The FACEBOOK Thread - Part 2

There's people on my facebook who I haven't talked to in ages. I feel reluctant about liking or commenting on posts because of that. I've not been deleted , but some ended their profiles (although you can bring it back at any time). I did remove an ex-girlfriend but she messaged me a couple weeks later and asked me why. I don't think it's necessary for her to be on there , but was nice and added her back.
If someone deleted me I might not take it personal if we haven't talked in a long time. It depends on how close I was to them.

If I really wanted them back I might send a message or a friend request. It's not too confrontational unless you message them repeatedly looking for answers.
 
I agree, I'll occasionally find out that a friend of mine from high school un-friended me, and it stings at first, but then I think about whether they were a close friend or just someone I knew from a friend.

But sending another friend request isn't a bad idea.
 
A good friend of mine that I haven't seen for a couple years (since I moved overseas) removed me from their friends. I hate to admit this, but..... it kinda hurt me because despite the absence I still thought we were tight. Should I ask her why she removed me or would it seem desperate or overly confrontational? Should I just forget this person and move on?

If you guys are close then I doubt she would think you were being desperate if you message her about it. Perhaps it was a mistake and you would just be letting her know, but if there's no response then I'd move on from there.
 
Well, what's strange is we used to have about fifty mutual friends. Now we have 4. She obviously had a massive purge of almost everyone on her friend's list. I chatted with another friend tonight who was also deleted by her. He was also puzzled. We were cool, so I don't know what her deal is.
 
The title is misleading...

http://gizmodo.com/5976014/facebook...gle-meet-your-new-search-engine-updating-live

Jan 15, 2013 1:05 PM
Facebook Just Declared War on Google: Meet Your New Search Engine

Sam Biddle

Today's big bad Facebook revelation is a search engine—not for the web, but for your entire life. And it's just another step in Facebook's attempt to conquer the entire Internet. This is Graph Search.

Facebook's search has been convoluted and weak for years until now—it's hard to expect what you get when you type anything in, even if it's your best friend's name. People, pages, maybe places. Boring and often broken. But with today's search monster, Zuckerberg isn't just offering you a way to find your friends (or college frenemies). And it's beyond just some attempt at a Google replacement. It's an attempt to do what Google failed at doing—pulling all the information that matters to you within the context of your social life, skipping the results that are popular to The Internet, in favor of the results that are popular within a group you actually give a damn about. Not a horde of strangers. Everyone you know uses Facebook, and now those people are going to work for you when you search.

Graph Search doesn't replace the current Facebook search, but offers a massively expanded new way to explore your web social life. Photos, places, interests, and of course, people can all be cataloged and called up instantly.





For example: searching for a sushi restaurant won't just bring up a well-linked list a la Google. Instead, your restaurant query will be answered with a little help from your friends, presenting you with suggestions based on where your relations have checked in. Eventually, Graph Search will scan the kind of words they've used to describe the place (favorable or unfavorable), but for now the Like is the biggest indicator that you should check this place out.



But this isn't just food! If you're looking for music, the recent selections of your pals will inform the results. For any occasion, the answer doesn't lie with some invisible algorithm pointed out toward the web void, but at the people you know, who are doing or have done the thing you're talking about. Your friends' experiences will give you answers to what you're wondering. At least that's the idea. And if it works, we'll have a reason to skip opening a new tab headed to Google.com—an enormous victory for Facebook, and a profound change in how we all use the Internet every single day.



So how does Graph Search work?


Graph Search (currently in beta, rolling out "slowly") is a live, constantly updating list of results, triggered from a nice thick search box at the top left of the page. It changes as you type, a la Google's autocomplete queries. Anything that can't be found inside Facebook's social storehouse will be outsourced to Bing.



As you start typing, say, "photos of my friends," results will pop up. If you add "taken in 2008," you'll get those photos.



Searches are built using simple, natural language searches. "Friends who like Star Wars and Harry Potter." "What music do my friends like?" Even more complicated questions, like "People named Brian who went to Princeton and like Star Wars." Or hey, even "Friends of friends who are single and like Game of Thrones." Boom—time to start flirting. Or poking. Sadly, information from titan apps like Instagram and Spotify aren't included—and when you're searching for music, that hole is particularly large. But remember: this thing's in beta.



