The Flash The Flash, Season 1, Episode 8 "Flash vs. Arrow"

[zilla92]

I thought he said Batman at first too then I rewound it and heard that man. Would have been cool as hell if he did say Batman.

 

[Asteroid-Man]

Is there a promo up for episode 9?

 

[Astro13Zombie]

Pretty fun episode.
Actually enjoyed watching something arrow related, which is pretty surprising.heh

Can't wait till tomorrow.

Also
Add me to the list of people that need to get their ears checked...
"batman"

 

[Human Torch]

I liked the exchange with Iris where she asks for his real name and he says "You mean,like Ralph?" They ain't too proud to pull from the classics yet again.

The line with the Captain about "My boyfriend won't let me eat what I want at home" came across very funny to me,though I doubt it was intentional.

Firestorm cameo was pretty cool.I wonder how he'll fit in in the future.Ollie & Barry walking "arm in arm" after the fight was just a great moment. I couldn't help but think "I never thought I'd see a Green Arrow tv show,let alone another Flash tv show- and here they are together!"

I can't wait to see Ollie & Barry sit down with The Atom,Firestorm,Green Lantern and whoever else joins their "league" in the future.

 

[Astro13Zombie]

I hope that really was the last of the Iris/Flash secret meetings.

 

[Human Torch]

I wouldn't get my hopes up. CW leading actresses have "Love Interest" tattooed on their forehead for the duration of the show and they never go quietly into that good night.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

Speaking of Iris, I like her reaction to Barry being friends with Oliver Queen.

 

[combocaz]

Badass episode. That bit at the end Firestorm whoaaar!!!

 

[Tv's Phil]

Love it when the shows get to kind of let go of the overall arc just a little and have fun with the characters.
That's the promise of these and any potential future crossover.

My only complaint would be I kinda wish they had time to show them apprehending Prism/Rainbow Raider but I can understand if they couldn't fit it in and I can extrapolate to it being a fairly easy collar. With the combination of Star Labs, Felicity, Oliver and Barry, a solo Rogue inexperienced with vigilantes would be no match. Hence the future Rogue team-ups.

 

[Eni]

Nice episode, really liked the Barry and Olli dynamic. Great fight, awesome effects and I actually liked that he gave Barry some tips how to be a better hero (even though, if I were Barry, I would have smashed that dude into a wall for shooting arrors into my back, I mean, come on t: ). Olli had a point, though, with what he was saying and I appreciated that.

And Olli is totally the BW/Batman of this world. I would LOVE to see him cross paths with Bruce maybe in a later season should they ever decide to allows a cameo with the actual Batman. Either they would love or hate each other.

I am curious from where this is with Eddie going, he really doesn't seem to like the Flash, I kinda see future RF rear his little head. And I love that Director Signs mentioned his boyfriend, I am curious whether it actually is Hartley or not (probably not, though). I also was briefly convinced that Barry made Signs to his life-long enemy by stealing his lunch when I saw him and Eddie discuss the "Flash-Menace" problem in his office again.

I can't exactly pinpoint the reason why, but I didn't really care for Iris in this episode and, even though I am a fan of the Barry/Iris paring in the comics, I have to say that I start to wish that those both won't get together anytime soon. How can she be THAT damn obvious to Barry's feeling? I mean, that guy is making the worst sad-face next to her while she is ogling another man and she seems totally obvious to it? I mean, I am pretty sure I would pick up on such a mood of a friend, even if I see them as nothing more than a sibling. Curious whether his actual love-interest for now really will be Linda Park.

All in all, very nice episode and I am looking forward to the second part!

 

[Wise]

Great episode. Loved the Zoom eyes.

 

[haephestus]

Good episode.

I hope the Flash/Iris romance will be put to one side for a while now. It was bad enough seeing her go weak at the knees for Oliver Queen without worrying about her also wanting to romance both the Flash and Eddie. Iris sure is a fickle lady!

I completely missed how Prism escaped after Arrow initial tied him up with rope. The Flash was still there. Why didn't he take Prism straight to STAR labs? Even if the Flash didn't nab Prism, I'm not sure why one of the cops, including Joe, didn't grab him and haul him to jail.

I also missed why the storage locker guy told the police everything except Prism's real name. Why did it take Arrow putting an arrow is his leg for him to talk?

