Of course I also love The Wild Bunch, it's just that maybe I find Ride the High Country somehow more moving. But you really can't go wrong with any of them and I'm glad you liked it. Another "end of an era" Western I really like is The Shootist, directed by one of my favorite directors Don Siegel. I think it's John Wayne's last role and he is also pretty moving in it, specially knowing that he had cancer, like his character in the film.
Hey Parker Wayne, you need to watch My Name Is Nobody, it's the best Leone Western you've never seen. OK, not technically a Leone movie, but he wrote and produced it and his imprint is all over the film.
It stars Henry Fonda and Terence Hill and even though it might not exactly be in the same league as OUATITW (very few movies are, right?), it's still a great Western and I highly recommend it.
Yes. THE SHOOTIST was Waynes last movie. A great high note to go out on. A great all-star cast too. I also really liked how they used the old footage from Wayne's movies to portray his character through the years at the beginning.
MY NAME IS NOBODY is another great mostly unknown western. It took me many years to find a decent DVD of it.
Today I'm watching the Lee Van Cleef SABATA westerns (Sabata and Return of Sabata).
Yes. THE SHOOTIST was Waynes last movie. A great high note to go out on. A great all-star cast too. I also really liked how they used the old footage from Wayne's movies to portray his character through the years at the beginning.
MY NAME IS NOBODY is another great mostly unknown western. It took me many years to find a decent DVD of it.
Today I'm watching the Lee Van Cleef SABATA westerns (Sabata and Return of Sabata).
I agree. I also really liked the use of the old footage.
My Name is Nobody is Great, but unfortunately hard to find indeed.
And I've always wanted to watch the Sabata films as well but never had the chance. I know I will in the future, because I'm a big fan of Lee Van Cleef.
They're fun....offbeat, a little weird now and then.
As has been mentioned elsewhere....Cleef's character bears a striking resemblance to Colonel Mortimer from FOR A FEW DOLLARS MORE.....he wears the same type of clothes and has a penchant for exotic weapons.
Several supporting cast actors are in both movies....but don't play the same characters. Both movies also have acrobats as part of the plot. Plenty of wild action and shootouts.
It had been about 30 years since I last saw them, so it was all pretty new to me. I plan on watching the Yul Brynner movie ADIOS SABATA in a few days. The only reason this was called Sabata was because the Van Cleef movie was a hit...so they changed the title and characters name in mid production to cash in on it (fairly easy to do when all voices are dubbed).
I love Yul Brynner in Westworld (The "Original Terminator" and allegedly an inspiration for Schwarzenneger.) I love how he kinda looks like his character in The Magnificent Seven, one of my favorite Westerns.
On a side note, Eli Wallach is awesome in TGTBATU of course, but he is also great in The Magnificent 7 and manages to upstage everyone else in the movie, no small feat.
Watched THE MASTER GUNFIGHTER (1975) this morning. This is another movie I haven't seen since it's original release. This is a strange little movie that I didn't remember a whole lot of, so re-watching it was almost like watching for the first time.
**SPOILERS AHEAD**
If you don't want to read spoiler...do not read further.
It begins with a spoken narration by Burgess Meredith that almost seems like it was put on after preview audiences said WTF after watching. The narration says - All history is part fact, part fiction, and mostly interpretation.The picture you are about to see is based upon the never substantiated legend of a remarkable six chambered double action pistol that fired 12 repeating bullets and which was brought from the East by the son of one of the last great land owning Spanish Dons. Educated along with his sister in England and the Orient....he returned not only with the pistol, but with a mastery of the technique of the Samurai sword as well. It is also a story of the legendary Master Gunfighter...who by the use of that same gun and samurai sword, changed forever the history of early California. But it is also factual in that contrary to public opinion the supposedly peaceful California missions were really built upon forced slave labor. Once an Indian was enticed into becoming baptized he was never allowed to leave or change his mind...he would be flogged for sinning, for disobedience, or for not putting out his scheduled amount of work. More serious crimes were punished by having ones fingers cut off, eyes cut out, and even castration. And these atrocities were reported against priests as well as soldiers. And it is also factual that the Americans in their turn not only stole all the land from the Spanish, but in the process attempted to destroy their culture and to exterminate them as a people as well. Part fact, part fiction, and mostly interpretation. This is a story of how it was in early California...as well as how it might have been.