Graph Search also completely geographically aware, so if you're a college sophomore looking to branch out, you can see if you have any mutual friends at a nearby school who share some hobbies with you. Instant results, with faces to put to names—but this action is only as good as the extent to which your crew uses Facebook instead of Foursquare.



Search is also deeply graphical—and looks like the easiest way to navigate Facebook photos we've ever had. "Photos of my friends." "Photos of my friends in Tokyo." "Photos I've liked"—yep, you'll be able to instantly pull up all the photos you've given the thumbs up to for the entirety of your time on the social network. It's revelatory, and wonderfully nostalgic.



Graph Search seeks answers incredibly fast, and allows for the kind of spastic hopping around that's become natural on Facebook. Every piece of data you share on Facebook, now searchable, will be privacy aware—meaning it's only available to the friends you want it to be available to, not the web. You won't be dumped into some Internet database. If you want to filter parts of your life out of Graph Search, you can do that with the newly-expanded privacy controls Facebook rolled out last month.

Facebook is even going to prompt you to review everything you've shared before Graph Search launches, meaning you'll be able to sweep undesirable photos (or interests—you liked Two and A Half Men?) under the query rug. And Zuckerberg assures us: nothing you weren't sharing before will be newly shared through Graph Search. But that doesn't mean it won't be a hell of a lot easier to find.



Graph Search isn't done. You can't search all of the bazillion posts you and your friends have written, it's not available on mobile, and there are still enormous parts of Facebook that haven't been mapped yet. But that'll come—as will ads in this thing, of course.

It's also got a pretty large authority problem. Unless your friends are pouring opinion and activity into Facebook, searching can feel hollow. And until Facebook starts incentivizing that kind of annotation—or making it uncomfortable not to—search will continue to feel kind of vacant at times. So we're going to have to pick between two compromises: a superflux of data from Google, much of it authoritative, but innumerable, or the weaker words of our friends.

It's not hard to imagine where this search points: every app, every service, every sentence you've ever connected to Facebook, instantly rerouted into your eyeballs. This is just the beginning, but even the beginning is sort of overwhelming.
 
That is way too in depth, man.
 
It's pretty much only for those who post everything on Facebook.
 
To me, it just seems like something you'd expect Facebook to have done years ago.

Another article...

http://lifehacker.com/5976258/facebooks-new-search-doesnt-change-anything-except-on-facebook

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Jan 15, 2013 3:30 PM
Facebook’s New Search Doesn’t Change Anything, Except On Facebook

Whitson Gordon

There's no doubt that Facebook's new Graph Search feature is cool. It's the advanced Facebook search we've always wanted. But is it going to change the way you search for things on the internet? Probably not—it'll just change how you search on Facebook.

Facebook Graph Search allows you to find, using natural language, just about anything that Facebook's database of people can hold, and narrow results down by specific categories like music, places, photos, video games, and more. It's pretty similar to the "advanced search" Facebook had in the old days, but even better at filtering people by their interests and likes (not to mention easier to use).

TechCrunch said it's going to "replace a major chunk of Google." The Wall Street Journal called it a "direct competitor" to Google. CNN reports that Yelp's stock is down following the announcement. We, on the other hand, don't think any of this is really related.

Don't get me wrong: Facebook's new search looks very cool, and it's definitely a useful feature for a number of things. But is it going to replace Google, or be the first site someone goes to when they want to search for a new restaurant or band? That seems unlikely. Here's why.

What Facebook Graph Search Does

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Graph Search finally takes all that information you and your friends have put on Facebook, and makes it easily searchable. In fact, it's a wonder this feature's been missing for so long. You can search for people who listen to the same bands as you, play the same video games, or like the same food. This is not only great for the ever-enjoyable Facebook stalking session, but great for planning stuff with your friends. For example, you could:
  • Find friends in your town who like Mumford & Sons, so you can a trip with them to the upcoming Mumford & Sons concert in said town.
  • Find friends who play Call of Duty, so you can play it with them online.
  • Find friends in your town that like sushi, and thus might be amenable to going out for sushi.
See a pattern? It's useful for finding stuff as it relates to your friends, which is what you're on Facebook for in the first place. This really is awesome—previously you had to go around asking people who played Call of Duty, or who liked sushi. That's now a thing of the past; with Graph Search you can gather together similarly-minded people with just a keystroke. It's social networking at its finest.

