The Matrix Resurrections

I don't see how a diverse cast is considered woke, but that's me. I think people usually get upset when an established character changes race/motivation/characterization. When it's a new series with characters made this way from the beginning, I don't see why anyone would complain about any of that. But hey... I see why you could say it's considered "woke" but it's done very well and doesn't feel overtly pushed like some things are. It feels more organic I suppose.
 
No, they wouldn't. Because it's subtle. Most people didn't even think about it when they watched Matrix and they only know it because they read about it somewhere.

Its not subtle, i dont know what you watch but even back in the day it was pretty clear.
But it helps get the point across.

You dont have the incel boys screaming and making 25325 bad youtube videos about it, so of course you think it was just subtle.

I mean did it really not occur to you that there is a reason why many LGBT or Gender fluid people were flocking to Matrix that much?

Im surprised that a certain group of people hasnt picked up on Matrix way earlier, given how not so subtle the messages are.
 
Its not subtle, i dont know what you watch but even back in the day it was pretty clear.
But it helps get the point across.

You dont have the incel boys screaming and making 25325 bad youtube videos about it, so of course you think it was just subtle.

I mean did it really not occur to you that there is a reason why many LGBT or Gender fluid people were flocking to Matrix that much?

Im surprised that a certain group of people hasnt picked up on Matrix way earlier, given how not so subtle the messages are.

Weird that most people who discover Matrix now, never even talk about that,it's almost like if it subtle enough that they didn't notice it. Because the idea is there, but it's not emphasized in any way.
 
No, they wouldn't. Because it's subtle. Most people didn't even think about it when they watched Matrix and they only know it because they read about it somewhere.
Yes. That’s how anti-woke people learn to whine. They read about it in the internet.
 
Because Matrix wokeness was subtle, that's the difference.

There's absolutely nothing subtle about any of the Matrix films. I love them, but they go very on the nose with every theme they touch on. The Jesus thing is laid on very thick, for starters. That also doesn't make it an explicitly "Christian" film.

No, they wouldn't. Because it's subtle. Most people didn't even think about it when they watched Matrix and they only know it because they read about it somewhere.

We currently live in a hyper-political time where everyone is primed to read media through that lens. The movie cannot change that. It's not 1999.

I've seen the Matrix as many things, I think even Lana Wachowski said she wants people to view the films and think whatever they want to about them, she's just glad people are still talking about them. I can see how it could be a trans-inspired story, just as I could see it being a more Christian inspired story, which I dig.

I agree with this. While I of course don't have any problem with a filmmaker putting messages into their art, I can agree that something like The Matrix plays with such big and universal concepts that it should be left open to some interpretation for the audience. This is a difference between Lana and Lily where I side with Lana. Lily comes right out and says that it's a trans allegory, while Lana leans more towards allowing people to have their own interpretations. Both are valid perspectives, but I think this is the better way to approach the audience when you're dealing with a big piece of pop culture entertainment like The Matrix. That's why I'm not too concerned about this being a "woke film" as if that's all there is to it. My read on this film is that it's going to be a love story first and foremost and I'm here for that.
 


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Yikes IGN.
 
67% with 45 reviews now. It could be worse tbh.

Wow, those came in fast. Yeah, that's not too bad honestly. Thought it might be going more into Revolutions territory. That's better than I was expecting for a Wachowski film in 2021.

Still pumped as hell to experience this and don't really care about critical reception for a movie like this.
 
Like I said, give me a mixed review Matrix sequel. Make this interesting.

As for the message of the original and fan complaints, well, you have Star Trek "fans" complaining about Star Trek being "woke". I mean, you have Matrix imagery being co-opted by the alt right, which I know the Wachowskis object to.
 
Reviews talking about being too nostalgia driven have me worried.
 

Haven't seen either film, but I absolutely love this comparison of Spider-Man NWH represents vs. what The Matrix Resurrections is going for.

One is a safe plastic monument to the solipsism of today’s studio cinema; an orgiastic celebration of how studio filmmaking has created a feedback loop so powerful that it’s programmed audiences to reject anything that threatens its perfection (and to clap like seals for anything that reaffirms it, even if that means cheering for the “unexpected” return of heroes and villains they were once eager to leave behind). The other is a jagged little red pill of a blockbuster that exhumes its intellectual property with such a pronounced sense of déjà vu that the comforts of its memory start to feel like the bars of a cage, and the perfect circle of its feedback loop blurs into a particle accelerator spinning faster and faster in order to create something new and romantic. One is a crowd-pleasing testament to the idea that even (or especially) the biggest fictions can shrink our imaginations. The other is a fun, ultra-sincere, galaxy brain reminder that we can only break free of the stories that make our lives smaller by seeing through the binaries that hold them in place — us vs. them, real vs. fake, corporate product vs. personal art, reboot vs. rebirth, etc. vs. etc.

Btw, before anyone throws tomatoes at me, I enjoy me some fan-service as much as the next person, I've passionately defended Ghostbusters: Afterlife because I think it's a wonderful little movie, so it's not that I don't think it has its place. The world can be a cold and harsh place (especially these days), and sometimes nostalgia and heroes from the past can be a nice warm blanket we can take some comfort in. And I'm definitely looking forward to seeing No Way Home, especially after seeing the response it's getting.

But at the same time, I think we've reached a point where it's becoming more and more glaringly apparent that we are lacking a little more imagination and daringness in our blockbusters in such a corporate IP-driven world, which is exactly why the news of a Wachowski doing another Matrix film was music to my ears when it was announced 2 years ago.
 
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