The Incredible Hulk CGI Thread

[Cracker Jack]

Ooooooh! Ooooooh! Can I raise my post count through *****e baggery, as well?!!?!? Huh? Huh? Huh? Huh?

By all means my brother. Have at it.

 

[Scooter]

Ang's movie, while kinda neat to look at, was not the way to kick off a franchise. You do not tell people you’re going to open up a steak house and serve hotdogs at the grand opening.

You're right, it wasn't packaged properly. But your analogy is backwards. People were promised hotdogs and beer, but what they got was filet mignon. The adertisments portrayed Hulk as a non-stop action-fest; it turned out to be much more complex. Some people don't want to think these days (not that there was too much to really think about in Hulk).

But as for franchises, I'd rather have one very good film (which I got), than 2 or 3 mediocre films (which I'm probably getting).

 

[The Joker_1000]

What killed the movie for me was that it was so slow moving & the fact that the acting was stale. It's not that any of them were bad actors (except maybe Nick Nolte) but the acting was stale, it was like none of the character's had any emotions except the Hulk himself.

 

[FrostBite]

Thanks Frosty. I didn't mean to jump in. You are doing a good job. But I just couldn't resist

One persons garbage is another persons art. or something like that. t:

The more people on Frostbite's side, the stronger an impact it makes.

 

[Scooter]

You may not have liked his performance, but, come one, Nolte was anything but stale.

 

[FrostBite]

You may not have liked his performance, but, come one, Nolte was anything but stale.

No no, that was Bana, Nolte may bit a bit off his rocker, but the man is a powerful actor.

 

[M.O.Steel]

why are you guys assuming it's an unfinished CGI. i'm pretty sure the CG will be closer to the shots in the trailer than people might be willing to admit, at least i think that shot is 90-95% complete. they won't do anything revolutionary to change from the way he looks in the trailer to when we see him in the movie.

and why would they feature the teaser trailer of the most important character of the movie unfinished? you guys gotta realize that they would want to present the hulk the best way possible, not just tape something together with duct tape and send it out, especially when abom looks pretty done.

 

[Cracker Jack]

You're right, it wasn't packaged properly. But your analogy is backwards. People were promised hotdogs and beer, but what they got was filet mignon.

Fair enough you can have filet mignon. I'll take the Rib Eye.

The adertisments portrayed Hulk as a non-stop action-fest; it turned out to be much more complex. Some people don't want to think these days (not that there was too much to really think about in Hulk).

At least you admit that it wasn't this big thinking movie that some people say it is. Like Frosty and several others, I thought it was boring. It was not hard to follow and I understood it fine. It was just boring to me.

But as for franchises, I'd rather have one very good film (which I got), than 2 or 3 mediocre films (which I'm probably getting).

I will never understand this way of thinking.

 

[Scooter]

No no, that was Bana, Nolte may bit a bit off his rocker, but the man is a powerful actor.

Indeed, Nolte can bring it. The best performance in the first film.

 

[FrostBite]

But as for franchises, I'd rather have one very good film (which I got), than 2 or 3 mediocre films (which I'm probably getting).

Good, now what you need to understand is that most of us got an incredibly mediocre film, and are now prospected with another one to go with it.

You should be happy, really I am truly happy for those who liked the film. Now it's the rest of our turns.... hopefully. (If not sucks to be us.)

 

[Scooter]

Fair enough you can have filet mignon. I'll take the Rib Eye.

I hate to say it, but TIH is looking more and more like dog food...

At least you admit that it wasn't this big thinking movie that some people say it is. Like Frosty and several others, I thought it was boring. It was not hard to follow and I understood it fine. It was just boring to me.

Which is fine. There wasn't a lot to think about, at least not questioningly. That doesn't mean it was bad; it was complex and layered and nuanced and meticulously crafted, but not very mysterious - which is good.

I will never understand this way of thinking.

You'll never understand the desire to see good films instead of crappy films?

 

[The Joker_1000]

This Hulk film is going to be damn near perfect, it's going to be way better than what we got in '03, I'm sure of it.

 

[FrostBite]

I hate to say it, but TIH is looking more and more like dog food...

Now you are starting to understand how some of us see the older one.

 

[Scooter]

Good, now what you need to understand is that most of us got an incredibly mediocre film, and are now prospected with another one to go with it.

Incorrect. I do not need to understand anything.

You should be happy, really I am truly happy for those who liked the film. Now it's the rest of our turns.... hopefully. (If not sucks to be us.)

I should be happy that they've (apparently) squandered the oppurtunity for a quality, quality series of well made films by hiring a third-tier director and dumbing down the sequels? Why on Earth would that make me happy?

 

[Scooter]

Now you are starting to understand how some of us see the older one.

Yeah, but you guys are wrong.

 

[FrostBite]

Incorrect. I do not understand anything.