The above narration gives explanation to how he can shoot so many times without reloading...and to why he and several others carry Samurai swords. It's never mentioned any where else in the movie anything about Japan or Samurais...and the one part where someone mentions his gun being able to shoot 12 times...it's done in a voice over where you don't actually see anyone saying it. Like I said earlier...I could be wrong, but it seems to be added in later after people may have complained about it.
It stars Tom Laughlin, who played Billy Jack...and he plays this as Billy Jack goes to old California. He's a sensative guy who has to be really really pushed before he resorts to barbaric violence...then he'll chop your head off and feel bad about it later. It co-stars Ron O'Neal (SUPERFLY) who plays the Spanish don/samurai who's sister (Barbara Carrera -NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN, LONE WOLF MCQUADE) is married to Laughlin. There is also the interesting role of gambler/American secret agent played by African American actor Lincoln Kilpatrick (SOYLENT GREEN, THE OMEGA MAN).
It has decent action (shootouts and sword fights)....you just have to scratch your head about how it could happen...then remember that the narrator gave them a way out by saying it - It's part fact, part fiction, part interpretation...this is a story of how it MIGHT have been.
Ok, I have to join in and make my list. Here are my top ten favorite movie westerns of all time:
1. Silverado
2. Pale Rider
3. Tombstone
4. Open Range
5. Lonesome Dove (The original mini series)
6. True Grit (Have not seen the remake yet, so this is more of John Wayne.)
7. The Shootist
8. Unforgiven
9. The Outlaw Josey Wales
10. McLintock!
Watched THE MASTER GUNFIGHTER (1975) this morning. This is another movie I haven't seen since it's original release. This is a strange little movie that I didn't remember a whole lot of, so re-watching it was almost like watching for the first time.
**SPOILERS AHEAD**
If you don't want to read spoiler...do not read further.
It begins with a spoken narration by Burgess Meredith that almost seems like it was put on after preview audiences said WTF after watching. The narration says - All history is part fact, part fiction, and mostly interpretation.The picture you are about to see is based upon the never substantiated legend of a remarkable six chambered double action pistol that fired 12 repeating bullets and which was brought from the East by the son of one of the last great land owning Spanish Dons. Educated along with his sister in England and the Orient....he returned not only with the pistol, but with a mastery of the technique of the Samurai sword as well. It is also a story of the legendary Master Gunfighter...who by the use of that same gun and samurai sword, changed forever the history of early California. But it is also factual in that contrary to public opinion the supposedly peaceful California missions were really built upon forced slave labor. Once an Indian was enticed into becoming baptized he was never allowed to leave or change his mind...he would be flogged for sinning, for disobedience, or for not putting out his scheduled amount of work. More serious crimes were punished by having ones fingers cut off, eyes cut out, and even castration. And these atrocities were reported against priests as well as soldiers. And it is also factual that the Americans in their turn not only stole all the land from the Spanish, but in the process attempted to destroy their culture and to exterminate them as a people as well. Part fact, part fiction, and mostly interpretation. This is a story of how it was in early California...as well as how it might have been.
The above narration gives explanation to how he can shoot so many times without reloading...and to why he and several others carry Samurai swords. It's never mentioned any where else in the movie anything about Japan or Samurais...and the one part where someone mentions his gun being able to shoot 12 times...it's done in a voice over where you don't actually see anyone saying it. Like I said earlier...I could be wrong, but it seems to be added in later after people may have complained about it.
It stars Tom Laughlin, who played Billy Jack...and he plays this as Billy Jack goes to old California. He's a sensative guy who has to be really really pushed before he resorts to barbaric violence...then he'll chop your head off and feel bad about it later. It co-stars Ron O'Neal (SUPERFLY) who plays the Spanish don/samurai who's sister (Barbara Carrera -NEVER SAY NEVER AGAIN, LONE WOLF MCQUADE) is married to Laughlin. There is also the interesting role of gambler/American secret agent played by African American actor Lincoln Kilpatrick (SOYLENT GREEN, THE OMEGA MAN).
It has decent action (shootouts and sword fights)....you just have to scratch your head about how it could happen...then remember that the narrator gave them a way out by saying it - It's part fact, part fiction, part interpretation...this is a story of how it MIGHT have been.
Sounds like a weird, but fun film.
