 

[Dark Donnie]

Oh and Darkdonnie - Best Avatar Ever!

Thanks, im in a Johnny Cash phase after seeing the Walk the Line trailer!

 

[Balthus Dire]

So, yeah. I just watched HO1000C. I have a few questions.


1) What happens to Grandpa in Devils Rejects? He was in the first movie, then he's gone in the second.

2) The last 20 minutes. What the gay happened here? I mean, they way I figured, Dr. Satan was a messed up dude on life support who continued weird experiements on people from underneath the town. I assumed the Fireflys put people in the ground there to give to Dr. Satan. Am I correct in this assumption?


All in all, I have to say Devil's Rejects was 1000 times better than the first film. Way smarter, way more realistic, way more original, way better characters, and no supernatural crap that makes no ****in sense.

Bleh!

 

[Balthus Dire]

I think I figure out why I didn't like this film... and it's UTTERLY pathetic, it's probably because I have morals. Everyone keeps saying how they sympathise for the stupid family, I was happy when they were brought in and had no sympathy for them at all when they started getting tortured. If you have to be morrally depraved to enjoy this movie then I suppose you have a case. Now let me make one thing clear I'm not against gory movies I loved Evil Dead 1 and 2, I own Nightmare on Elm Street Box Set along with the F13 box set, I love the living dead series, I mean I have special place in my heart for gore and what not because it's fun to watch because the bad guy always dies in the end and it isn't a glorification of it nor is it seeking sympathy for the killer.

That's why this movie is so interesting for me. I didn't exactly feel sympathy for the characters when they were being tortured, but you do come to like them. They are likeable characters when you forget all the messed up **** they do to people, and that's the really interesting part.

You can like these guys, but they are psychopaths who would kill you without batting an eye.

 

[Savage]

So, yeah. I just watched HO1000C. I have a few questions.


1) What happens to Grandpa in Devils Rejects? He was in the first movie, then he's gone in the second.

2) The last 20 minutes. What the gay happened here? I mean, they way I figured, Dr. Satan was a messed up dude on life support who continued weird experiements on people from underneath the town. I assumed the Fireflys put people in the ground there to give to Dr. Satan. Am I correct in this assumption?


All in all, I have to say Devil's Rejects was 1000 times better than the first film. Way smarter, way more realistic, way more original, way better characters, and no supernatural crap that makes no ****in sense.

Bleh!

There was nothing supernatural about it. Dr. Satan kept his victims alive, he just f**ked them up really bad, pretty much creating his own freakshow(which Otis tries to copy. He idolizes the guy apparantly). I liked the last 20 minutes. The whole revelation of Dr.Satan. Especially cut with Captain Spaulding's narration and images from the ride. What I think happened though is she was caught. The last 20 minutes was probably just a dream cause Earl was definately alive and well. I don't know at what point it was but she was caught and brought down...

What I think personally is is that she was just another one of his subjects. The whole movie was her recalling how she got there or even dreaming it. It all could be a lie or maybe the last 20 minutes was a lie. Who knows for sure except Rob himself. She woke up only to either a)be reminded where she is and always has been and that the whole escape thing was just a dream or b)wakes up to realize she was captured and has become one of Dr. Satan's experiments.

Either way it was a kickass movie for me and I know very few people that DIDN'T like it.