I'm not sure if they're seriously considering it, but I didn't like Felicity's reading of Caitlin and Barry's relationship. Surely they're not going with a Caitlin/Barry match are they? Just introduce Patty Spivot, make her awesome and let Barry play out all the romance nonsense with her instead of trying to force relationships with Caitlin and Iris. Or let Barry and Felicity date since they still have great chemistry on screen.

All the Arrow and the Flash moments were great, but it seemed extremely cruel of Oliver to shoot two arrows in Barry without really knowing how quickly Barry heals (and his superpowers don't mean that he can't feel pain). The final "battle" was also well done with a lot of nice comic book-esque moments. I do wish that we'd got to see their final team-up to find and capture Prism though. Still, the jump to Prism in the Particle Accelerator prison was pretty cool.

 

[Frodo]

Good episode.

I hope the Flash/Iris romance will be put to one side for a while now. It was bad enough seeing her go weak at the knees for Oliver Queen without worrying about her also wanting to romance both the Flash and Eddie. Iris sure is a fickle lady!

I didn't like how they wrote Iris in this episode , and I'm concerned she's gonna become unlikable and less sympathetic to the audience.

 

[Bathead]

So, did anyone else catch the "Easter Egg" (so to speak) with the bad guy's name, Roy G. Bivola?

Spoiler

It's based on the mnemonic for the colors of the light spectrum
"Red-Orange-Yellow Green Blue-Indigo-Violet" + ola.

 

[Breogan]

So, did anyone else catch the "Easter Egg" (so to speak) with the bad guy's name, Roy G. Bivola?

Spoiler

It's based on the mnemonic for the colors of the light spectrum
"Red-Orange-Yellow Green Blue-Indigo-Violet" + ola.

Yeah!
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=30223381#post30223381
http://forums.superherohype.com/showthread.php?p=30223471&highlight=#post30223471

If they want to go there, this episode seems to establish the existence of the "Emotional Spectrum"

 

[Comics]

Sorry, just watched the ep and haven't read this thread entirely;

1. Good Ep, I dislike Arrow but stuff like this might eventually bring me around.
2. I think i've finally realised the reason I dislike arrow, Too Many Studio Scenes Remind Me Of Smallville, which I grew to detest.
3. "2000Mg of Horse Tranquillizer". KETAMINE! I knew McQueen knew how to party!!
4. Future Crossover Potential(s): As I watched I came to the conclusion that they are insinuating that the big "Wells Reveal" might be another crossover event, considering he knows Arrow's identity.
5. Also, having not watched Arrow much, I presume the girl in the coffee shop at the end has had his child. I shall call him/her "Lime Dart"
6. An end to to silly Iris meet ups so we can get on with more Superhero shizz, good.
7. The whole "Barry Has A Lot To Learn" schtick was done well enough for me to forgive the massive power advantage that the flash has. He is still not using his power properly so it forgives anyone's complaints on previous episodes on this forum.
8. All in all, I think I'll stick with this show and perhaps give arrow a chance, or at least look up the best episodes. (Please reply with your fav from each season of arrow if you have time)
9. More to come but i think i'll have to let the dust settle as I just finished watching.

In short, hurray for Ketamine!!

 

[Mikelus]

So, Barry can paint a shelter in a couple of seconds, but can't handcuff a dangerous freak or knock Oliver out equally fast? Again making Barry dumb because the plot demands it, is just bad writing.

The fight was lame, instead of wasting time spinning around Ollie because it looks cool (he already did that against the weather freak in the Pilot), Barry could've take him out with a supersonic punch, seems he forgot already. The choreography and the slow motion were poorly executed, Barry hitting all those punches and Oliver's reaction to them looked cartoonish.

Imagine if they do something like this in BvS, I don't think most fans would be pleased. Despite being a tv show with a limited budget, they could've done it better. The freak of the week was, once again, a very weak character, just a plot device to force the Flash vs Arrow fight.

A fight because two characters have a real disagreement is always more interesting than fighting because one of them is just "whammied", which is just lazy writing in the comics and here.

Overall, despite its flaws, a decent episode thanks to the Barry and Oliver interactions.

 

[iSRS]

Did Wells just reference directly to Batman?!

I think he said "that man"...though I thought he said batman too.

Wait... so did he say "that man" or "Batman"? I could have sworn he said "Batman."

