The FACEBOOK Thread - Part 2

[charl_huntress]

It entirely depends on the friends you add to your Facebook. I'm friends with a bunch of nerds and geeks and we share articles with each other. Political and scientific stuff. I think of it as my "relevant current events" filter. Everyone's civil, only a few are passive aggressive and none of them are passive aggressive to each other. The last one I had like that, she blocked me because she was ridiculously close-minded and refused to accept an apology.

Privacy settings can be important, depending on your audience, like family vs friends vs work. Pay attention to those, but also try not to post anything you'd regret for getting out online, because anyone can take a screenshot. Good rule for general internet use, though.

I really worry about this. I recently joined a site for business purposes and then I was flooded with spam. I worry FB might cause another more detrimental deluge.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Oh, and since you mention spam - I have never gotten a spam e-mail from Facebook. Unless, of course, I set it in my settings for Facebook to contact me about certain things.

Seriously, your Facebook experience is entirely what you make of it.

You can include whatever information that you want, or hold back any information that you don't want out there. Any information you do include can be made private. You specify who can and can't see it. To the person, if you want to get that specific. You can make your profile private so that only your friends can see it. You can choose which friends have their posts pop up on your news feed, and hide others. You can choose which friends see your posts, and who can't.

Your Facebook experience is entirely up to you. There are some people that overshare. There are some people that share nothing. And of course, there are people who are somewhere in between.

If you don't want to join Facebook, then you don't want to join Facebook, and that's your choice. But I think the reasoning you're giving is flawed reasoning, because the reasoning you're giving won't be an issue unless you make it an issue.

 

[MrMaooz]

Playing games on Facebook?

 

[charl_huntress]

You need an e-mail address, and your name. Everything else is pretty much optional, I.E.: where you live, where you're from, phone #, address, where you work, your relationship status and who you're with, family members.

But all of that is 100% optional, and you don't have to include any of that information if you don't want to. And any of that information that you DO include, you can make any or all of it private if you so choose.

Seriously, any information that's revealed to or through Facebook is entirely up to you. The only thing you actually need to sign up is an e-mail address.

Oh, and since you mention spam - I have never gotten a spam e-mail from Facebook. Unless, of course, I set it in my settings for Facebook to contact me about certain things.

Seriously, your Facebook experience is entirely what you make of it.

You can include whatever information that you want, or hold back any information that you don't want out there. Any information you do include can be made private. You specify who can and can't see it. To the person, if you want to get that specific. You can make your profile private so that only your friends can see it. You can choose which friends have their posts pop up on your news feed, and hide others. You can choose which friends see your posts, and who can't.

Your Facebook experience is entirely up to you. There are some people that overshare. There are some people that share nothing. And of course, there are people who are somewhere in between.

If you don't want to join Facebook, then you don't want to join Facebook, and that's your choice. But I think the reasoning you're giving is flawed reasoning, because the reasoning you're giving won't be an issue unless you make it an issue.

Nell and others thank you. I do worry about joining these sites, but you guys provided a lot of good info. I have to think about this more...

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

Facebook is not just a means of communication, lol.

Facebook and it's associated cookies, along with Google, pretty much keep a record of everything you do online, and your shopping habits. Any website that is offering 'free' anything. Whether its free videos, free uploads, free 'communication' (WhatsApp, FooTalk, Snapchat, Viber, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, etc.) , free downloads, free online shopping (ie. Paypal, Amazon, etc), and even I wouldn't be surprised free online banking, if your Bank or Credit Card company, is going to be analyzing your shopping, browsing, eating, and/or internet use.

Since Facebook and other forms of social media proves many people are narcissists and will easily give away their privacy for the chance at popularity and peer approval, we're making advertisers, stalkers, investigators, and big brother's life very easy. If you want to keep your personal life and activities private, good luck living in this modern age.

As long as you aware and accept that this is the new status quo, you can use Facebook for 'communication' purposes, lol.

 

[SuperFerret]

Is Charl_Huntress your real name? If not, then congratulations, you are able to make up enough stuff to have a Facebook page.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Facebook is not just a means of communication, lol.

Facebook and it's associated cookies, along with Google, pretty much keep a record of everything you do online, and your shopping habits. Any website that is offering 'free' anything. Whether its free videos, free uploads, free 'communication' (WhatsApp, FooTalk, Snapchat, Viber, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, etc.) , free downloads, free online shopping (ie. Paypal, Amazon, etc), and even I wouldn't be surprised free online banking, if your Bank or Credit Card company, is going to be analyzing your shopping, browsing, eating, and/or internet use.

Since Facebook and other forms of social media proves many people are narcissists and will easily give away their privacy for the chance at popularity and peer approval, we're making advertisers, stalkers, investigators, and big brother's life very easy. If you want to keep your personal life and activities private, good luck living in this modern age.

