The Dune Series

[HUMAN]

Should someone come along and make new Dune movies? It would seem relevant with the obsession of oil and the need for a messiah in many cultures.

 

[BT18]

no. The subjects of oil and messianic need are good ripe ones for making movies about but Dune just sucks in every way, shape, and form. Atleast the original movie does, which was already remade on Scifi to still sucking results. Never read the novel, but again, the movies already been done multiple times.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

David Lynch's Dune is a masterpiece. If you don't like it then Judge Judy is going to come down on your ass HARD.

 

[BT18]

David Lynch's Dune is a masterpiece. If you don't like it then Judge Judy is going to come down on your ass HARD.

No amount of pimple-faced worship will ever make that overblown mess entertaining, coherent, , or remotely endurable. Everything is so so slow and labored, so we can what? Learn about the spice trade in the year nine thousand ? It's a piece of crap.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

This is, like an urban myth...that "Dune" is "incoherant".

Will you please tell me what's "incoherant" about it?

Also, it's not supposed to be like a "Star Wars" or a "Buck Rogers".
The books are intentionally written dry and boring, like a Bible, listing geneologies and quoting fictional footnotes to fictional histories, etc.
You have to be in the mood for it. It's like the wine, or espresso or caviar of sci-fi.

 

[HUMAN]

Have you seen the extended cut, Wilhelm? It's pretty awesome.

Besides, I think Dune could be done superbly with todays technology. LOTR had been made before as well, but none of the incarnations have been as good as what Peter Jackson did with the series. The same could go for Dune. Amp up the action and we got a masterpiece of filmmaking.

 

[Pink Ranger]

The politics of the current age would make a Dune remake really dicey. A movie where the good guys, native desert dwellers, go on a "jihad" against a more sophisticated, imperious occupying power would be hard to get off the ground.

 

[Movies205]

no. The subjects of oil and messianic need are good ripe ones for making movies about but Dune just sucks in every way, shape, and form. Atleast the original movie does, which was already remade on Scifi to still sucking results. Never read the novel, but again, the movies already been done multiple times.

It's called a "book" *******, try reading one next time. As for the movie I saw David Lynch's Dune, my friend was reading the book and so we rented it, and the movie's got some good things and some bad things, but over-all is pretty mediocre, and it has nothing to do with being incoherant. My friend says the book is awesome so I'll probably get around to reading it soon.

 

[BT18]

It's called a "book" *******, try reading one next time. As for the movie I saw David Lynch's Dune, my friend was reading the book and so we rented it, and the movie's got some good things and some bad things, but over-all is pretty mediocre, and it has nothing to do with being incoherant. My friend says the book is awesome so I'll probably get around to reading it soon.

Maybe I have to be mentally ******ed to understand what you're trying to say or what you interpreted I said in the post you're responding to. "Try reading one next time" ? Next time I what?

 

[Speedball]

Dune is BORING!
It takes way too long for anything to happen, and when it does, it's lame.
I hate stories that take place in the desert, because it's the same image in every scene.

 

[HUMAN]

Some say LOTR is boring. Yet the books made millions and millions of people love the world. Same with Dune. The trick is to get a talented filmmaker to get it on the screen, find out what would fit the film the best and go for it. The problem I had with the David Lynch's Dune is that there was too much narration by the characters about they thought or about what they were feeling. A lot of times it was needless, but the lines that were purposeful needed to be there. I just feel with todays technology and film know-how, it could be done better.

 

[Speedball]

Some say LOTR is boring. Yet the books made millions and millions of people love the world. Same with Dune. The trick is to get a talented filmmaker to get it on the screen, find out what would fit the film the best and go for it. The problem I had with the David Lynch's Dune is that there was too much narration by the characters about they thought or about what they were feeling. A lot of times it was needless, but the lines that were purposeful needed to be there. I just feel with todays technology and film know-how, it could be done better.

I'm sure the Dune books are WAY better than the film versions we have.

