The Good, The Bad, and The Official Western Thread

^Felt the same way about the film. Too bad, there was potential for a cool Western there.
Hope they don't mess up The Lone Ranger too.
 
Anyone seen "Red Sun"?

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Looks pretty cool to see a Cowboy/Samurai movie. Also Charlie Bronson was in the Magnificent Seven which was a remake of The Seven Samurai which Toshiro Mifune starred in. Even if the movies gash, might be worth picking up on amazon for cheaps me thinks.
 
Anyone seen "Red Sun"?

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Looks pretty cool to see a Cowboy/Samurai movie. Also Charlie Bronson was in the Magnificent Seven which was a remake of The Seven Samurai which Toshiro Mifune starred in. Even if the movies gash, might be worth picking up on amazon for cheaps me thinks.

It's a decent movie with some good action. The music is kinda of wonky and messes up the mood....but it's fun to watch.
 
I saw it when I was a kid on French TV. Alain Delon is also in it if I remember correctly. Just like Shalako another strange Western, this one starring Sean Connery and Brigitte Bardot, it didn't strike as being very memorable. But I can understand the curiosity of wanting to check out a western starring Bronson and Mifune.
Just got The Stalking Moon, with Gregory Peck. It's supposed to be a western/horror hybrid or something and I'm looking forward to checking it out.
 
I love "My Name is Nobody." It's a Western starring Henri Fonda and Terence Hill, and written by Sergio Leone (he also directed some scenes of the film:awesome:)
I highly recommend it to any fan of the genre.
Great Ennio Morricone score too, always a plus.
 
Just watched "Hang 'em High" for the 1st time and really liked it. Eastwood was his usual awesome self and Pat Hingle was great too. That's when he should have played Gordon, when he was much younger.
Ted Post did a fine directing job and I enjoyed seeing Bruce Dern in another cool villain part and Dennis Hopper in another crazy cameo.
Good musical score too.
 
OK, so it's just me:woot: What can I say, I love Westerns.
Watching "The Cowboys" right now. Having Slim Pickens and Bruce Dern (as the villain) in your movie is always a plus.
I like Old John Wayne too. Specially in "Big Jake" and "The Shootist."
 
I love "My Name is Nobody." It's a Western starring Henri Fonda and Terence Hill, and written by Sergio Leone (he also directed some scenes of the film:awesome:)
I highly recommend it to any fan of the genre.
Great Ennio Morricone score too, always a plus.
Great movie. I love all of the old west actors in small parts. I'm a big Terence Hill fan.
Just watched "Hang 'em High" for the 1st time and really liked it. Eastwood was his usual awesome self and Pat Hingle was great too. That's when he should have played Gordon, when he was much younger.
Ted Post did a fine directing job and I enjoyed seeing Bruce Dern in another cool villain part and Dennis Hopper in another crazy cameo.
Good musical score too.
Another good movie. Post was a good director. Bruce Dern did many small roles in westerns (TV and movies) before he hit it big.

OK, so it's just me:woot: What can I say, I love Westerns.
Watching "The Cowboys" right now. Having Slim Pickens and Bruce Dern (as the villain) in your movie is always a plus.
I like Old John Wayne too. Specially in "Big Jake" and "The Shootist."
Nah, it's not just you....but I've got some stuff that's keeping me pretty busy off the net right now. Not getting the chance to watch things and post about them like I want to.
 
Great movie. I love all of the old west actors in small parts. I'm a big Terence Hill fan.
Another good movie. Post was a good director. Bruce Dern did many small roles in westerns (TV and movies) before he hit it big.


Nah, it's not just you....but I've got some stuff that's keeping me pretty busy off the net right now. Not getting the chance to watch things and post about them like I want to.
Me too. I really like the Trinity movies with Bud Spencer.
 
I think that an important part of a Western hero is to find the right hat. Looking at the Cowboys and Aliens trailers, it doesn't seem like Craig found the right hat for himself:woot:
That would have never happened to Clint:cwink:
 
Any of you guys big readers? I read this book called Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy recently. It was amazing. Horribly violent though. It's sorta like, the Apocalypse Now of the Western genre. It doesn't romanticise it like the old John Wayne movies etc.

It would be a difficult book to adapt, because it is just so dense and violent. But if done right, it could be amazing.

Any of you guys read it?
 
I haven't read it yet, but I heard that it was good. (The Apocalypse Now of the Western genre sounds pretty cool to me.)
 
I tried reading Blood Meridian but McCarthy's style and the relentless misery caused me to give up after about 40 pages.
 
Yeah, McCarthy is a tough read. Bleak and dreary...almost too much so.
 
Yea that's pretty much exactly what happened to me. heh. I had to go back a second time and conciously say to myself "Get through it". Once you read yourself into the book and get used to the style, not just the level of violence, it's really rewarding. It's a masterpiece.

I read online that Ridley Scott was gonna do it, but then dropped it for Prometheus. Apparently James Franco is trying to get it off the ground now or something.
 
Has The Big Gundown been mentioned yet? It's my favorite spaghetti western not by Leone. It has a fantastic score by Morricone, as well as great performances by Tomas Milian and Lee Van Cleef.

Everyone should see it if they can find it. It's hard to locate. Because of that, at least watch this clip. It has a snippet of the soundtrack, and the film's memorable duel between knife and gun. You might recognize the film's score from another more recent film involving a few basterds. :cwink:
 
^ Cool.

Just watched Cowboys & Aliens. Not a great Western by any means, but one thing I enjoyed was seeing Walton Goggins in a Western, he reminded me of Bruce Dern a bit and that was cool. In general, I thought all the supporting actors were pretty well cast.
More Westerns (Aliens optional:cwink:) I'm still looking forward to seeing a better horror/scifi/Western hybrid some day though.
 
