The Mentalist on CBS

[cyclone]

Well, someone showed it.... I'm in the UK and I 'obtained' it. So someone aired it somewhere!

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

can you give us a website to watch it? It's not on CBS.com, which sucks!

 

[cyclone]

I download them via torrents.... I could provide a link, but not sure the Hype admins would appreciate it!

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

fine.....could anyone provide a LEGAL link to a site that showed last nights mentalist?

 

[Dr.]

fine.....could anyone provide a LEGAL link to a site that showed last nights mentalist?

The Canadian network that carries The Mentalist normally has episodes available for streaming the day after broadcast. And to my surprise, “Fire and Brimstone” was up this morning (even though it was a repeat last night). I got about 5/6 through it when an error message informed me that the content was no longer available. Methinks CBS has pulled the plug on all legal venues. (I resorted to other means to catch the last 1/6. )

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

of course....

 

[Dark Raven]

So still not sure who Red john is. Seems they still won't reveal his identity next episode. But it doesn't seem to be Stiles or Haffner unless there's another twist with the three dots.

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

dang preview spoilers.....

 

[Dark Raven]

So is Bertram Red John? Because it isn't Reed Smith. Bertram is the only one of the 7 suspect still at large unless somehow Partridge is alive.

I find it silly that Cho didn't actually check the body to see if it was him but only his left shoulder.

But Bertram did kill that bartender. Not that that makes him Red John.

And why didn't they ask to see that FBI's shoulder? Are they just going to believe him?

 

[Webfoot Hero]

So is Bertram Red John? Because it isn't Reed Smith. Bertram is the only one of the 7 suspect still at large unless somehow Partridge is alive.

I find it silly that Cho didn't actually check the body to see if it was him but only his left shoulder.

But Bertram did kill that bartender. Not that that makes him Red John.

And why didn't they ask to see that FBI's shoulder? Are they just going to believe him?

I don't believe Bertram will be Red John. Even if he is, they're still going to have to take down the Blake Association since they were seemingly protecting Red John. Plus, I still think Visualize is going to end up playing a part somehow.

 

[Dark Raven]

In the preview for next week's episode, I have trouble believing that Bertram can affect that high-pitched Red John voice (which sounds more like Patrick Jane to be honest). Looks like they'll have a stand off in that church.

Hopefully they'll address what happened at Jane's home before the explosion. We heard a shot but don't know what happened. How did 3 of the 6 people manage to survive while the other 3 died? Are the others actually dead? We just saw a dismembered foot.

Maybe the Blake Association won't be immediately taken down and they'll deal with that in the aftermath. It seems like it could be a lengthy process potentially.

It seems a little too obvious at the moment that Bertram is RJ. There has to be another twist. But will Partridge be the twist since people have been expecting him anyway?

 

[Dark Raven]

Apparently the Mentalist will jump 2 years ahead after the conclusion of the Red John story, the team will be scattered all over the place and the format of the show will change dramatically.

'Mentalist' wraps its brain around Red John story

http://www.usatoday.com/story/life/tv/2013/11/20/cbs-the-mentalist-red-john-feature/3651455/

The central driving plot will be solved and the series will jump ahead.


Since CBS drama The Mentalist began in 2008, California Bureau of Investigation consultant Patrick Jane (Simon Baker) has been fixated on finding Red John, the serial killer who murdered his wife and daughter. On Sunday (10 p.m. ET/PT), he gets his wish.

Although the Red John story has been central to Jane's character and the series, creator Bruno Heller wanted to bring it to a conclusion before the show's own ending in order to examine how its resolution would affect Jane. In the Dec. 1 episode, the sixth-season drama will jump ahead two years to look at Jane and his CBI colleagues in the aftermath of Red John and the dissolution of the law-enforcement agency.

The Red John story "has been the anchor of the show and, when I say anchor, I mean it in both senses of the word," Heller says. "It's been an absolutely necessary (device for) stability,but it's also been something that has held Jane in thrall and made him a darker and more driven and more ambivalent character than he would be otherwise. Now that anchor has slipped its moorings," he says. "We wanted to see what Jane is like without this burden," and the mentalist is definitely "happier" and "free to think about what to do with the rest of his life." Even love is a possibility.

Australian actor Simon Baker, who plays Jane, calls the decision to end the Red John story and jump ahead in time "a bold and risky thing to do," especially during the middle of a season. "I think that makes it fun and interesting."

Viewers have gotten to play along, as Jane has been whittling down a suspect list that started at seven. Last week, the focus shifted to CBI director Gale Bertram (Michael Gaston), the subject of an intense manhunt as tonight's episode opens.

"I thought the list was a great idea," Baker says. "For the first time, there was something tangible. It's just a process of elimination in some way or another. After vamping for so long and giving tidbits of information and then (having) fantastical theories all over the place, to then have something that tangible was very clever."

That solution to the murder mystery comes as the CBI Sacramento office is dismantled, after the discovery that it has been infiltrated by a corrupt secret society of California law enforcement officials that includes the serial killer.

"It was really strange to shoot all of that stuff. It felt enormously like we were at the end. That set is gone. We've got a completely new set now," Baker says. Combined with the Red John conclusion, "It's very clear that we're striking the whole thing and starting again."