 

[Movies205]

Maybe I have to be mentally ******ed to understand what you're trying to say or what you interpreted I said in the post you're responding to. "Try reading one next time" ? Next time I what?

Your post came off terribly ignorant, since you never actually read the book.

 

[C. Lee]

Should someone come along and make new Dune movies? It would seem relevant with the obsession of oil and the need for a messiah in many cultures.

Since the first 3 books have been done excellently by the Sci Fi channel in the last few years....I see no reason to redo them so soon....but they could continue on with the rest of the series....even getting into the prequel novels his son has done recently.

 

[BT18]

***There was no need for that - C. Lee***

 

[Movies205]

***There was no need for that - C. Lee***

Owned

But in all honestly, I'm a rude prick on these boards so perhaps my original post should be modified, I sometimes forget this isn't like real life where people know my personality, and get the drift of what I'm saying half the time. But then again I haven't had any trouble since my time at the Community.

 

[Sawyer]

Dune is a bad movie

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Why?
It's bad WHY?

Unless by "bad" you mean "Breath-taking, fantastic, chilling, heart-rending and visually mind-blowing"

 

[Movies205]

Why?
It's bad WHY?

Unless by "bad" you mean "Breath-taking, fantastic, chilling, heart-rending and visually mind-blowing"

I felt it was cheesy and somewhat bland, I'm all for slow movies that bring you into this completely different world, but the movie didn't make me particularly give a **** about what happens to the characters and that just kills it. Plus Sting is unbelieavable cheesy as is that evil fat guy.

 

[Pink Ranger]

Why?
It's bad WHY?

Unless by "bad" you mean "Breath-taking, fantastic, chilling, heart-rending and visually mind-blowing"

It's certainly mind-blowing that someone suggested that it would be a good idea for "Toto" to score an epic feature film, and that an acclaimed director and major film company said, "Dude, that rocks. Let's go with it."

As someone who has read and loved the books, I would have to say the Lynch film is generally bad. It's almost saved by Kyle McLachlan and Francesca Annis' performances alone, plus the design of the Guild Navigator was awesome even by today's standards, and the depiction of Alia was cool (incidentally, Patrick Stewart should have been upgraded to Duke Leto from Gurney). But there's just too much to despise: the unnecessary invention of the weirding devices, the rain at the end, the abandonment of one really, really key plot point, etc.

Still, I believe one could make a streamlined feature film about Dune, but today's politics won't allow it.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Well, I disagree with you all, but it's nice to see some reasons put forth instead of just the usual, "Dune sucked. It was incomprehensible."

 

[xwolverine2]

Booooooooooring!

 

[bored]

Like C.Lee said, some of them were done for the Sci-Fi Channel recently, and were very good.

 

[DarKush]

I loved the first three Dune novels, but my interest petered out after reading the fourth book.

I think the Lynch film had the right look and great casting. However, the theatrical version did a less than stellar job of adapting the first book. But it is so large and complex a novel that I doubt it can really be done in a two hour movie.

The extended version of Lynch's Dune shown often on Sci-Fi channel of the movie is much better. I also prefer the Sci-Channel miniseries of Dune. I wish we could have had Lynch's look/cast and that script. Because the Sci-Fi miniseries was closer to the books. But they also did a good job of adding more stuff for Princess Irulan. The miniseries also did a better job with Baron Harkonnen, portraying him as a manipulator and plotter, and less of a braying madman.

The Children of Dune follow up suffered from poor FX, and weak casting in the role of Alia, who was the driving force behind much of the film. Though I liked the increased role of Irulan, Susan Sarandon's character, and Alice Krige as Jessica was cool. I also liked the new Stilgar.

I would like to see more Dune. I think the Dune prequel books are more tailor made to be adapted to film.

God Emperor would be very hard to do. I think the last three books would perhaps have to be combined in a miniseries.

Haven't read the Butlerian Jihad books so I don't know if they are even worthy to be discussed for adaptation.

 

[Silvermoth]

I wonder when they’ll start casting for the second one? I’m keen to see what they do next