Speaking of East meets West, I don't really know where to stand on the eventual big screen adaptation of "Kung Fu."
On one hand, I was a huge fan of the series when I was a kid and I'm afraid they will screw it up ("Wild Wild West", another TV series I really loved, comes to mind), but on the other hand, Martial arts and cowboys, how awesome would that be if they get it right.
Let's hope for the best and that they find the right Kwai Chang Caine if the film ever becomes a reality (hopefully a real Asian man this timet: I still dream about how the Bruce Lee version would have looked.)
Yes. THE SHOOTIST was Waynes last movie. A great high note to go out on. A great all-star cast too. I also really liked how they used the old footage from Wayne's movies to portray his character through the years at the beginning.
MY NAME IS NOBODY is another great mostly unknown western. It took me many years to find a decent DVD of it.
Today I'm watching the Lee Van Cleef SABATA westerns (Sabata and Return of Sabata).
I checked, it's on Netflix. I'm gonna watch it again very soon.
I also enjoyed the Trinity movies when I was younger (Trinita in Europe).
I liked the dynamic between Terence Hill and Bud Spencer.
I can understand why someone who grew up loving the characters and are fans of the original story could be turned off by the latest incarnation of The Lone Ranger and Tonto (I think it's the case for you, C. Lee.)
But personally I'm not super familiar with the characters, (that said, I have always liked the idea of a kind of super hero/western hybrid and the look of the characters) and, even though I'm tired of Depp wearing again the same kind of make-up and his usual and tired schtick, I have to admit that I'm intrigued by the film.
If only because after the "Wild Wild West" and "Cowboys and Aliens" misfires, I'm really waiting for a movie to get the mix of Western and Fantasy right. (Also I enjoyed Verbinski 1st foray into Westerns with "Rango", where he showed that he loved the genre I think.)
But like I said, I can see why some people would be less than excited about that 1st photo and the whole project. Time will tell, I guess.
Starring; James Stewart, Arthur Kennedy, Rock Hudson, Jay C. Flippen, and Julie Adams.
The movie opens in Oregon, where Stewart is leading a small wagon train of farmers from Missouri. Stewart is a man with a rough past that he's tries to overcome, he saves Kennedy from a lynching (he tells him he doesn't care if he was innocent or not, he just doesn't like lynchings...as he rubs his hankerchief covered neck) and brings him back to the wagons. Julie Adams is the daughter of the leader of the farmers. Stewart likes her...but is hesitant to say anything....Kennedy has no qualms about it.
The movie is filled with action...indian attacks, shootouts, chases....and it's all enhanced by beautiful location filming in Oregon. The supporting cast is a who's who of old westerns and this was the turning point for Stewart from generally lighthearted fare to serious action star.
Starring; James Stewart, Arthur Kennedy, Rock Hudson, Jay C. Flippen, and Julie Adams.
The movie opens in Oregon, where Stewart is leading a small wagon train of farmers from Missouri. Stewart is a man with a rough past that he's tries to overcome, he saves Kennedy from a lynching (he tells him he doesn't care if he was innocent or not, he just doesn't like lynchings...as he rubs his hankerchief covered neck) and brings him back to the wagons. Julie Adams is the daughter of the leader of the farmers. Stewart likes her...but is hesitant to say anything....Kennedy has no qualms about it.
The movie is filled with action...indian attacks, shootouts, chases....and it's all enhanced by beautiful location filming in Oregon. The supporting cast is a who's who of old westerns and this was the turning point for Stewart from generally lighthearted fare to serious action star.
Just got this one recently on amazon and I'm looking forward to watching it when I have a little more time on my hands.
I really like the Mann and Stewart's Westerns that I've seen so far (Namely "Winchester 73" and "The Naked Spur.") Definitely a different, tougher persona for Stewart and he totally pulls it off.
Starring; James Stewart, Ruth Roman, Corinne Calvet, Walter Brennan, and John McIntire.
Two years after director Anthony Mann and star James Stewart made BEND OF THE RIVER they reteamed for THE FAR COUNTRY. Bringing a herd of cattle to the northwest to sell to the gold miners flooding into the area, Jeff Webster (Stewart) and his pal Ben Tatum (Brennan) run afoul of crooked judge Gannon (McIntire) and his band of gunhands. Stewart is forced to steal his own cattle from the crooked Judge and make a run across the border into Canada (the movie was beautifully shot around Alberta, Canada) where he plans on selling the beef and doing a little gold hunting himself.
