Muze said:
the advertising of HOWLING COMMANDOES was a red flag to me that it probably wouldn't be a good read. the art made the story incredibly hard to follow, as well.
At least they warned us that it was rubbish.

I just wish some better books had been promoted like that. At least IRON FIST is getting ads now.
as Kirkman described, he's just a really lazy guy. i think this is preferable to him being malicious like a Deadpool or the Hood. i'll be happy as long as he saves a few people occassionally. it's all that separates him from those other two characters. Eric looks after his own interests but those interests don't seem to include bank robbery or murder-for-hire. sure, he got an expensive free meal out of Beth. but it was hers to offer, at least.
Yeah, debates about Eric as a character take a turn when the creator himself does a summary. I agree with your assessment, he's not an out and out criminal but he is a lazy, selfish empowered human who is only a "hero" in the sense that he occasionally saves people and punches out nasty men, if he's in the mood, available, and/or can get something out of it.
just curious; mainly because Wolverine detects Eric and Nick before they arrive. he would know the difference between Nick and a LMD (Jessica Drew did).
The LMD thing and Wolverine's senses have been an issue a few times. Back during the 90's when Nick Fury was believed to have been killed by the Punisher, they had this huge funeral and Logan definately confirmed in "was him", although later they naturally said it was a LMD. They've been using those to have Fury escape death since the 60's. I suppose it wouldn't be too unreasonable to believe that SHIELD could make some LMD's that could fool even Logan, although it didn't in SECRET WAR. It's one of those continuity variable things. Some LMD's can "fool" him later for retconned plot convience and others can't, also for plot convience.
true but Eric did it by complete accident and was promptly squirted to the ground. he could have also crawled into his ear and just shouted really loud. that would have knocked him unconscious or, at least, thrown him off balance.
True, but punching an artery is F'ing hardcore.
try introducing them into A-List legacies. imagine how hard the next guy to step into Cap's boots is going to have to work.

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You mean Winter Soldier? I bet. I mean, DC does that a lot. Their fans would never accept a new Batman or Superman, but a new Blue Beetle or Atom or even Green Arrow is okay, at least for a short while. Marvel is less frequent with their legacies but usually sticks to their guns, with some exceptions.
please. this isn't Scott Lang we're talking about here. there is nothing in the way of Greg returning. too much effort was spent in setting him up as a new hero (something marvel can't spare, at the moment).
I was surprised at his death and I do hope it is part of some "plan" for him, as the Watcher seemed to suggest. McDuffie is moving to FF so it's not like he's "outside their circle".
the other problem i was going to mention is that Eric is basically too new to appear anywhere but his own title. no other writers are going to throw Kirkman a bone and have him make a guest appearance, at least.
Probably not. Although as he is a little simular to the Hood I could imagine Vaughan doing fine with him.
true. Cyke used to be my favorite character; back when all i knew about were the x-titles. it's a shame what's happened to him.
Cyclops is written well in ASTONISHING and other books since, just that moment was just extreme superdickery. Eric at least has been consistant as a jerk, but Cyclops was supposed to at least LIKE Jean as a person even if their marriage ended before her death. It smacked of him being needlessly vindictive because Morrison was for his own ex. To compare, it isn't impossible for Spider-Man and MJ to divorce in terms of characters, but it WOULD be out of character if Peter made out with Felicia on MJ's grave.
yeah but most comic readers can forgive stuff like threatening humanity. it's stabbing friends in the back that they can't overlook.
It only hurts when it is made more personal and down to Earth, much like in MAN OF STEEL when Luthor became seen as really nasty not after trying to kill Superman or take over Metropolis endless times, but by jerking around innocent waitresses with false promises (he would offer them $1 million to live with him for a year, claim to give them 1 hour to decide, and then split and gloat about how the waitress would be emoting about that for the rest of her life; all as a game to pass time).
And yeah, some of those pages are funny