As long as you aware and accept that this is the new status quo, you can use Facebook for 'communication' purposes, lol.

Everything you just described is self inflicted mixed with paranoia, as evidenced by the part I bolded.

The worst you might get is some damn ads in your timeline. I'm an absolute Facebook ****e that's probably an over sharer, and yet my bank account still hasn't been hacked, my identity hasn't been stolen, and the NSA hasn't come knocking on my door.

 

[SuperFerret]

Oh, and social networking and the internet in general has improved social interactions, as you are no longer bound by geographical proximity. If the people around you are ******, and you live in one of those places not important enough to warrant a lot of people, social networking is better than so-called "real" interactions.


EDIT: As one of Nell's Facebook friends, I'll concur that he's an over-sharer.

 

[Persistence]

Government admits Facebook is part of the NSA PRISM surveillance program (along with Apple, Microsoft, Google) for data collection on citizens.

http://www.theweek.co.uk/us/prism-leak/53475/white-house-admits-it-has-access-facebook-google

http://www.nytimes.com/2013/06/08/t...urveillance-efforts.html?pagewanted=all&_r=1&

Basically don't place any information about yourself that you don't want your eavesdropping government to know about you.

However, do you have to be careful about logging in and out of your browser properly and clearing your history. Facebook tries to track other things you search and do OUTSIDE of facebook and bring that information into its own database that personalizes ads for you.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/tech/2014/06/12/facebook-ads-targeting/10365027/

It's true you don't have to put "that much information" on facebook...but facebook is always creating programs and apps inside that tries to make friends pester each other to share even more information:

http://www.cnn.com/2014/05/20/tech/social-media/facebook-ask-relationship-status/

Facebook's value is in providing data for corporations to make ads for you. Everything you do on facebook can be almost be linked to a decision to present a personalized advertisement for you. You click on button that says you like Amazon.com or the Scandal TV show or World Cup or J Los music....that record is saved somewhere (maybe even in your profile)..and companies will use those likes to send you ads for similar products. It may even share this information with others (Your friend BOB LIKES Marvel Entertainment!)

I don't have much stock on privacy settings....Facebook has been known to violate privacy laws and own privacy settings "accidentally"...look at the connections is has with the government and corporations..its a public corporation itself...you think its going to respect your privacy? Really?

http://www.wired.com/2009/12/facebook-ftc-complaint/
http://www.buzzfeed.com/jwherrman/w...-response-to-consumers-do-not-track-requests/

http://techcrunch.com/2010/10/07/conspiracies-privacy-spam-and-nambla-facebook-groups-are-fun/
Facebook once toyed with option allows your friends to invite you to random groups WITHOUT YOUR PERMISSION. See article of a critic who invited his friend Mark Zuckerberg to NAMBLA. I think they dropped this feature, but you can see what type of thinking goes in Facebook headquarters of privacy erosion and groupthink advertisement.

Finally, employers have been trying search data on job applicants online (in some unusual circumstances asking for facebook passwords upfront - this has never happened to me though). Hiring managers are interested in your social life...if you heavily use drugs, alcohol, illicit activities...that could cost you a job if share that information.

http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/can-potential-employers-check-your-facebook-page.html

With regard to actual horror stories, people have been fired for what they post on facebook.

http://www.businessinsider.com/facebook-fired-2011-5?op=1

Facebook has been investing in facial recognition software to link users to pictures add online

http://money.cnn.com/2014/04/04/technology/innovation/facebook-facial-recognition/

To be fair..I have a facebook account...I once placed it on hiatus for about 2 years but went back on to keep in touch with few friends and family members. Nonetheless, I only have like 50 friends..and I don't post many pictures. You have to also be careful that friends don't post embarrassing stuff about you on facebook and try link it to your profile (although I think you have accept it to be on your timeline) I don't post controversial stuff or political posts. I do list my religious and political views but that's pretty much it.


If you've made it this long without profile,...I'd encourage you to continue to do so..
If you choose to make one...in order to play one game
then be careful what you add...assume anything you add can be seen by ANYONE in the world...because that's the world we're moving towards...one without any privacy.

 

[Persistence]

Everything you just described is self inflicted mixed with paranoia, as evidenced by the part I bolded.

The worst you might get is some damn ads in your timeline. I'm an absolute Facebook ****e that's probably an over sharer, and yet my bank account still hasn't been hacked, my identity hasn't been stolen, and the NSA hasn't come knocking on my door.

Why would the NSA need to knock on your door? They already have access to your facebook. If they thought you were doing something overtly troublesome to the government, they'd let the FBI or IRS handle it discreetly.

 

[SuperFerret]

The government has a whole file on me, and not a bit of it is useful information.

 

[charl_huntress]

Facebook is not just a means of communication, lol.