Stewart is a hardcase who only cares about himself and his pal Brennan. Others try to befriend him, but he tends to shrug that off and do things his own way. Before long, McIntire and his group cross the border and set up shop to steal, cheat, and kill the miners. This leads to a showdown between them and Stewart.
Another gritty change of pace role for Stewart, with a load of familiar faces (most of the cast from BEND are back) and great location shoots.
Just got this one recently on amazon and I'm looking forward to watching it when I have a little more time on my hands.
I really like the Mann and Stewart's Westerns that I've seen so far (Namely "Winchester 73" and "The Naked Spur.") Definitely a different, tougher persona for Stewart and he totally pulls it off.
Yeah, they were a good pairing. I've seen the ones you mention and the ones I just have posted about in the past....but I'm, as you know, currently trying to watch my giant stash of movies that are either new to me or not seen for decades. I've been trying to do a little from all genres....and saw I was light on westerns last month.
Starring; James Stewart, Ruth Roman, Corinne Calvet, Walter Brennan, and John McIntire.
Two years after director Anthony Mann and star James Stewart made BEND OF THE RIVER they reteamed for THE FAR COUNTRY. Bringing a herd of cattle to the northwest to sell to the gold miners flooding into the area, Jeff Webster (Stewart) and his pal Ben Tatum (Brennan) run afoul of crooked judge Gannon (McIntire) and his band of gunhands. Stewart is forced to steal his own cattle from the crooked Judge and make a run across the border into Canada (the movie was beautifully shot around Alberta, Canada) where he plans on selling the beef and doing a little gold hunting himself.
Stewart is a hardcase who only cares about himself and his pal Brennan. Others try to befriend him, but he tends to shrug that off and do things his own way. Before long, McIntire and his group cross the border and set up shop to steal, cheat, and kill the miners. This leads to a showdown between them and Stewart.
Another gritty change of pace role for Stewart, with a load of familiar faces (most of the cast from BEND are back) and great location shoots.
I bought this one too.
Stewart's collaborations with Mann really showed a very interesting and different aspect of his talent than the nice, regular guy image that he perfected in most of his other films.
Starring; James Stewart, Arthur Kennedy, Donald Crisp, Cathy O'Donnell, Alex Nicol, and Jack Elam.
This again was directed by Anthony Mann. Stewart is a man on a mission. At first he appears to just be the head of a wagon hauling company who comes into the wrong town at the wrong time....but he is also looking for the man who has been selling repeating rifles to the Apaches in the area. He runs into the old harsh cattle baron, his sadistic son, and the hired hand who loves the baron like a father and is jealous of the son. Another very good western by a great team of movie makers.
Starring; James Stewart, Shelley Winters, Dan Duryea, Stephen McNally, Millard Mitchell, and Will Geer.
This was the first of the Anthony Mann/James Stewart westerns. Lin McAdam (Stewart) and his saddle pal "High Spade" (Millard Mitchell) are looking for a man. They stop at Dodge City where there is a 4th of July shooting competition being held with a special Winchester'73 being the prize, because they believe he will be there for it. He is, and that he is using the name Dutch Henry Brown (McNally) comes to a surprise to them. They obviously know and hate each other. All people entering Dodge City have their guns taken from them by Wyatt Earp (Will Geer)...so when they see each other they each reach for their now missing guns. Wyatt tells them he doesn't care what they do to each other when they leave Dodge, but they will behave while in it. Stewart wins the shooting competition and gets the rifle....but it is stolen by Dutch and his men a short time later....and the chase begins.
There is plenty of action and drama with lots of interesting characters appearing along the way....such as John McIntire (he was the crooked Judge in the Stewart/Mann film THE FAR COUNTRY) as a man running guns to the indians, Rock Hudson (the gambler from the Stewart/Mann film BEND OF THE RIVER) as the Indian Chief Young Bull (almost unrecognizable in war paint and a fake nose), ex saloon girl Lola (Winters), her cowardly boyfriend (Charles Drake), army cavalryman Sgt. Wilkes (Jay C. Flippen, from the Stewart/Mann films BEND OF THE RIVER and THE FAR COUNTRY)....also look for Tony Curtis (as Anthony Curtis) as a cavalryman in a small role.
