The Irredeemable ANT-MAN!!!!!!!!!!!

[Kool-Aid]

I'm not either. Theres five shops around me that had good size stacks of them and they all sold out of every issue. I started late on the series and it was a ***** trying to find them all.

 

[Kool-Aid]

anyways, i was thinking of possible characters who could put up with Eric; maybe form a small team (make-shift League of Losers). all i've got so far are...



Dusk
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/53/DuskCassie.jpg

Hood
http://www.marvunapp.com/Appendix3/hoodmax1.jpg

Terror
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/c/cf/Marvtu016.jpg

&

Sleepwalker
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f5/E_SLEE001CVR_proof5.jpg

i'm not sure about the last two but they are outcasts; what i'm looking for. they'd be a small group of fugitives from registration who Cap's side won't take (or they just don't feel comfortable going to Cap's side).

lol I've never heard of any of them before, but they look intersting.

 

[Kool-Aid]

Ant-man recommended reading(s) list:

Avengers 195-196
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=05815547774%20195%20SIGNED
&
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=enlarge&issue=05815547774%20196


Avengers 223
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=05815547774%20223

Avengers #62
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=05819410642%2062

Avengers #76
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=05819410642%2076

Heroes for Hire #6
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=40146787124%206

Iron Man #133
http://image.milehighcomics.com/istore/images/fullsize/42856589026.133.GIF

Marvel Two-In-One #87
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=52075323508%2087

&
Marvel Comics Presents #131
http://www.milehighcomics.com/cgi-bin/backissue.cgi?action=fullsize&issue=51598259310%20131

Thanks for that, i'll have to check them out. That Avengers 196 is the first appearance of Taskmaster right? I've been looking for that for a few years, because he's one of my favorite characters.t: That 195 is alot of money.lol Do you have all of Ant-Man's apearances?

 

[Muze]

Thanks for that, i'll have to check them out. That Avengers 196 is the first appearance of Taskmaster right? I've been looking for that for a few years, because he's one of my favorite characters.t: That 195 is alot of money.lol Do you have all of Ant-Man's apearances?

oh, i wasn't suggesting that you buy them from that website. i just use it because it has pictures of the covers on it. yeah, that was Taskmaster's first appearance. and, no, i don't have all Ant-Man appearances; just all of Scott Lang's (Ant-Man II). the above is a list of stories i'd recommend to anyone trying to figure the character out. it's all of his highpoints, so to speak. hopefully, Eric will have his highlights, as well.

 

[deemar325]

Originally Posted by Muze
2ND QUESTION:
i don't think Eric and Wade would get along as teammates. i could imagine Deadpool being a coach of some sort to him (& maybe the Hood) but that guy (Wade) is just too unpredictable. not that he's a favorite character or anything (and i've already had this discussion with another poster) but i seriously think that Freedom Ring would have been the perfect character to share a title with Ant-Man. why? because they are exact opposites. Curtis' first thought after getting was ring was that people needed saving and it was his responsibility (as a guy with powers) to do that. Eric's was that he needs this costume to survive and spy on womenz. Curtis was gay and seeking a monogamous relationship. Eric's a heterosexual hornball who doesn't seem to understand loyalty or fidelity. i think Freedom Ring's quirkyness and Eric's jerkiness could have floated a decent ongoing.

P.S. i'm not talking about a team-up, either. i'm talking about the book being split so that you can follow the adventures of both characters. but maybe they could both live in the same apartment complex to bridge the gap.



Pretty damn good idea.

 

[Dread]

It's true that stores typically underorder #2 of an ongoing until they get stable numbers, making it harder to find. We'll see if #3's sales figures improved any. I like the book, but frankly Newsarama and Jinxworld liked THE THING too, and we know how that ended. Just usually the innovative books end up selling poorly, and I hate that.

I could easily imagine an oddball line of up Terror, Dusk, Sleepwalker and the Hood working out with Ant-Man. Call them the New Outlaws.

