The Amazing Spider-Man The Gwen Stacy thread

[Project862006]

I have got a question for all you do you guys really want this storyline to happen in the new Spiderman Reboot?

I am sorry but at this point the appeal has left the building in my opinion with THe Dark Knight already doing it and doing it recently.

If they did the Death Of Gwen Stacy it would be seen as a TDK rip off and the controversy and balls to do it would be gone as well. Since Nolan already had his Hero not be able to save the woman he loved and the main villain causing the female lead's death.

does the appeal still stand to this with Nolan killing Rachael not even 2 years ago

thoughts??

 

[Rodrigo90]

Too soon for that.

 

[Spider-Ranger]

Well it seems kinda ripped off...

the general audience doesn't know aboit Gwens death in the comics...

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

Like the Spectacular Spiderman animted series, I have been against having Gwen Stacy die, and I am 100% against having her die the same why in the comics. It just feels forced and predictable. Plus, a bridge battle between Spiderman and GG was already used in the first Spiderman. Everything that happens in the comics doesn't and shouldn't have to happen in films.

 

[Nathan]

Just because Batman lost his love in the Movies, Sony shouldn't be scared to adapt the Gwen storyline. Especially since the scenario is vastly different. Spider-Man is there when Gwen gets dropped, not several blocks away.

He has the chance to save her, but she dies anyway. But it was never really clear if she was already dead when Goblin dropped her, or if she was unconscious and died from getting her neck broken when Spider-Man caught her with the web. Yet if he wouldn't have done anything, it would have been a guaranteed death anyway.

He has to live with the fact that he was there, but still couldn't save the love of his life.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Thats always been one of strongest weaknesses...Guilt.

 

[Project862006]

but Nathan you could say peter was right there when ben died had he stopped the robber then sandman would of ran off most likely and his only father figure would still be alive

 

[Crook]

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[Crook]

Have you guys read the story or are you taking a simple premise of killing the romantic interest as some sort of scapegoat for once again hanging onto TDKs nutsack?

Honestly the two scenarios are completely different and so are the circumstances stemmed from that death. C'mon. This is a great story, and would be tons better than TDK if adapted well. First we'd actually care for Gwen, second the sequence would be a lot more grand and dramatic. You're going to run from that because of one slight similarity? Please.

 

[Nathan]

He lost Uncle Ben because he acted petty and let the robber go, he wasn't aware of the consequences. But here he has the chance to act. He does, he catches her, but she dies anyway.

 

[Kanon]

Again fighting the Goblin in a brigge and he lets Spidey's girl fall?

And yes, people are going to compare with TDK... many with the death of Rachel, but many more with the scene where the joker throws her laughing trough the window, so Batman has to catch her... I know it's dumb, it has been done, but still...

 

[Rodrigo90]

Cant we see Peter and Gwen develop together first? Maybe having them actually going for walks and holding hands? Losing their virginity together? Just a nice teen romance and she finds out he is Spider-Man, BEFORE SHE IS THROWN OFF A BRIDGE BY A MADMAN?!!?

 

[FaT_tONle]

They gotto mix it up. Maybe kill her off as a close friend of Parker but not a love interest, sort of accidental. Not a villain directly responsible for it (or someone different than Norman). Maybe Spiderman is responsible for it. It shouldn't be a direct rehash from the comics.

 

[Nathan]

I'd want her being dropped in the 3rd Movie. Ending the first new Trilogy on a very saddened and dramatic tone.

 

[Rodrigo90]

Its more tragic if she is his GF.

 

[Reikowolf]

The Night Gwen Stacey died is not just a very popular arc in the Spider-Man mythos but it is also marked as a huge change in the character, as well as comics in general.

It was the first time such a key character to the superhero had ever been killed and the hero could not prevent it.

This story, if done with a director who understands its significance and importance, would make for a great cinematic moment.

Essentially, it's the point where Peter Parker stopped being young.

 

[marvelrobbins]

Personally I always wished the green goblin would have killed mary Jane
Instead of Gwen.But they should devolp Gwen and Peter's relationship over 2 or 3 films.Rachel In The dark Knight was never really with Bruce Wayne and
was going to marry Harvey dent.Noone really care If she died.With gwen
you need time to make the audence like her.and like her with Peter,and It
be a tragedy when she Is killed.

