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The Amazing Spider-Man The Mary Jane Watson Thread

I nearly fell off my chair when I read that. Goddamn it!

Maybe she shows up right at the end, saying her classic line. I think that would be perfect
 
I will literally vomit if i see Mia play MJ near the end of the movie, please no. She's absolutely wrong for the role, it would have been as bad as Dunst or possibly even worse
 
Your original post was pointing out a possible confusion in the absence of MJ, since she is Peter's girlfriend in their eyes. I'm contending that it won't matter if the film is a success as a movie and with Gwen as a character. I'm not concerned with MJs recognition as much as I am with her current popularity. Which I'm confident isn't much if Dunst is all they have to go on.

If your point is about expectation, then that invalidates your first point as now we are going under the presumption that they know this is a refresh and are looking forward to who the next actress in the role will be. But again, if Gwen is up to snuff as the romantic lead then I don't really think they'd care. Audiences go to these films for the adventure and Spidey, not for his girl. Whatever the size of this unanimous group that are pining for MJ, it's not going to put a dent in this series' success.

You do make a good point--at the end of the day, this is a Spider-Man film, and that's ultimately what the audience to going to pay to see: a film about Spider-Man that fun, action-packed entertainment worth their time and money to see. And I see that there does seem to be a contradiction between my original point about audiences perhaps being confused about MJ's absence and the audience members who are aware that these Spider-Man films are reboots expecting her to show up in the future, so thanks for highlighting that.

So let me try to make it clearer and more precise: the movie goers who are not keeping up with the breaking news about the details of film are going to wonder if Mary Jane is going to be in the new films. Those who have been keeping track of the film are going to wonder--and have indeed wondered--whether or not she's going to be in the reboot films at some point. People who follow the comic books, or who at least have knowledge about the character, are going to wonder when Mary Jane is going to show up in these new films. And those who saw the Sam Raimi movies are going to wonder if Mary Jane is going to show up in these new films.

It's true that the Sam Raimi films played a part in cementing the idea that Mary Jane is Spider-Man's love interest, and certainly Kirsten Dunst's portrayal would be, in some cases, their first exposure to the character and the version they'd be the most familiar with. However, you have to take into account that Mary Jane has been a prominent supporting character and on again/off again love interest for Spider-Man since she was first introduced in the comics way back in the mid-1960s. For 20 of Spider-Man's almost 50 years of published existence, she was the wife of Peter Parker (and in Stan Lee's newspaper strip, she still is). She's been a principle supporting character in cartoons and video games, has been made into dolls and action figures, and even at one point had her own comic book series. Gwen Stacy certainly is a key figure in Spider-Man canon, primarily because she was the woman he loved that was murdered by his arch-enemy, the Green Goblin, but like it or not, Mary Jane has had far more longevity and exposure to the masses in part due to her popularity as one of Spider-Man's supporting characters. So the expectation for her to be a character in these new films, I imagine, is pretty high and that there is likely going to be confusion--even among those knowing full well this is a reboot film--about why she's not in the movie and wondering whether she'll be in the new films at all.
 
I will literally vomit if i see Mia play MJ near the end of the movie, please no. She's absolutely wrong for the role, it would have been as bad as Dunst or possibly even worse

Hey now, let's be fair. I'm sure that with her boyish good looks, she'd make a great Harry Osborn.
 
I'm not angry about the lack of Mary Jane. It'd be better to bring her into the sequel anyways.

This should be Gwen's chance in the spotlight.
 
I will literally vomit if i see Mia play MJ near the end of the movie, please no. She's absolutely wrong for the role, it would have been as bad as Dunst or possibly even worse
10 times worse Id say lulz/
 
Mia Wasikowska from Alice in Wonderland was going to play MJ.

Alice in Wonderland’s Mia Wasikowska was going to be Mary Jane Watson in Spider-Man. That’s what I was told earlier this week. But as you’ve no doubt read elsewhere, Sony has decided not to include the character in this next installment. Smart - the character never featured in the script anyway, but Sony considered “slotting her in” somewhere. It was ultimately decided that Emma Stone’s Gwen Stacey would be enough woman for Peter Parker (Andrew Garfield). Still a chance Mary Jane may appear at the very tail end of the film, to set up the sequel, but that’s just speculation. Be interesting to see if Sony goes back to Wasikowska when they do decide to bring the red-haired beauty into the mix.


I hope, for your sake and the person who wrote this, this is just a bad joke.

Mia is the worst possible young actress out of the whole of Hollywood who could play MJ.

I can think of about 300 actresses who would be better for MJ off the top of my head.


I would literally not see the movie if she was playing MJ. :barf:


But in all honesty I would really like MJ to make a cameo near the end. It's not the same without MJ around.
 