I should be happy that they've (apparently) squandered the oppurtunity for a quality, quality series of well made films by hiring a third-tier director and dumbing down the sequels? Why on Earth would that make me happy?

Fixed it for you as my other point apparently flew right over your head.

You got a "quality" movie that you liked. Thats why you should be happy.

Unlike the rest of us who have not had that opportunity for a decent Hulk film in our eyes.

 

[Kirmit]

why are you guys assuming it's an unfinished CGI. i'm pretty sure the CG will be closer to the shots in the trailer than people might be willing to admit, at least i think that shot is 90-95% complete. they won't do anything revolutionary to change from the way he looks in the trailer to when we see him in the movie.

and why would they feature the teaser trailer of the most important character of the movie unfinished? you guys gotta realize that they would want to present the hulk the best way possible, not just tape something together with duct tape and send it out, especially when abom looks pretty done.

No one is assuming anything, LL said himself it is unfinished. The hulk won't look drastically different design wise no, however skin texture and blending into the background moreso are things that can be drastically changed in 3 months. Look at the tank scene in the Iron Man superbowl trailer, looked very fake, videogame like and completely unrealistic. Only one month or so after the release of that trailer we got the full trailer featuring that scene, however looking completely different, very realistic, great. TIH had about 3 months or more depending on when the shots were given to the editing team to improve on the cgi, plenty of time to make big green look better.

As for why release it with unfinished shots, LL was under pressure to show something, many argue he was already really late in the game, so I don't blame him releasing unfinished shots at this point.

 

[Cracker Jack]

I hate to say it, but TIH is looking more and more like dog food...

Do you really want to open up this trick bag?

Which is fine. There wasn't a lot to think about, at least not questioningly. That doesn't mean it was bad; it was complex and layered and nuanced and meticulously crafted, but not very mysterious - which is good.

Good to you, to me the Hulk staring at moss is not very deep. I wil say though, the "I have lived once" Sequences was very well done and actually paid off.

You'll never understand the desire to see good films instead of crappy films?

No I'll never understand the Ang gang that thinks just because TIH is not going to be like Hulk it's going to suck. It may very well suck on levels known to man. It may (most likely) blow away Ang so bad it will crawl back under the moss covered rock it crawled out from under. But we don't know this yet, do we?

 

[The Joker_1000]

Yeah, and I'm wrong, as usual.

Fix'd.

 

[Kirmit]

I don't see why people who liked the first film instantly think this one will suck because it isn't a direct sequal with the same director, cast etc. I loved the first movie myself but am eagerly antisipating this one, it's still hulk, just a different take on him. It's like Batman Begins and the first 2 Batman films, those 2 were great films imo, when BB rolled round it was a new director, new cast, new everything and still turned out great, it could be the same with TIH.

 

[dark_b]

No one is assuming anything, LL said himself it is unfinished. The hulk won't look drastically different design wise no, however skin texture and blending into the background moreso are things that can be drastically changed in 3 months. Look at the tank scene in the Iron Man superbowl trailer, looked very fake, videogame like and completely unrealistic. Only one month or so after the release of that trailer we got the full trailer featuring that scene, however looking completely different, very realistic, great. TIH had about 3 months or more depending on when the shots were given to the editing team to improve on the cgi, plenty of time to make big green look better.

As for why release it with unfinished shots, LL was under pressure to show something, many argue he was already really late in the game, so I don't blame him releasing unfinished shots at this point.

opinion. it didnt look fake to me the first time. and unrealistic?
show me a scene in the real world to show me how it looks realistic.

 

[FrostBite]

I don't see why people who liked the first film instantly think this one will suck because it isn't a direct sequal with the same director, cast etc. I loved the first movie myself but am eagerly antisipating this one, it's still hulk, just a different take on him. It's like Batman Begins and the first 2 Batman films, those 2 were great films imo, when BB rolled round it was a new director, new cast, new everything and still turned out great, it could be the same with TIH.

Because some people never like change. They don't like different takes once they find one version they like. It's the same for those whom refuse to give the Ultimate books a chance, because they like 616 so much.

 

[Cracker Jack]

It's the same for those whom refuse to give the Ultimate books a chance, because they like 616 so much.

*cough cough*

 

[Kirmit]

opinion. it didnt look fake to me the first time. and unrealistic?
show me a scene in the real world to show me how it looks realistic.

Unrealistic, as in something that doesn't look like it could happen right infront of you, it looked 300ish. The lighting, the look of the character animation, the texture of the buildings didn't look like things that could exist in the real world. I had no problem with the scene first time around, I thought it looked artistic.

 

[FrostBite]

*cough cough*

Don't worry CJ, wasn't saying it's bad to be close minded!

Besides I hate some of the Ultimate stories (*Cough* Sex Crazed Hulk *Cough*), others? I just like the fresh take.