CBS supported Heller's proposal to end the Red John story, which has been so central that the color, in various forms, has been woven into episode titles throughout its run.

"In Bruno's version, we realize Patrick Jane is bigger than Red John," says Glenn Geller, CBS' current-programming chief . "There's much more to the story of The Mentalist than just the hunt for Red John. We really get to see the aftermath and what happens to Jane."

When The Mentalist jumps ahead, the former CBI team members will be scattered, with Lisbon in San Francisco, Rigsby and Van Pelt in northern California and Cho in Austin, the home base of the FBI agent (Rockmond Dunbar, who will become a series regular) assigned to shut down the CBI. Jane is out of the country.

Jane "wants nothing to do with his old life at all. (Lisbon) has made a new life for herself, (but) after two years she finds she's thinking about Jane all the time." Heller says. Their investigations will continue but in "a world of higher stakes and bigger strategies. They won't just be solving crimes in California."

Baker, who directs the Dec. 1 episode, says viewers will see changes in Jane. "It's a coming of age in a way," he says. "It redefines the relationship between Jane and Lisbon (Robin Tunney) in a real and adult way."

No decision has been made regarding The Mentalist's future beyond this season — ratings are down, and CBS needs slots to launch new series — but Baker and Heller say there are plenty of stories to tell in the post-Red John era.

"I think that is going to fall on our writers, if they can come up with stuff that's interesting and if we continue to move forward. That's a challenge. I think they're pretty keen to meet that challenge," Baker says. "We'll give it our best shot."

 

[Donut]

I am guessing that this is the fall finale ?

 

[Dark Raven]

I don't know. Dec 1st is only one week after the conclusion of the Red John story. If they were going to take a break, then the end of RJ would've been the logical place to take it and resume in the new year with the time jump. So maybe it goes on beyond Dec 1 for a week or two more?

Edit: I see there is another episode on Dec 8.

 

[Donut]

The end of Red John would definitely be the ideal time for a break & let the fans breathe a bit before the new direction

 

[Webfoot Hero]

I'm not so sure about the idea to jump 2 years into the future, especially in mid-season. I just don't see how the show works without the driving force of Red John. After 6 seasons, I'm sure this could easily be the last season.

 

[Dark Raven]

I'm not so sure about the idea to jump 2 years into the future, especially in mid-season. I just don't see how the show works without the driving force of Red John. After 6 seasons, I'm sure this could easily be the last season.

Well not all the episodes were always about Red John, so I imagine some of them would be a bit similar to that.

But from the article above it sounds almost like it's a kind of reboot.

I do think Red John should've been the mid season finale though. Just having one week between that and the next episode where it's set 2 years in the future is a bit too much of a jump. If people had a break for a few weeks and it resumed in the New Year, it feels more like time has passed and it's more acceptable.

Of course, Alias also did a 2-year time jump but that was from the end of one season to the next rather than mid season.

 

[Webfoot Hero]

Well not all the episodes were always about Red John, so I imagine some of them would be a bit similar to that.

But from the article above it sounds almost like it's a kind of reboot.

I do think Red John should've been the mid season finale though. Just having one week between that and the next episode where it's set 2 years in the future is a bit too much of a jump. If people had a break for a few weeks and it resumed in the New Year, it feels more like time has passed and it's more acceptable.

Of course, Alias also did a 2-year time jump but that was from the end of one season to the next rather than mid season.

I really can't think of another show that's jumped a couple years mid-season. It'll be interesting to see how they pull it off.

 

[cyclone]

Red John reveal leaked.....

Spoiler

It is indeed Sheriff McAllister.

Lame.

 

[lime]

Red John reveal leaked.....

Spoiler

It is indeed Sheriff McAllister.

Lame.

True of false? Source?

 

[Webfoot Hero]

True of false? Source?

Considering the bodies weren't actually shown to be confirmed as who they thought they were, it could easily be him.

 

[cyclone]

True of false? Source?

Well, CBS had it on a press site, someone figured out how to rip it from there, and the rest is history. I've got a copy myself, so I'm happy to answer any questions.

There's debate about if it's legit, or if it's cobbled together with scenes shot as extra in order to keep the Sunday episode a secret. That being said, this episode is the one that press have been sent to reviewed as confirmed by SpoilerTV, so I doubt it's a fake. Which is a letdown.

 

[Joshua_B]

Well, I just finished watching the "Red John" episode a few minutes ago, and it was an interesting tale for sure. I really hope Bruno Heller's not pulling one huge con, since next week's episode is set 2 years after this one.

 

[BlackMagicWolf]

I did not know who Red John was going into this episode and I'm glad I didn't. The reveal of McAllister was great and well done, and how it tied into everything we knew about the Blake Association and other things about RJ was another nice touch.

The scene where Jane killed RJ was beautifully shot. Focusing on Jane and his struggle as he squeezed his neck. Wonderful.

Not sure how it'll go from here, I know about the jump but honestly it could've ended here. Maybe on episode as an epilogue, tie up loose ends, but "A New Beginning"? Not so sure.

 

[Anubis]

Might wanna spoiler that s**t up a bit.

Not that I care. I came here specifically to be spoiled.