The Marvel Cinematic Universe Is the Most Successful Franchise in US History

[Endeavor]

Yeah... that's why I said I still can't trust them. Been hurt too many times.

I wasn't disagreeing with you, just following up on your point.

I actually stopped collecting X-Men comics because of FOX... Since Marvel started changing the comics to fit the movies for a time.

 

[spideymouse]

I wasn't disagreeing with you, just following up on your point.

I actually stopped collecting X-Men comics because of FOX... Since Marvel started changing the comics to fit the movies for a time.

Nevertheless... DOFP looks amazing. Why oh why do I still get my hopes up??

 

[Endeavor]

Go in expecting crap, that way if it's not total **** you'll be pleasantly surprised.
That's what I did with the last Wolvie film.

 

[spideymouse]

Go in expecting crap, that way if it's not total **** you'll be pleasantly surprised.
That's what I did with the last Wolvie film.

That's actually what i did with XO:W, and to this day I like it more than X3. But with a movie titled DOFP, it's hard to go into it expecting crap. Maybe I need to re-think of it as Wolverine: Days of Future Wolverine. Or I could force myself to watch The Last Stand right before I watch it.

 

[Endeavor]

LOL exactly.

 

[Lord]

They made a mockery of Phoenix/Dark Phoenix, why would Frankling fare any better?
Nothing is safe at FOX. All they see is Wolverine Wolverine Wolverine.

You're acting as if Fox was some kind of evil entity, most of the problems going on backstage in the first 4 films were due to Rothman's involvement, Bryan Singer was just able to get a good vision that he agreed with. With First Class, Rise of the Planet of the Apes and Prometheus they've made sure that they're now giving their Directors more control.

I honestly think that the X-Men franchise works better when separated from the main Marvel Universe.

 

[Endeavor]

I'm talking about my personal experience with the studio and their past decisions and how that affects my outlook on their future projects.
I gave up hope long ago on X-Men being part of the MCU, I'm not entertaining the idea.

 

[spideymouse]

You're acting as if Fox was some kind of evil entity, most of the problems going on backstage in the first 4 films were due to Rothman's involvement, Bryan Singer was just able to get a good vision that he agreed with. With First Class, Rise of the Planet of the Apes and Prometheus they've made sure that they're now giving their Directors more control.

I honestly think that the X-Men franchise works better when separated from the main Marvel Universe.

I'm fine with another studio having and focusing on the X-Men--I agree that they're fine outside of the MCU. I still don't trust Fox though, even if Rothman's gone now. I need to see more X-Men movies that aren't centered around Wolverine in order for me to buy into it. I guess I'm sticking to a wait-and-see holding pattern. Maybe DOFP will blow us all away. I just want to temper my expectations.

 

[Lord]

I'm hoping for the best, but for some reason, Days of Future Past doesn't seem all that amazing for me, and for those that only follow the movies, i'm sure a plot about time travel will feel weird. With my worries about TASM 2 seemingly having come true from what reviews seem to indicate, i think i will go in expecting the worst.

As for the Fantastic Four, i have almost zero expectations, i think Fox should give all their atention to X-Men instead.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

I agree. They've earned it. This is the first time in history (as far as I know) where a connected film universe spanning multiple movies has ever been done using multiple characters and sequels.

The Universal Monster movies did it WAY back in the 1930's and 1940's....

 

[Tymminator]

MCU for the win.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

It's funny, when you say Marvel has the biggest total at the domestic box office Harry Potter fans bring up the fact that it took 9 movies.

But that changes the goal line to which franchise has the highest average domestic gross.

and Harry Potter still doesn't win that competition. Hunger Games and Iron Man do. Adjusted for inflation Star Wars, Spider-man and POTC have the highest average.

 

[Lord]

They only bring up that fact when MCU fans start to bait. Wither way, domestic doesn't really matter, and when the worldwide grosses are adjusted to average per film, Harry Potter is still king.

 

[DA_Champion]

They only bring up that fact when MCU fans start to bait. Wither way, domestic doesn't really matter, and when the worldwide grosses are adjusted to average per film, Harry Potter is still king.

Doesn't matter either, eventually Marvel Films will surpass the cumulative gross of Harry Potter regardless of inflation.

 

[KDM1986]

Doesn't matter either, eventually Marvel Films will surpass the cumulative gross of Harry Potter regardless of inflation.

Agreed, the marvel universe is looking like a unstoppable juggernaut. If Guardians is as successful as I think it will be. I don't see the marvel train slowing down anytime soon.

