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OOPS! Bloomberg is adamantly Pro-Choice, not pro-life. My bad.
With McCain as the candidate for the GOP - there is no way Bloomberg can enter this election.
He has no base to appeal to.
Id question that.
Look how tight Florida was..,wheres the base that McCain appeals to?
I'm not sure about that Norman. While he is socially liberal and also pro-war, he is also very fiscally conservative and can play that to his advantage.
The left-leaning Republicans who want to vote for anyone but Clinton or Obama, the Republicans who support the war in Iraq, the Republicans who support McCain's immigration policy...
Basically, Republicans who like McCain are McCain's base.
You think his base is the "blind party allegiance crowd"?
For a man who doesn't practice blind party allegiance himself?...
(one of the few things I actually like about McCain)
As for the "Republicans taking back their party " quote-The turnout for Super Tuesday would say different.
Ok but,Republican conservatives are the traditional 'base'.
Again,There is no 'Base' for McCain.
If you want to say he creates his own base"People who like McCain and would vote for McCain",..have at it.Taking back the party and recreating the party are two different things.
Im pretty sure StorminNormin meant the traditional meaning of the phrase 'base' when he said it.
You misread what I said. I said the party was hijacked by Christian Conservatives, and it has been under their control for the past eight years. The last real Republican who received his party's nomination for President was Bob Dole.
Republicans support limited government, lower taxes, and a strong national defense, among other things. They don't support tacking the Bible on to the Bill of Rights, going to the border and shooting illegal immigrants, or oppressing homosexuals solely on the merit of religious beliefs. Certainly, religion has played a role in Presidential administrations, but Christian voters have not been the sole target demographic of the Republican Party until recently. Catering to one demographic doesn't work alone (the fact that Bush was a strong Christian didn't get him elected; it was his status as a strong leader). John McCain is bringing the party back to where it was in the 1980s and 1990s-- and that's where the true base of the party lies.
Making a play for the 80's base of consevatives by painting yourself as the "Reagan candidate" and at the same time trying to spin it as if "Reagan wasnt all that Conservative anyway"..It defies logic itself.
You brought up Christian conservatives as Bush's base.But he makes appeals to them as well.Claiming that somehow all the sneak attack, black baby, Karl Rove bs was somehow the fault of his own campaign.
I give him the credit for being able to scrape up voters outside the traditional base but,he cant keep reconfiguring himself as a different McCain of 2000.My memory is still good.
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When you have to keep reminding your own party that you are a republican something isnt right.
What an incredible waste of money it would be if he ran.
What's $500 million of your own money if you have $11.5 billion anyway?
An incredible waste of money.
I think Michael Bloomberg needs to take a page from ole' JLU Lex Luthor's handbook: "President? Do you know how much power I'd have to give up to be President?"
I'm not sure about that Norman. While he is socially liberal and also pro-war, he is also very fiscally conservative and can play that to his advantage.
Bloomberg: I won't Run
NEW YORK - After two years of playing coy about his presidential ambitions, Mayor Michael Bloomberg declared in a newspaper editorial Wednesday that he will not run for president as an independent and said he might support the candidate who "takes an independent, nonpartisan approach."
The 66-year-old billionaire businessman, who aides had said was prepared to spend $1 billion on his own independent campaign, wrote in an opinion column posted on the New York Times' Web site that he will be working to "steer the national conversation away from partisanship and toward unity; away from ideology and toward common sense; away from sound bites and toward substance."
Bloomberg, who has almost two years left in his second term at City Hall, had publicly denied any interest in running for president since one of his political advisers first planted the seed more than two years ago.
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But his denials grew weaker in recent months as aides and supporters quietly began laying the groundwork for a third-party campaign.
"I listened carefully to those who encouraged me to run, but I am not — and will not be — a candidate for president," he wrote.
Among his biggest obstacles was getting on the ballot, a process that varies wildly from state to state and would have required him to obtain hundreds of thousands of signatures according to a timetable on which the first key date is March 5.
Bloomberg did not say why he had decided not to run and was critical of the Republican and Democratic contenders, saying they appeared afraid to "level with" voters on many important issues such as trade, the environment and immigration.
"I believe that an independent approach to these issues is essential to governing our nation and that an independent can win the presidency," he wrote. "I have watched this campaign unfold, and I am hopeful that the current campaigns can rise to the challenge by offering truly independent leadership.