Ideal i would have In second film her and Peter getting very close.Suggest
they lose their virginity with each other(These are Pg-13 films) and her
death cause Peter to really go after the green goblin(admit It the green Goblin
In Rami's version beat up SPider-man too much.Spider-Man here should be
the one overpowering him and he just barely keeps himself from going too far
and killing him) and In a third film losing Gwen at end of film 2 makes it even worse when Peter bonds with the symbate.Of course If they wanted to wait and have gwen die In film 3 then that would be fine too.

 

[TheSlag]

In a word... Yes. In two words.. HELL YES!

Is it different from TDK which basically took it from Spider-Man? Yes in some ways. In some ways the two stories will have basic parts that seem the same.

1) It's Spider-Man's brith right
2) It establishes the Goblin's Legacy
3) Norman Osborn knew Gwen, and knows who Spider-Man is
4) Norman is basically a father figure to Peter, as Harry is like a brother to Peter
5) It takes the story full circle. Peter did not use his powers (responsibly) and his Uncle Ben paid the price. Now, Peter, despite ALL his powers, still cannot save the one he loves. It reenforces, that the ones he Loves will always pay the price. In this case, the ultimate price.

Add to that the Capt Stacy Death Arc.. where Gwen dies thinking Spider-Man caused the death of her father... wow. I could also see quite a few variations thay could take from the comic verse (while still staying true to the overalll storyline) that would/could be very powerful, and add to the overall story.

For example.. GG taunting Gwen before he throws her to her death (if that is how they choose to do it) that Spider-Man, the person she thinks killed her father.. is indeed.... "Peter"

That, could be EXTREMELY intense (I would use the word "gritty" but why set off the dogs again ) and could be VERY moviing.

And besides, they could/should not do this storyline in one movie. They should do it in 3 movies (into the reboot). They have to establish Gwen first to make this meaningful, as well as introduce the Goblin/Osborn. We're talking at best, approx 8 years from now.

 

[Jennifer Walters]

Doing this in the last part of a trilogy with Green Goblin emerging from a Norman Osbon we've grown to know as Harry's father and a friend of the girl about to die would make this absolutely heart breaking and shattering.

More so than the girl that was in 2 Batman movies for a couple scenes.

 

[Artistsean]

I could see the studio seeing the negative fan reaction to MJ and making Peter end up with Gwen this time. Making it all about Peter and Gwen, even if they don't end up together I don't see them having her die like they did in the comics (to dark for younger viewers I would imagine).

 

[Danalys]

iron man basical managed to do the overal story of batman begins not too long after. but yeah i'm still pissed TDK managed to beat spidy to the punch cinematically of that which was his, and should have been done years earlier.

 

[Reikowolf]

In a word... Yes. In two words.. HELL YES!

Is it different from TDK which basically took it from Spider-Man? Yes in some ways. In some ways the two stories will have basic parts that seem the same.

1) It's Spider-Man's brith right
2) It establishes the Goblin's Legacy
3) Norman Osborn knew Gwen, and knows who Spider-Man is
4) Norman is basically a father figure to Peter, as Harry is like a brother to Peter
5) It takes the story full circle. Peter did not use his powers (responsibly) and his Uncle Ben paid the price. Now, Peter, despite ALL his powers, still cannot save the one he loves. It reenforces, that the ones he Loves will always pay the price. In this case, the ultimate price.

Add to that the Capt Stacy Death Arc.. where Gwen dies thinking Spider-Man caused the death of her father... wow. I could also see quite a few variations thay could take from the comic verse (while still staying true to the overalll storyline) that would/could be very powerful, and add to the overall story.

For example.. GG taunting Gwen before he throws her to her death (if that is how they choose to do it) that Spider-Man, the person she thinks killed her father.. is indeed.... "Peter"

That, could be EXTREMELY intense (I would use the word "gritty" but why set off the dogs again ) and could be VERY moviing.

And besides, they could/should not do this storyline in one movie. They should do it in 3 movies (into the reboot). They have to establish Gwen first to make this meaningful, as well as introduce the Goblin/Osborn. We're talking at best, approx 8 years from now.

right on. I'm all for that

 

[The Joker]

If MJ can be kidnapped by the villains three separate times in the same franchise, then Gwen can be killed off in the new franchise.

These TDK comparisons are really

 

[Doctor Jones]

Nobody is going to give a damn if they do it differently. Yes, because both situations are the same. The only thing that is the same is that both die. But in different ways. It could be much better if done right.

 

[TheSlag]

If MJ can be kidnapped by the villains three separate times in the same franchise, then Gwen can be killed off in the new franchise.

These TDK comparisons are really

Agreed. The comparisons over a couple of words, or a casual statement is getting silly.