I'm with you, and may have been intentionally muddled, but seems the CC confirms "That Man"

All in all, tonight's episode was a very satisfying way to kick off the 2-part crossover event between the two shows, but I also liked that the crossover wasn't the only thing that the episode set up, which can sometimes happen when you have big events of this kind (where the story is all about the crossover and not about stuff that's actually going to be pertinent beyond the crossover).

This crossover felt very much like an actual comic book crossover. Where there is a fair amount of the fight/team up, but the main story is basically still all that title. So in 2 books/shows, you get 3 stories. Flash main story, Arrow main story, combined story.

 

[WBwins]

7/10 episode.
Seeing Team Flash interact with Team Arrow was the highlight of the episode.
I also like the fact that this episode was not just an event but moved the plotlines further.Like the Iris plotline,Firestorm etc.

Im one of the few who likes Iris and would like to see Barry date her.So it was herartbreaking to see their "breakup".

Flash vs Arrow was actually a let down to me.Guess im a victim of overhype?

Firestorm Looked so AWESOME.Made me believe a Ghost rider show is possible

 

[gohei_]

Awesome episode indeed, and that fight scene was pretty good!

I was suprised that no one got mad at Wells for giving up the identity of Arrow, if I was Ollie I would have been pissed.

Diggle in awe over the Flash was pretty funny t:

Did they found anything out about the boomerang, or did they forgot about it?

Oh and yeah, being the Star Wars nerd that I am I loved Cisco's comment t: and I was thinking exactly the same thing.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

So, did anyone else catch the "Easter Egg" (so to speak) with the bad guy's name, Roy G. Bivola?

Spoiler

It's based on the mnemonic for the colors of the light spectrum
"Red-Orange-Yellow Green Blue-Indigo-Violet" + ola.

Never looked at it this way.
Carey Bates made a

 

[Infinity9999x]

So, Barry can paint a shelter in a couple of seconds, but can't handcuff a dangerous freak or knock Oliver out equally fast? Again making Barry dumb because the plot demands it, is just bad writing.

The fight was lame, instead of wasting time spinning around Ollie because it looks cool (he already did that against the weather freak in the Pilot), Barry could've take him out with a supersonic punch, seems he forgot already. The choreography and the slow motion were poorly executed, Barry hitting all those punches and Oliver's reaction to them looked cartoonish.

Imagine if they do something like this in BvS, I don't think most fans would be pleased. Despite being a tv show with a limited budget, they could've done it better. The freak of the week was, once again, a very weak character, just a plot device to force the Flash vs Arrow fight.

A fight because two characters have a real disagreement is always more interesting than fighting because one of them is just "whammied", which is just lazy writing in the comics and here.

Overall, despite its flaws, a decent episode thanks to the Barry and Oliver interactions.

I've been annoyed with the "dumming down," of Barry's powers for a while too.

But honestly, that's kind of an issue with the Flash as a character. They have to dumb him down because he's nearly invincible if written to potential.

I actually didn't mind the Flash/Arrow fight. Yes, they had Barry needlessly toying with Ollie at points, but that could be chalked up to Barry wanting to show off/embarrass Oliver, and maybe subconsciously part of the real Barry holding back so he doesn't kill Ollie.

Viewed from that perspective, it's actually not bad, because any way you shake it they were going to have to dumb him down. Realistically, Ollie wouldnt be able to last 2 seconds against Barry if Barry really wanted to kill him.

 

[chamber-music]

Oliver not being a fan of Barry naming enemies was funny.

 

[Silliminite]

Decent episode, but I think the writing was weaker compared to most episodes.

What I loved: There were many funny moments, the Flash/Arrow fight was unexpectedly awesome and the Firestorm reveal in the end was brilliant.

Bring on the Brave and the Bold!

 

[Tv's Phil]

I do think there may...MAY...be something to the idea that the whammy wouldn't turn Barry into a no-holding-back killer, but rather just intensifying the things he's angry about.
So in other words, this wasn't Evil Barry. It was just angry Barry Allen. The effect would normally disable the part of the brain that makes you responsible, but since he heals, it's weaker maybe.
The point being, Barry was still Barry and wasn't going to murder Oliver no matter what, unless for some really some reason his body stopped healing.

Now, that all could be a load of crap I made up because he still dropped Oliver off the side of a building.
I'm just extrapolating from Barry's healing effecting the rage.

I may not know what I'm talking about.