Facebook and it's associated cookies, along with Google, pretty much keep a record of everything you do online, and your shopping habits. Any website that is offering 'free' anything. Whether its free videos, free uploads, free 'communication' (WhatsApp, FooTalk, Snapchat, Viber, Facebook, Twitter, Youtube, etc.) , free downloads, free online shopping (ie. Paypal, Amazon, etc), and even I wouldn't be surprised free online banking, if your Bank or Credit Card company, is going to be analyzing your shopping, browsing, eating, and/or internet use.

Since Facebook and other forms of social media proves many people are narcissists and will easily give away their privacy for the chance at popularity and peer approval, we're making advertisers, stalkers, investigators, and big brother's life very easy. If you want to keep your personal life and activities private, good luck living in this modern age.

As long as you aware and accept that this is the new status quo, you can use Facebook for 'communication' purposes, lol.

Is Charl_Huntress your real name? If not, then congratulations, you are able to make up enough stuff to have a Facebook page.

Oh, and social networking and the internet in general has improved social interactions, as you are no longer bound by geographical proximity. If the people around you are ******, and you live in one of those places not important enough to warrant a lot of people, social networking is better than so-called "real" interactions.


EDIT: As one of Nell's Facebook friends, I'll concur that he's an over-sharer.

I know for some this new form of interaction is the way things are and I am not complaining about times changing. I guess for me I worry I may not be able to control all the access these new technologies provide. I have a lot of devices and they "require" access to things like my GPS, contacts, payment options, etc. How can you prevent over sharing when now and days so much sharing is required?

 

[SuperFerret]

The easiest way to do that is to remember that you are entirely unimportant and nobody cares.

 

[charl_huntress]

The easiest way to do that is to remember that you are entirely unimportant and nobody cares.

Your mom told you that! Good advice.

 

[Hellion]

Your mom told you that! Good advice.

My mom too LOL. I don't even know why I have a FB or Twitter…I check them about once a week and usually after.

I'd say…it's no big deal…it depends on what you share and who you add…basically what everyone else already said.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Why would the NSA need to knock on your door? They already have access to your facebook. If they thought you were doing something overtly troublesome to the government, they'd let the FBI or IRS handle it discreetly.

Well the FBI nor the IRS have come knocking discreetly on my door either.

 

[Nell2ThaIzzay]

Oh, and social networking and the internet in general has improved social interactions, as you are no longer bound by geographical proximity. If the people around you are ******, and you live in one of those places not important enough to warrant a lot of people, social networking is better than so-called "real" interactions.


EDIT: As one of Nell's Facebook friends, I'll concur that he's an over-sharer.

Oh you don't even know the half.

 

[charl_huntress]

I don't see a reason for it except for game rewards, and that's not enough of reason for me. I do want those game rewards though.

 

[SuperFerret]

You could also join the Hype Facebook group. We're completely and utterly mean to each other.

 

[E-Man]

You could also join the Hype Facebook group. We're completely and utterly mean to each other.

We're also much more civilized and adult too in the process. It's a well balanced circle of life.

 

[charl_huntress]

Sounds like it.

 

[Anita18]

The easiest way to do that is to remember that you are entirely unimportant and nobody cares.

That's what I learned on my own in middle school and my life has been wonderfully anxiety-free since then.

But yeah, websites are tracking you. If you carry a phone, bet that it's tracking you too. You cannot escape it unless you go off the grid, and that's a huge red flag for the government who will be tracking you via satellite and/or drone.

There's nothing much for a regular citizen to fear as long as you are smart and don't post about any illegal activities. I don't agree with what the NSA does on principle, but I'm really very boring and they wouldn't be interested in me personally. Or you, unless you're secretly Walter White.

 

[charl_huntress]

Here's the things folks... I'm not worried about the government tracking me. I was in military. They already have a way to track me. My worry is the access FB provides. Whenever my i phone updates it always ask for what I feel is an extreme amount of access to my personal life. This access seems limitless "unless" you have your privacy settings right. Not to mention, those settings are subject to change via the TOS.

 

[E-Man]

Here's the things folks... I'm not worried about the government tracking me. I was in military. They already have a way to track me. My worry is the access FB provides. Whenever my i phone updates it always ask for what I feel is an extreme amount of access to my personal life. This access seems limitless "unless" you have your privacy settings right. Not to mention, those settings are subject to change via the TOS.

Remember what Mr. Ferrett said. You aren't too important in the grand scheme of things, and they can't be any worse than the government tracking you. The government could actually do something about you talking **** about The Man online, whereas these companies would just be like, "Oh, Charl likes dat jello pudding. Now we know!"

 

[charl_huntress]

This notion your personal life and/or the information of your life is unimportant in the scheme of things is a new one for me. I don't think I can get down with that.

Edit:

Seriously though, I really want to hear some FB horror stories. I know they're out there.