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The List of Things That Batman 89 Got Right/Wrong

I thought the Joker was great!
maybe a bit over the top and A bit more comedic than pshycopath.
Tim Burton went with a Joker that people who hadnt read the comics would know (i'm tryin to say people who know who the joker is but dont read the comics )
In the new film the joker is going to be portrayed how all us batfans want him to be portrayed
I CANT WAIT TILL THE DARK KNIGHT!!!
 
I still dont get how some of you dot think Nicholsons Joker was a dark psychological madman i cant be bothered to list all his crazy antics in B89 you all know them like the back of your hand just like i do i think the joker inB89 is like many of the comics a flambouyant trickster who dresses in brightly coloured cloths but is a criminal genious who can fly into fits of rage and is known for his insane laugh. my favourite batbook Batman: Nightfall is very similer to nicholsons joker to say he isnt close to any comic version is absurd IMO. Nicholson was slightly overweight for the role but like keaton who didnt match the batman physique his performance completely made up for all that.
 
I still dont get how some of you dot think Nicholsons Joker was a dark psychological madman i cant be bothered to list all his crazy antics in B89 you all know them like the back of your hand just like i do i think the joker inB89 is like many of the comics a flambouyant trickster who dresses in brightly coloured cloths but is a criminal genious who can fly into fits of rage and is known for his insane laugh. my favourite batbook Batman: Nightfall is very similer to nicholsons joker to say he isnt close to any comic version is absurd IMO. Nicholson was slightly overweight for the role but like keaton who didnt match the batman physique his performance completely made up for all that.

many people do not know that there was a time when the Joker was not a mass-murdering nutcase and "Mr Zsasz as a clown".
 
You mean Knightfall I suppose

And Jack Nicholson was great, still great today

A fly over the cuckoo's nest, the shining, the witches of eastwick...great madness flooding the sane world! Nicholson is imposing, intimidating, great qualities for a Joker!

And of course, B89 got the intemporal time effect right! As they said, they located this story in a fictional world, using costumes that do not define a special time in history, so that's a factor that makes the movie still enjoyable those days, it doesn't feel like it gets old by the time
 
A fly over the cuckoo's nest, the shining, the witches of eastwick...great madness flooding the sane world! Nicholson is imposing, intimidating, great qualities for a Joker!

ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOOS NEST
 
many people do not know that there was a time when the Joker was not a mass-murdering nutcase and "Mr Zsasz as a clown".

Exactly. At one point in time, the 40s and 50s actually, he never laughed like a maniac, nor pulled pranks. He didn't really have gimmicks, he was a psychopath who only had the appearance of a clown. That take can be interesting, but I prefer the more modern version.
 
ONE FLEW OVER THE CUCKOOS NEST
Sorry for this terrible mistake, I should have know, it's just that I remembered the title in french, I couldn't remind the original title! As a movie maniac, I have almost insulted myself, I'll remember it for an eventual time I quote this memorable film!
 
Exactly. At one point in time, the 40s and 50s actually, he never laughed like a maniac, nor pulled pranks. He didn't really have gimmicks, he was a psychopath who only had the appearance of a clown. That take can be interesting, but I prefer the more modern version.

Wow, I didn't know that. Interesting. I also prefer the more modern version.
 
Exactly. At one point in time, the 40s and 50s actually, he never laughed like a maniac, nor pulled pranks. He didn't really have gimmicks, he was a psychopath who only had the appearance of a clown. That take can be interesting, but I prefer the more modern version.

But isnt Knightfall fairly modern? people are hypocrites in my view they mostly all ackknowledge Mark hamils joker,the long halloween, and Nicholsons joker to be the best around but now they hear that joker wont be so close to that interpretation they change there view to adapt to it. The original joker in the earliest comics was frankly boring he was a standard villain who dressed like a clown it was later when they added the laugh and gimmicks and pure insanity THATS when he became interesting.
 
And i am 100% sure the most recent appearance of joker in the current batman comic books isnt far removed from the knightfall/long halloween Joker we should be honest and admit this is the best interpretation of him he is the CLOWN PRINCE of crime after all.
 
Interesting little bit: The Joker of the comics didn't use to laugh every other page, it was something Cesar Romero thought of(to camp up the performance), it was so well received that it was added in the comics and still continues to this day. The modern Joker is basically the killer of the 40s and 50s combined with the prank-pulling Romero version. And viola!

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Btw, GC, love the site. I always go there when I'm searching for Rogues' profiles.
 
Interesting little bit: The Joker of the comics didn't use to laugh every other page, it was something Cesar Romero thought of(to camp up the performance), it was so well received that it was added in the comics and still continues to this day. The modern Joker is basically the killer of the 40s and 50s combined with the prank-pulling Romero version. And viola!

Btw, GC, love the site. I always go there when I'm searching for Rogues' profiles.

It should also be noted that the "Insanity" thing with the Joker just came up at the end of the 70s. Before he was the prankster and in the beginning and the early 70s ("Joker's Five Way Revenge") a criminal mastermind who had actually goals like money, revenge, diamonds etc. The drooling lunatic Joker wasn't there before the 80s.
 
Whenever the different aspects where added it made him the great character he is today far more interesting then his original form.
 
Have a read a few comics, but for the TV and movies, Nicholson and Ledger seem more full of surprise and threatening spontaneity that Romero lacked...not the same context, but I prefer the new ones
 
The Batman mytho, how Burton explained his way of intepreting the character with a menacing silhouette that lives in the shadows...and casting Michael Keaton who was as controversed as Ledger, but turned out to be excellent! RIGHT

Action RIGHT

Danny Elfman RIGHT

Casting Nicholson the Great RIGHT

Alfred as a father figure, but mostly a mentor that seeks Bruce's sake RIGHT

Dark tone, neogothic architecture RIGHT

Making the movie set in no precise time, with straight "intemporal" (could be in the 50s, in the 80s, in the 90s, who knows) costumes, thus making it less aging then other movies VERY RIGHT

No precise plot for the villain apart from just turning mad and willing upstage Batman and become kinglord of criminality WRONG

Killing Bob the Goon and Ray Charlesesque goon WRONG LOL

Gordon having a minor role WRONG (but not as wrong as in Returns)
 

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