 

[Muze]

It's true that stores typically underorder #2 of an ongoing until they get stable numbers, making it harder to find. We'll see if #3's sales figures improved any. I like the book, but frankly Newsarama and Jinxworld liked THE THING too, and we know how that ended. Just usually the innovative books end up selling poorly, and I hate that.

I could easily imagine an oddball line of up Terror, Dusk, Sleepwalker and the Hood working out with Ant-Man. Call them the New Outlaws.

i was just thinking that, if Eric doesn't make it, then Terror could use him for spare body parts. t:

 

[Muze]

bump..............................................

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Just wanted to subscribe to this thread

 

[Darthphere]

So yeah, like I said, I hope this book gets cancelled soon so you ungrateful bastards can stop getting the greatness of Hester and Parks.

 

[Muze]

So yeah, like I said, I hope this book gets cancelled soon so you ungrateful bastards can stop getting the greatness of Hester and Parks.

why are you still posting here? you dropped the book. i'm supporting Kirkman and Hester. i gave you the benefit of the doubt but now you've moved into a-hole territory. yeah, i get that you want the title cancelled. you and every other troll. doesn't bother me because you have nothing to do with the success or failure of this book. so stop pretending that you like the creative team because you are happily crapping all over their work, every time you post. and that's pretty much all i have to say to you. i've got no time for fake friends.

 

[Darthphere]

why are you still posting here? you dropped the book. i'm supporting Kirkman and Hester. i gave you the benefit of the doubt but now you've moved into a-hole territory. yeah, i get that you want the title cancelled. you and every other troll. doesn't bother me because you have nothing to do with the success or failure of this book. so stop pretending that you like the creative team because you are happily crapping all over their work, every time you post. and that's pretty much all i have to say to you. i've got no time for fake friends.

OMG! Thats great Feelings: Caught.


And yeah like I said, I love Hester and parks, thats a fact, I could give a **** what you have to say. But I've heard far too many people say they don't like them on this book, awesome, I hope they get off the book and do something else, because frankly, this book is garbage. Ill say it again, garbage. I could care less about the main character, its more of Marvel's, the old stuff wasn;t selling so lets do something dramatically different. Well guess what, it ain't working. I frankly dont want to read a comic with a complete dick as the main character. It works for Iron man because he's at least charming. So yeah like I said before, Hester and parks talents are better suited elsewhere.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

 

[Colossal Spoons]

OMG! Thats great Feelings: Caught.


And yeah like I said, I love Hester and parks, thats a fact, I could give a **** what you have to say. But I've heard far too many people say they don't like them on this book, awesome, I hope they get off the book and do something else, because frankly, this book is garbage. Ill say it again, garbage. I could care less about the main character, its more of Marvel's, the old stuff wasn;t selling so lets do something dramatically different. Well guess what, it ain't working. I frankly dont want to read a comic with a complete dick as the main character. It works for Iron man because he's at least charming. So yeah like I said before, Hester and parks talents are better suited elsewhere.

I bolded the parts that Darth should remember are his opinions, not fact. I also highlit in blue the part that made me "lol". That is all.

 

[Charlie No-One]

I just got the new issue. I like it but I prefer Scott or Hank as Ant-Man. I hope this is a temporary thing.

 

[Dread]

Reposting my review of the last issue from the B/T thread before Muze does:

Spoiler

IRREDEEMABLE ANT-MAN #5: Unlike ULTIMATE X-MEN, where Kirkman at times seems utterly lost on what he wants to do on that book, ANT-MAN here has a full purpose, if you can bare with the conveluted story (it takes place both "months ago" and "in the present, sorta", which can take some drama out of the suspence for past scenes, as you know Eric or Mitch can't die). But it's another fun romp from Kirkman & Hester with their unabashed U-Turn of a legacy hero concept. Most "legecy heroes" in a way quickly spit-shine themselves to "replace" their previous mantle bearer, or at least are made to be likeable so earnestly that they risk becoming generic, as the new Blue Beetle and Atom face (even Bart was warped a bit to become Emo Wally Lite as The Flash). Kirkman decides to brake the mold and try something new, and is rewarded with low sales and almost no advertising; y'know, the usual. Eric O'Grady is an jerk and almost unashamedly so; while not a ruthless criminal or monster, he's like that jerkwad in every class or office who lies a lot and weasels through life, only now he's stumbled upon a super ant-suit. Turns out that Mitch, in an older Ant-Man suit, encounters Eric in the SHIELD airshaft and beats the snot out of him, before Eric's pet ants attack him and he makes an escape. In the present, Eric escapes his date's apartment and steals a ride on Mitch's "holy snap I ripped off 2099" hovercar. Back in the past, Eric is slowly brushing off Veronica with the "just not into you" routine, and she emotionally breaks down, especially after taking a pregnancy test and presumably being positive. Mitch also makes a "lucky guess" that Eric is the Ant-Man, but can't prove it to anyone and has no proof. While Eric is naturally an oppurtunistic sleaze, neither he or Chris would have been in the position to interfere with that suit if not for Mitch's involvement, so as Kirkman has sais, "no one's hands are clean" here, except maybe Verionica, who'd been lied to all along. The shift from past to present is annoying but Kirkman manages it with a light style that stays current in continuity (the agents play poker and discuss DECIMATION) and on assumptions about SHIELD agents (not all of them fly in jetpacks). In this title, Kirkman's done the impossible; taken a franchise that to my memory has never had an ongoing before that wasn't an anthology like TALES TO ASTONISH or whatever, at least not for the past 20 years, and make it a rivetting cult hit. It's THE SHIELD only with, erm, SHIELD and ANT-MAN. The deadbeat father routine (Eric is SO not going to stick around for Veronica's pregnancy and childbirth, least not at this point in his life) is pushing the barrier a little far with whether one can keep reading without loathing the character enough not to pay $3 for it, but hey, if Cyclops can bounce back from it, ("Honey, I'm going to leave you and our son now to go play with my resurrected true love and best friends for about a year, thanks!"), Eric's not the only one. Besides, soap operas and even Dennis Leary's firefighter drama have implied outright rapes and people still watch. Anyway, Kirkman's on a roll here by going completely against type and casting Ant-Man III as a total opposite of what most heroes usually are, and into a figment of what most cynics believe many men really are. Loved how he assumed he'd eventually become an Avenger. Hey, if Venom and Bullseye can become government soldiers, Eric's a bloody saint in comparison. He's an oppurtunist liar, not a killer. Ant-Man may be "iredeemable", but the book is unstoppable. Pity it won't last a year if sales don't hold steady as it dips way past the Top 100. I hope to enjoy the rest of the arc and Kirkman's run while it lasts. It's been a fun ride.

 

[PhotoJones]

i say the book'll last to issue 8.

 

[Colossal Spoons]

Darth hates it and Dread likes it...that's a good sign.

 

[Dread]

i say the book'll last to issue 8.

Not a bad guess since #7 has seemingly been solicted. I'll enjoy it while it lasts. Even if that would make it outlast THE THING. But no sour grapes for good books.

 

[Phoney Bone]

Yeah, I really love this book, but I doubt it's going to last very long, just the tough facts, so I'm savoring every second of this wonderful book. It's just so different.

 

[AndThePickles]

Yeah, I really love this book, but I doubt it's going to last very long, just the tough facts, so I'm savoring every second of this wonderful book. It's just so different.

I agree, I like the fact that it's so different. Always a refreshing read.

 

[Darthphere]

Darth hates it and Dread likes it...that's a good sign.

You mean Dread the person who buys Ultimate Spider-Man even though he admits is pure garbage? Ok.

 

[deemar325]

So yeah, like I said, I hope this book gets cancelled soon so you ungrateful bastards can stop getting the greatness of Hester and Parks.

Kind of belated answer, but eat me.

 

[PhotoJones]

You mean Dread the person who buys Ultimate Spider-Man even though he admits is pure garbage? Ok.

zing!

 

[PhotoJones]

oops. double post.