 

[MessiahDecoy123]

They only bring up that fact when MCU fans start to bait. Wither way, domestic doesn't really matter, and when the worldwide grosses are adjusted to average per film, Harry Potter is still king.

Even if we could adjust worldwide gross for inflation the biggest franchise would probably be Star Wars.

We're talking Avatar numbers once you adjust for inflation globally.

 

[Slushy]

And yet MCU needed nine movies to achieve this score. 'Harry Potter' saga earned so much money with only eight films.

Harry Potter was boring as fu**!

 

[Levsky]

That's just your opinion which, I'm sure of it, thousands of HP fans who helped it earn nearly 2,5mld wouldn't agree with.

It's funny, when you say Marvel has the biggest total at the domestic box office Harry Potter fans bring up the fact that it took 9 movies.

That's probably addressed to me since I have brought it up in the first place. So, I would like to inform you that I'm not a bigger fan of HP than a fan of MCU and I had no intention of favoring one franchise over another and setting it above. I only wanted to rate them fairly, according to known facts (and it is true that HP made it with less movies, that's all).

 

[psylockolussus]

The Harry Potter series was not boring at all.

Its one of the most consistent film franchises ever, in terms of quality. Its hard to achieve that with 8 films featuring the same lead character.

 

[CyclopsWasRight]

Doesn't seem like this is a fair comparison..? Marvel has made it a strategy to release two films a year, most of those other franchises took their time and went years without releasing movies or sequels.

If the Harry Potter, James Bond or Star Wars franchises made it a habit of releasing two movies a year, I'd bet all three would dwarf the MCU.

I don't consider the MCU a franchise per se. I see it as a collection of franchises.

Iron Man franchise
Thor franchise
Hulk franchise
Captain America franchise
Avengers franchise

The MCU is a continuity of these franchises. But to compare all of these together against single franchises (Potter, Star Wars ect...) is stacking the deck.

I kinda wish SONY had Daredevil, he would be at home in the same universe as Spider-Man in my opinion.

Same. He'd for in better with their universe. Street-Level and spectre identities and all.

If the next X-Films are as good as their past 2 and Bryan Singers's X-Films, then i have hopes for that universe, though i think that X-Men film should at most be an annual thing.

With the last two being as good as they were I'm already there.

Agreed about the annual.

They made a mockery of Phoenix/Dark Phoenix, why would Frankling fare any better?

All studios making Marvel movies have made mockeries of characters.

You're acting as if Fox was some kind of evil entity, most of the problems going on backstage in the first 4 films were due to Rothman's involvement, Bryan Singer was just able to get a good vision that he agreed with. With First Class, Rise of the Planet of the Apes and Prometheus they've made sure that they're now giving their Directors more control.

I honestly think that the X-Men franchise works better when separated from the main Marvel Universe.

I'm fine with another studio having and focusing on the X-Men--I agree that they're fine outside of the MCU.

Agreed. They've pretty much always been separate in the comics so I don't get why people want them involved with other heroes. Mutants are outcasts afterall

The Harry Potter series was not boring at all.

Its one of the most consistent film franchises ever, in terms of quality. Its hard to achieve that with 8 films featuring the same lead character.

I enjoyed them all. Great cast too.

 

[MakeMinesMarvel]

Marvel's done a great job at making secondary heroes cool. The Hulk was the only popular character they had the rights to and his movie is actually the least popular. Excited to see what they do with relative unknowns like GotG/Inhumans/Doctor Strange.

Happy they've been successful no reason WB/FOX/Sony didn't do this years ago.


Hopefully I can get a X-Force/X-Factor/Excalibur/Generation X films. Those would be the ultimate crossovers

 

[Tymminator]

Harry Potter was awesome.

I would consider the MCU a Mega-Franchise and IMO it deserves all the praise it gets. They had a plan and even if they did some thing I would not have, I respect they had a plan and they are both strengthening and expanding thier cinematic universe. I don't even have enough words to convey how awesome I think that is, and it's success is obvious and again deserved.

 

[Kahran Ramsus]

The Harry Potter series was not boring at all.

Its one of the most consistent film franchises ever, in terms of quality. Its hard to achieve that with 8 films featuring the same lead character.

And cast! It is really hard to keep a whole cast together like that for years like they did. I think the only significant recasting was due to the death of Richard Harris.

That being said, I think the first two are merely okay. I thought the series got a lot better starting with the third installment when the look and tone got revamped.