As usual with this group....a highly recommended watch.
A good movie. I haven't watched it for a long time, but I do have it on DVD, this reminder means I'll dig it out soon. I'll probably do a John Wayne marathon like I'm currently doing with Jimmy Stewart.
Starring; James Stewart, Shelley Winters, Dan Duryea, Stephen McNally, Millard Mitchell, and Will Geer.
This was the first of the Anthony Mann/James Stewart westerns. Lin McAdam (Stewart) and his saddle pal "High Spade" (Millard Mitchell) are looking for a man. They stop at Dodge City where there is a 4th of July shooting competition being held with a special Winchester'73 being the prize, because they believe he will be there for it. He is, and that he is using the name Dutch Henry Brown (McNally) comes to a surprise to them. They obviously know and hate each other. All people entering Dodge City have their guns taken from them by Wyatt Earp (Will Geer)...so when they see each other they each reach for their now missing guns. Wyatt tells them he doesn't care what they do to each other when they leave Dodge, but they will behave while in it. Stewart wins the shooting competition and gets the rifle....but it is stolen by Dutch and his men a short time later....and the chase begins.
There is plenty of action and drama with lots of interesting characters appearing along the way....such as John McIntire (he was the crooked Judge in the Stewart/Mann film THE FAR COUNTRY) as a man running guns to the indians, Rock Hudson (the gambler from the Stewart/Mann film BEND OF THE RIVER) as the Indian Chief Young Bull (almost unrecognizable in war paint and a fake nose), ex saloon girl Lola (Winters), her cowardly boyfriend (Charles Drake), army cavalryman Sgt. Wilkes (Jay C. Flippen, from the Stewart/Mann films BEND OF THE RIVER and THE FAR COUNTRY)....also look for Tony Curtis (as Anthony Curtis) as a cavalryman in a small role.
As usual with this group....a highly recommended watch.
Great Western. Of course Rock Hudson was not very believable as a Native American, but I guess it was a time when unfortunately they were played by Caucasian actors.
I wonder when they started using real Native American actors in Westerns? Was it in the 70's with the great Westerns like "Little Big Man" or "The Outlaw Josey Wales"?
Maybe you know, C.Lee?
Speaking of Caucasian actors playing Native American characters, I think one of them really did a great job: Jack Palance in "Arrowhead".
Powerful performance in a very good Western. Even though he was of Ukrainian descent I believe, he was a fierce and somewhat quite believable Indian chief.
He also played a Mexican character in "The Professionals" and I thought he was also really believable. Great underrated actor.
Great Western. Of course Rock Hudson was not very believable as a Native American, but I guess it was a time when unfortunately they were played by Caucasian actors.
I wonder when they started using real Native American actors in Westerns? Was it in the 70's with the great Westerns like "Little Big Man" or "The Outlaw Josey Wales"?
Maybe you know, C.Lee?
Speaking of Caucasian actors playing Native American characters, I think one of them really did a great job: Jack Palance in "Arrowhead".
Powerful performance in a very good Western. Even though he was of Ukrainian descent I believe, he was a fierce and somewhat quite believable Indian chief.
He also played a Mexican character in "The Professionals" and I thought he was also really believable. Great underrated actor.
I'm no expert....but there have been Native Americans playing Native Americans in the movies since almost the beginning....it's just that they rarely played major or leading roles until the late 60's early 70's. The main exception to this has been the past LONE RANGER productions.
That's one of the reasons I'm a little put off by the new Johnny Depp movie where Depp (a possibly maybe could be somewhere in his past affiliated with Native Americans) is playing Tonto.
Sgt. Rutledge (Strode) is on trial for rape and murder. Lt. Cantrell (Hunter) is assigned for the defense. There are also running battles with renegade Apaches. Typical western? Not on your life. It's also a social commentary on race relations. At the trial, the story unfolds in flashbacks. Rutledge is an African American member of a mainly black garrisoned fort. He is accused of raping and murdering a white teenage girl and of murdering a superior officer to get away with it. While on the run he saves a stranded in the desert white woman (Towers) from attacking Apaches. And after the cavalry catches up to them and places him under arrest, they are attacked by a large band of Apaches and he is instumental is saving them all. Are these last things the actions of a murderous rapist? Is the prosecution so intent on proving him a murderous deviant because of the crime....or that it is a black man accused of doing it to white people?