What Facebook Graph Search Doesn't Do



Facebook Graph Search is an awesome "friend search tool," but people seem to be touting it as an alternative to an actual search engine. That doesn't seem to make a lot of sense. Using the above examples, people seem to think that you can use Facebook Graph Search to:

  • Search Facebook for other bands like Mumford & Sons, based on what your friends like, instead of using Pandora or Spotify.
  • Search for good video games to play, instead of searching Steam or Amazon or Kotaku for reviews.
  • Search for a good sushi restaurant, based on where your friends have checked in, instead of searching highly-rated sushi restaurants on Yelp.
Sure, a little of this here and there could be handy. If you have one or two foodie friends that you trust, seeing if they've been to a particular restaurant could give you a better idea of whether it's good. But it isn't going to replace Yelp, which has massive amounts of detailed reviews from people that aren't limited to your Facebook friends. Why search only the restaurants your friends have been to, rather than all the restaurants on Yelp, reviewed by masses of people? Why search just the bands those old college buddies listed as Likes, rather than all the bands in Spotify or Pandora's database that match your tastes?

It All Hinges On What People Actually "Like"

This leads us to the last weakness of this assumption: All of this only works if your friends constantly like, post about, and check into everything they enjoy on Facebook. And, as much as Facebook would like you to believe this is true, it isn't—at least for most of your friends. People don't go on Facebook to list every one of their favorite bands, or give detailed reviews for restaurants. They may one day, but for now, Yelp and Pandora are tailored specifically to those things, and have much more detailed data than Facebook does, so they aren't going anywhere when it comes to finding that one thing.

The bottom line: This is an awesome new feature for Facebook, not an awesome new feature for the internet. For anything not related to Facebook or your Facebook friends, you'll still be better off going to Google, or Yelp, or Amazon—and no one will give a second thought to doing so.
 
side note, i think facebook is down?
 
I highly doubt Facebook will replace Google as the main search engine. Just about everyone on the internet has used Google at one time or another, but the same can't be about Facebook. I know I won't be using the Facebook's new search engine since Google is just so easy and fast to use.
 
I got rid of Facebook about 2 months ago. I feel liberated. Although now I don't know any of my friends birthdays :doh:
 
I've lost 3 albums of over 300 photos on facebook, it's starting to piss me off.
 
Another article...

http://gizmodo.com/5989228/facebooks-new-news-feed-the-biggest-change-in-years-updating-live

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Mar 7, 2013 1:12 PM
Facebook’s New News Feed: The Biggest Change In Years

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Sam Biddle

The last time Zuck overhauled the website you check all day every day was two years ago. Two! You've probably changed a decent amount since then, but Facebook hasn't in a way that's done anything but make us cringe—until today. Enter the clutter killer. Here's how you'll be stalking the universe now.

The News Feed has been the way we suck information from our friends, frenemies, exes, and coworkers, since 2006. It's mutated since then—complicating and simplifying itself—as Facebook experiments with better ways to show you new statuses, photos, and links. Today's renovation is no different: another way of funneling social info into your brain. But unlike past attempts, it's bigger (truly, wider), brighter, and overall more eye-strangling. It's full of news. It's full of sections. It's like, according to Zuck, "a newspaper." Those old things.



It's visual progress, for sure—Facebook has done great work sweeping away a lot of what developers call "chrome" (buttons, scrollbars, navigational detritus). What's left is the stuff you ostensibly care about. And that stuff looks swell, making the web version of Facebook match the mobile version almost perfectly—all of the clarity and none of the cramp, it appears. All the crap and button mulch that's festered across the sides of Facebook is now swept into one clean sidebar, just like your smartphone app.

Take photo albums—they'll be bigger, now, with more thumbnails giving you an easier at-a-glance sense of what your friends actually did, and where.



When a friend (or local business, ahem) pops up on your new feed, you'll get more information about them, too, pulling over their entire Timeline badge, with all its horizontal lushness.