Has The Big Gundown been mentioned yet? It's my favorite spaghetti western not by Leone. It has a fantastic score by Morricone, as well as great performances by Tomas Milian and Lee Van Cleef.

Everyone should see it if they can find it. It's hard to locate. Because of that, at least watch this clip. It has a snippet of the soundtrack, and the film's memorable duel between knife and gun. You might recognize the film's score from another more recent film involving a few basterds. :cwink:
It comes on the WESTERN CHANNEL tonight...I'll be sure and record it.

^ Cool.

Just watched Cowboys & Aliens. Not a great Western by any means, but one thing I enjoyed was seeing Walton Goggins in a Western, he reminded me of Bruce Dern a bit and that was cool. In general, I thought all the supporting actors were pretty well cast.
More Westerns (Aliens optional:cwink:) I'm still looking forward to seeing a better horror/scifi/Western hybrid some day though.

In case you didn't know, Walton was in Jackie Chan's SHANGHAI NOON.

And FYI....there was an episode of THE TIME TUNNEL where the time travellers were transported to the American west in the 1880's....and had to fight off an alien invasion!!!!:awesome:
 
It comes on the WESTERN CHANNEL tonight...I'll be sure and record it.



In case you didn't know, Walton was in Jackie Chan's SHANGHAI NOON.

And FYI....there was an episode of THE TIME TUNNEL where the time travellers were transported to the American west in the 1880's....and had to fight off an alien invasion!!!!
:awesome:
Cool, I didn't know that. Thanks for the info.
In terms of Western Hybrids, I used to be a huge fan of the Wild wild West TV Show. Not the film.
They should reboot with Peter Dinklage as Dr Miguelito Loveless:awesome:
 
I don't get how people go ape **** for ninjas and samurai but not for westerns:huh:
 
So yeah, I guess I'll post my favorite westerns, just because I can.

1. An American Tail: Fievel Goes West [you might think it's silly but Jimmy Stewart's last words on film move me to tears]
2. The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
3. Duck, You Sucker/ Once Upon A Time in the Revolution
4. Once Upon A Time in the West
5. The Big Gundown
6. My Name Is Nobody
7. The Searchers
8. For A Few Dollars More
9. Blazing Saddles
10. The Shakiest Gun in the West/The Paleface
11. Maverick
12. The Sacketts
13. The Mercenary
14. The Good, The Bad, and the Weird
15. El Dorado

Recommendations welcome.
 
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Any of you guys big readers? I read this book called Blood Meridian by Cormac McCarthy recently. It was amazing. Horribly violent though. It's sorta like, the Apocalypse Now of the Western genre. It doesn't romanticise it like the old John Wayne movies etc.

It would be a difficult book to adapt, because it is just so dense and violent. But if done right, it could be amazing.

Any of you guys read it?

A movie adaptation is still very much in development, and I see no reason it shouldn't/wouldn't get made, considering that Hollywood has gotten their hands on pretty much everything Cormac has ever written.

I don't get how people go ape **** for ninjas and samurai but not for westerns:huh:

It's largely political.
And a backlash against both what the western stands for (or is purported to stand for), and against oversaturation in the 40s-60s.

Those decades mark the "golden age" of Westerns, but those films and TV shows have to be viewed through a filter that allows you to recognize that attitudes toward the genre back then were quaint and outdated (at best), and downright backward and racist (at worst).

Revisionist westerns, from the late 60s onward, have tried to address or downplay now unpopular notions about Indians as "savages;" about Mexicans as ogrish bandidos; about the "conquest" of nature; the "civilization" of societies that were already civilized; the romanticization of vigilante "justice" and the gun as "peacemaker"; among other themes.

After the "golden age" of Western movies & TV died in the late 60s, the genre was considered old-fashioned, unhip, and very right-wingy; all of which meant very unpopular in Hollywood.

Even today, Westerns are still trying to shake that John Wayne image, while at the same time trying to reconcile with it.

I have no doubt that the genre still has life left in it, and could be commercially viable again, if Hollywood would grow some balls and give the genre a shot and some fresh approaches, and realize that Westerns don't have to begin and end with John Wayne and Clint Eastwood.

I'm hoping that the immense popularity of Red Dead Redemption as a video game might be a good indicator that there's still an audience out there just waiting for the genre to be reborn.
 
So yeah, I guess I'll post my favorite westerns, just because I can.

1. An American Tail: Fievel Goes West [you might think it's silly but Jimmy Stewart's last words on film move me to tears]
2. The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly
3. Duck, You Sucker/ Once Upon A Time in the Revolution
4. Once Upon A Time in the West
5. The Big Gundown
6. My Name Is Nobody
7. The Searchers
8. For A Few Dollars More
9. Blazing Saddles
10. The Shakiest Gun in the West/The Paleface
11. Maverick
12. The Sacketts
13. The Mercenary
14. The Good, The Bad, and the Weird
15. El Dorado

Recommendations welcome.
Good list.
There are some great westerns mentioned throughout this thread. Here are a few of my favorites (not including the ones you already mentioned of course):
_ Little Big Man
_ The Man Who Shot Liberty Valance
_ The Magnificent Seven
_ Rio Bravo
_ The Outlaw Josey Wales
_ Jeremiah Johnson
_ Ride the High Country
_ Monte Walsh (the one with Lee Marvin)
_ The Shootist
_ A Man Called Horse
_ The Professionals
_ Unforgiven

And so many more, most of them already mentioned in this thread. (C. Lee is an expert.)


"The Great Silence" is a pretty top notch Western that doesn't really get the attention Sergio Leone movies get. It also kinda has the exact opposite ending.
I liked it, mostly for Kinski and Trintignant and the snow settings.
 

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