An Excellent movie with a fantastic performance by Strode.
GUNS FOR SAN SEBASTIAN (1968)
Starring Anthony Quinn, Anjanette Comer, Charles Bronson, and Sam Jaffe.
In 1749 Mexico, outlaw Leon Alastray (Quinn) wounded and running from the law makes his way into a church seeking sanctuary. The priest (Jafee) in charge accepts him in....the higher ups in the church are displeased with his non politically expedient stance....and assign him to remote San Sebastian as punishment. as he leaves for there, he sneaks Quinn out under the noses of the guards. Once safely away....Quinn tries to talk him out from going to San Sebastian because it is a terrible place. The priest says it is duty to do so....and Quinn begrudgingly goes along to help him.
When they finally arrive, they find the village abandoned (the people are hiding in the hills because of continued attacks by Yaqui Indians) except for bandit Teclo (Bronson) and his men who treat the villagers almost as bad as the Yaquis. Bronson hates the church and anything affiliated with it. He and his men kill the old priest, and thinking Quinn is also one, string him to a tree and beat him. The villagers arrive and nurse him back to health (believing also that he is a priest)....being an ornery kind of guy, he decides to stick around (and act like a priest) and save the village from the Indians and the bandits. While use of blood is limited, it's still a pretty violent movie at times.
DAY OF THE EVIL GUN (1968) **SPOILERS**
Starring Glenn Ford, Arthur Kennedy, Dean Jagger, John Anderson, and Nico Minardos.
Ex gunslinger Lorn Warfield (Ford) returns home after many years of being away only to find that his wife and two daughters were captured by Apaches a few weeks before. Owen Forbes (Kennedy) tells him that he will help him bring them back....because he wants to marry her himself. They go off in search and run into several harrowing situations involving Apaches, Commoncheros, crooked United States Army cavalry men, and double dealing Mexicans (almost like the movie wanted to show there were bad people of any race).
Of interesting note to watch, is that Ford, who says at the beginning he has hung up his guns and doesn't want to kill anymore, may fight and threaten people....but he doesn't really harm or kill anyone....while Kennedy, the professed peaceful rancher who says he doesn't think he could ever kill anyone, progressively gets more savage and ruthless as their journey continues. Ford says to him after one of his killings - "Funny how easy it becomes after awhile, isn't it?"
They eventually save his wife and kids....and she chooses to stay with Ford. Kennedy is not a happy camper at all and calls him out to a gunfight over her. I'll put the end in spoiler tags so only those who don't care about getting spoiled will see....
They get the wife and kids back to town. The doc says they will be Ok eventually from their ordeal, but will need gentle handling. Ford says he will do it...and the Doc tells him his wife asked for Ford to go get some clothes for her and the kids. He goes to the store and picks out some clothes, he has no money for it so offers his pistol and holster as trade. The store owner takes it, but has to condescending tell him that it is an evil gun used for evil purposes...he says he could never understand how someone could kill another person. Ford just nods and walks out with his clothes. Kennedy accosts him in the street and says it isn't right the way things are going...he wants to fight for her. Ford refuses and walks off. Kennedy throws his pistol at his feet (as he holds a shotgun) and tells him to go for it. Ford refuses again, turns and walks away....to be shot in the back. He goes down but is still alive....Kennedy walks over reloading the shotgun and says he is going to finish the big man. As he points the shotgun, now point blank, at Ford...the storekeeper who has been watching this along with the rest of the town, pulls Ford's traded gun from it's holster and shoots Kennedy dead. A wounded Ford slowly rises and the end credits play.
I remember watching Day of the Evil Gun with my dad a while ago, I remember really liking it and need to watch it again. Haven't seen Guns for St. Sebastian, but it sounds like it needs to be my next watch. Always love your posts on this thread C. Lee, thanks.
I'm no expert....but there have been Native Americans playing Native Americans in the movies since almost the beginning....it's just that they rarely played major or leading roles until the late 60's early 70's. The main exception to this has been the past LONE RANGER productions.
That's one of the reasons I'm a little put off by the new Johnny Depp movie where Depp (a possibly maybe could be somewhere in his past affiliated with Native Americans) is playing Tonto.
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