Liar. Your ass will be at a theatre opening night just like the rest of us :o

:up: at the cameo though. It should be right at the end, and she should say that line!
 
Liar. Your ass will be at a theatre opening night just like the rest of us :o

:up: at the cameo though. It should be right at the end, and she should say that line!


I SWEAR. If Mia is gonna be cast as MJ I would NOT see the movie.


I am literally THAT repulsed by Mia.
 
I wouldn't mind an appearance IF done right. I never, ever want to see the "Face it, tiger" line and scene in a Spider-Man film.
 
I SWEAR. If Mia is gonna be cast as MJ I would NOT see the movie.


I am literally THAT repulsed by Mia.
Even if the plot is good, Even if Garfield and Stone are fantastic, even if the action scenes are glorious? Even if the only blemish to this movie is Mia?

Brilliant :down
 
ehh im on the fence by that famous line...i just feel it would be odd to be said on screen...as for mia as mj? heck no.
 
Somebody put this in the Glee thread for Agron.

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I like it. :up:

Albeit, she is more Gwen and Stone is more MJ, but Sony didn't get it right last time, so why start now?
 
And if MJ isn't in this...well they just blew it again. What better way to distinguish this not just from Raimi, but every superhero movie made to date?

Have there not just be "the superhero's girlfriend." Have there be a love triangle with two girls and a hapless superhero instead of the superhero trying to woo her from some other more impressive male.

If it's just Gwen, the big change is her hair color went from red to blonde. Oh well.
 
I hope, for your sake and the person who wrote this, this is just a bad joke.

Geez dude. Would you relax? It's not like I wrote the thing. I'm just posting what I read. Get a grip and get your panties unbunched. :whatever:
 
And if MJ isn't in this...well they just blew it again. What better way to distinguish this not just from Raimi, but every superhero movie made to date?

Have there not just be "the superhero's girlfriend." Have there be a love triangle with two girls and a hapless superhero instead of the superhero trying to woo her from some other more impressive male.

If it's just Gwen, the big change is her hair color went from red to blonde. Oh well.
Gwen could be different from the MJ we got. It's a great move to leave MJ out FOR NOW. She'll show up eventually, we are getting three more movies (unless some serious **** happenes)

We'll get love triangle. Unless they kill her off in the first movie
 
And if MJ isn't in this...well they just blew it again. What better way to distinguish this not just from Raimi, but every superhero movie made to date?

Have there not just be "the superhero's girlfriend." Have there be a love triangle with two girls and a hapless superhero instead of the superhero trying to woo her from some other more impressive male.

If it's just Gwen, the big change is her hair color went from red to blonde. Oh well.

This is kind of how I feel about the whole thing.

Oh well. This is just my personal opinion, but with a lot of the recent casting news and the "No MJ" news, the reboot is steering me towards complete apathy. Maybe that's a good thing though. We'll see if I care enough to see it in 2012.
 
Gwen was very much an adjunct character in Raimi's Spidey 3, and really didn't need to be there, so I'm glad that it looks like they're giving her a chance to 'shine in her own spotlight', even though there's also a part of me that feels that Spidey and MJ go hand-in-hand.

Re: the "Face it, tiger, you just hit the jackpot" line, I've never read any of the old Spidey comics, but nevertheless find myself scratching my head when it comes to why/how such an iconic character like MJ could have ever been portrayed as a snobby elitist (which is definitely what that line implies, if not outrightly conveys), and would be rather disappointed if that's the route they chose to take with the character. I'd much prefer to see an MJ - regardless of if/when she's introduced - who is more like her Ultimate counterpart or her counterpart from FOX's old 1994 Spidey cartoon (which is actually my second-favorite version of the character), or even her Raimi-verse counterpart (as played by Dunst, who, IMO, wasn't as bad a choice as people seem to think).
 
Re: the "Face it, tiger, you just hit the jackpot" line, I've never read any of the old Spidey comics, but nevertheless find myself scratching my head when it comes to why/how such an iconic character like MJ could have ever been portrayed as a snobby elitist (which is definitely what that line implies, if not outrightly conveys), and would be rather disappointed if that's the route they chose to take with the character.

More than fourty years of character development can do that to a character.
 
I'm fine with no MJ. I want this to go back to the way they did it with the first two films. They focused on less characters. SM3 was convulted as it was with all those love triangles among other things. We don't need to see it again in this reboot film.

Focusing it on Gwen and Peter is fine. Having one villain is fine. This is a great direction so far. It's better to keep things less with Spider-Man. That means more character development.
 
:up:

I kind of hope they go the TSSM route and have Gwen trying to win over Peter but clueless Parker has no idea she likes him.
 

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