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Plus their location, of course—if they chose to share it.

The new News Feed realizes it's become filled with high-res photos, videos, music, apps—a million things that make plain on text statuses look quaint. And so it adapts, a la Timeline, with a new look that's supposed to fill up your screen and aim straight at dazzling your eyes. It's the same old dumb photos, sure, but they're given a premium cosmetic treatment.



A shared link like the one up top—be it a Gizmodo post or a local obit—will spring onto the page with a bigger preview than we've ever had before, and consolidated comments from all the rest of your friends who've shared it too. This cuts way back on sharing sprawl, and hell, just looks pleasant. This same consolidation will start to think for you, too—the stories (and people) you've commented on and shared dirt about before will give Facebook juice to suggest stories to you, right in the feed. This means Facebook will talk directly to you via News Feed, as opposed to it being purely a river of friend blurbs and advertisements. We'll have to see just how smart (and intrusive) these friendly reminders are.



This sounds like a lot. It is a lot. And so Facebook is splitting up the feed into subcategories—Music, Photos, Games, Friends—so that you're not suffocated with information. Or at least suffocated at a slower, more comfortable rate.



Music, for instance, will give you blips about what songs your pals are listening to on Spotify, along with news from the artists you follow. Looking good, JT, but I'm hoping for a Suit & Tie Remix. And if you want news that's just from people you don't know—Oprah, The-Dream, Pepsi, whatever—you can filter that all into its own silo, too. This screams Twitter, only burst way out of the 140-character fence.



Of course, that's not why we go to Facebook, unless we're advertising drones. We go for our friends. Or a small subset of them. So there's a Close Friends feed, too, which eschews all the celebs and local businesses, and just brings in your roommate and boyfriend, et. al. Which is nice! But this is going to mean a lot more clicking, rather than just having everything that everyone does all the time thrown into one big bin.

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It begins rolling out today—slowly, like everything Facebook debuts. So keep refreshing, and start taking photos worth seeing large.
 
I deleted my facebook account several years ago, never regretted it.
 
Ever get the feeling that 95% of your so-called Facebook friends wouldn't be there for you if you needed help or something happened? I think I need a serious purge. Yes, there's a lot of fair-weather "friends" and a lot of "how the hell do I know you again?" passing acquaintances. But the ones that hurt are the ones you reach out to or show support towards, but they don't return it when you need help. It's hard not to take that personally.
 
Ever get the feeling that 95% of your so-called Facebook friends wouldn't be there for you if you needed help or something happened? I think I need a serious purge. Yes, there's a lot of fair-weather "friends" and a lot of "how the hell do I know you again?" passing acquaintances. But the ones that hurt are the ones you reach out to or show support towards, but they don't return it when you need help. It's hard not to take that personally.
I guess this feeling a lot whenever I like something from someone that I haven't spoken to or seen in years. Heck, some people are people that I knew in high school that I never even had a conversation with and only knew because we hung out with he same crowd. Even now, I'm seeing this again with college friends since I just graduated last year, and how its been "out of sight, out of mind" with most of them.

Overall, I'd say that the 95% that you mention are in fact nothing more than acquaintances, as opposed to true friends.But the reason why I haven't really deleted anyone, or my own account permanently, is because I realize that Facebook is really just a networking site, and since I'm an artist looking for work, I keep people around just so they could see what I'm doing in case they're ever interested in something. I took it personally at first when I would post things and no one would even like or reply to it, but now it is what it is and if I ever need something from someone, I just send them a PM because I don't want all of my business out there either.
 
I'm anti-FB for privacy reasons, but of late I have really been debating about creating an account. I like the FB games that are available, but I am not enamored of the loss of privacy that can be created. I have heard many horror stories about FB and I'd like to hear your horror stories....

I don't want to join, but I need to hear more fearful stories from others, so I can be sure of my decision.


Thank You!!
 
What, exactly, is the nature of these "horror stories?" I mean, it seems pretty straightforward to me: don't put your SSN in your profile and don't post pics of yourself butt-chugging out of a beer-bong.

Fun-fact: I learned one of those lessons from personal experience.
 
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