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The Fantastic 4: First Spoilers

I dont think we needed to see Franklin do anything before he saves Sue. That was the payoff to show how powerful he was. Seeing him do anything before that would have undermined that moment, and the movie didn't need it. What we needed to know was Galactus wanted him, and we saw how powerful Galactus was. So that tells us how important he is by association.
 
One thing i was slightly underwhelmed by: the “ITS CLOBBERIN TIME” moment. That moment felt like it could have hit harder and been more crowd pleasing. That should have been the big “F YEAH!” Crowd cheering moment but i dont think Eban Moss totally sold it and the moment wasnt satisfying enough.
 
I thought the switcheroo plan was dumb. I thought they would have Franklin there and at the last minute have Sue make Johnny invisible, get the baby and teleprot Galactus away. What they actually did was stupid an of course that didnt work
 
One thing i was slightly underwhelmed by: the “ITS CLOBBERIN TIME” moment. That moment felt like it could have hit harder and been more crowd pleasing. That should have been the big “F YEAH!” Crowd cheering moment but i dont think Eban Moss totally sold it and the moment wasnt satisfying enough.
My theater went nuts for that moment but to be fair, it was the IMAX Thursday night fan event screening so there was probably some bias there. Personally I thought Ebon delivered it great and I'm also glad that they didn't turn it into another "Avengers Assemble" type of line where they saved it for a future Ben appearance after teasing it here.
 
Some of the shots in this film are just stuck in my head now and were just beautiful to look at.

When Johnny chases and catches up with the Surfer and she peeks over the side of the board to look at him and the world is behind them, its like an ET moment, just a stunning shot.

The shot of Galactus' shadow over the city was incredible as well, the sheer scale of him was terrifying, my jaw was on the floor more in this than most MCU movies.
 
So I thought it was explained pretty well why Galactus wanted the baby.

More importantly, it had thematic purpose. It fit into the themes of the uncertainty of parenthood and the inability to completely control the path of your children. The theme generally (will we be good parents) was turned into a metaphor via cosmic radiation. Galactus brought to the surface the fears they were having prior to childbirth. But Reed, who wants to control everything, took longer to let go and let his kid develop however the kid develops. On a thematic level, I thought it worked well. Franklin was an essential part of the themes of the movie and not just Baby McGuffin.
The fact that I wasn't able to suspend my disbelief was really bothering me. So, I went back for a second viewing, now fully aware of where this movie was heading. Bit of a risk there. Figured I'd either quit halfway through or absolutely fall in love with it.

Happy to say that I really enjoyed it the second time around. There's a certain charm there that sets it apart from the rest of the MCU. Really looking forward to the next adventures with these characters.
 
One thing i was slightly underwhelmed by: the “ITS CLOBBERIN TIME” moment. That moment felt like it could have hit harder and been more crowd pleasing. That should have been the big “F YEAH!” Crowd cheering moment but i dont think Eban Moss totally sold it and the moment wasnt satisfying enough.

This touches on the thing that was most disappointing to me (and the film was great, so I don’t want to overstate it).

I felt like the pacing was off. There were a lot of great moments, but they weren’t set up in way that allowed us to anticipate and enjoy those moments, and then afterwards we were on to the next thing without time to pause and appreciate what just happened.

Overall it made everything feel rushed with no time to be affected by the emotional highs and lows. A lot has been made about the relatively short run-time, but I don’t think we needed more content - we just needed a little more time with what was happening to process it and appreciate it.
 
One thing i was slightly underwhelmed by: the “ITS CLOBBERIN TIME” moment. That moment felt like it could have hit harder and been more crowd pleasing. That should have been the big “F YEAH!” Crowd cheering moment but i dont think Eban Moss totally sold it and the moment wasnt satisfying enough.
The audience that I was with in my 1st viewing loved it.

But in my observation, Ben didn't even like that line and he was like forced to say it because of Johnny.
 
My audience didnt really respond to the line so maybe that contributed to the flaccid feeling i had to it, it just felt like it could have been a bigger moment.
 
Some of the shots in this film are just stuck in my head now and were just beautiful to look at.
I feel like a lot of the shot's of Galactus entering the solar system were tributes to other shots, but I wasn't confident. Both the ship going over the moon and passing Mars felt familiar. The former probably Independence Day, the later maybe TNG (Best of Both Worlds), but I wasn't confident.
 
So if Shalla-Bal and Galactus were teleported to the other side of who-knows-where, is Galactus’ ship just hovering in orbit over their Earth?
I can easily see Reed studying it over the 4 year gap between First Steps and Doomsday
 
Saw the movie yesterday and found it underwhelming. The first 20 minutes or so seemed like it dragged forever and was dozing off.

They nailed the visuals for The Thing, Galactus and liked the Alex Ross vibe of The Human Torch. Kirby killed as Susan Storm and was my favorite performance.

I really enjoyed the 2nd act sequence when they are up in the space visually but didn't really connect with or felt the urgency they were going for with Sue giving birth. Why was she up in space anyway if she was close to giving birth? Felt like bad parenting & unnecessary - unless I missed something.

Galactus had an imposing presence specially when in space & his voice was menacing but felt he was nerfed big time and was taken down pretty easily; granted Sue is strong but even with everyone attacking him Galactus didn't really put up a fight.

Pedro Pascal felt miscast as Reed & didn't really do anything interesting with his powers - I felt Mike Teller use of powers was more interesting. I did like his performance in the scene with Vanessa Kirby when discussing the option of giving up Franklin.

Visuals aside, I liked the potrayal of the Silver Surfer & her backstory.

Its hard to compare with the other F4 movies for at the moment because the 2nd act was good and Galactus visually was great but the rest fell flat and don't see myself rewatching it as much as, say, Thunderbolts or Superman.

Glad people enjoyed the movie but it just didn't do it for me. The idea of the F4 without a proper Doom does irk me as well.
 
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When I saw the movie for the first time, the person in front of me was waiting for Yelena to show up because he was chanting her name.

When Earth 828 wasn't destroyed, I knew there isn't going to be a portal jump to Earth 616.
 
The visuals were easily the best part of the movie and the rest of everything was just...fine. The entire sequence with the first confrontation with Galactus was great, and it almost seems like the premise of the movie was built around that set piece. After that things start to rapidly fall apart. I'm struggling to look past Reed's cockamamie plan to fool Galactus.
 
I'm pretty sure he said Franklin was powerful enough to take Galactus's hunger, not that he would quench it. As in Galactus wants to pass on the burden/role of being Galactus to someone else, and Franklin's the only one powerful enough to handle it.
Yeah, I think it's lightly informed by a storyline involving both characters that takes place during Jon Hickman's Fantastic Four run and Mark Waid's History of the Marvel Universe limited series: At the end of the Eighth Cosmos (the current designation for the Marvel multiverse), Galactus's energies merge with the adult Franklin Richards, who becomes the new Galactus and one of the first major beings of the Ninth Cosmos (just as Galan of Taa had previously merged with the Sentience of the Universe at the end of the Sixth Cosmos).

While the movie doesn't make clear why Galactus wants Franklin now, one might assume that he's somehow able to transfer his role—and dependency on the life energy of entire planets to sustain himself—to the boy much sooner (billions of years sooner, in fact!) than his comic book counterpart does.
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