The Naive College Student

[Road Warrior]

Based on my experience, there's two types of college students. There's the one who works hard to get their degree but also does stuff on the side like internships and paying jobs related to their field. Then there's the one that only focuses on their school work. I find the latter to be very naive. They don't know what they're talking about half the time and expect an entry-level position to fall on their lap upon graduation. I feel bad for them, especially in this economy. Anyone agree?

 

[SuperFerret]

Wouldn't internships and related jobs be considered focusing on their education?

 

[enterthemadness]

Based on my experience, there's two types of college students. There's the one who works hard to get their degree but also does stuff on the side like internships and paying jobs related to their field. Then there's the one that only focuses on their school work. I find the latter to be very naive. They don't know what they're talking about half the time and expect an entry-level position to fall on their lap upon graduation. I feel bad for them, especially in this economy. Anyone agree?

Sometimes it is best to focus on school. But a job during that time is also good for many reasons.

 

[deathshead2]

Not everyone can get a job or internship in this climate.

While it is good experience to do one or both of those in school its not naive to not want to do them. Only naive thing is thinking you'll get a big jop right out the gate. Just like its naive thinking you'll get a job thinking you got straight As, internered, and had a job while in school. In fact I think thats more naive. Thinking you did all that and will get a job over anyone else.

 

[Road Warrior]

Wouldn't internships and related jobs be considered focusing on their education?

Yes, but it's also getting experience. Someone who doesn't do those things are just relying on plain ol' knowledge.

Sometimes it is best to focus on school. But a job during that time is also good for many reasons.

Internships and jobs are good for a number of reasons. First, there's the experience you'll get out of it. Then, there's the connections that you'll make. Finally, you'll know for sure if this is really what you want to do. It's one thing to say that you want to be cop, but it's another to have bullets flying in your direction.

 

[Manic]

A real naive college student is one who majors in a purely academic field that they have no interest of teaching in the future. You know, like Art History or Philosophy.

 

[deathshead2]

I know some people just going to school so they can be away from the rents and smoke more pot and drink more.

 

[Catman]

A real naive college student is one who majors in a purely academic field that they have no interest of teaching in the future. You know, like Art History or Philosophy.

or liberal arts

 

[chaseter]

A real naive college student is one who majors in a purely academic field that they have no interest of teaching in the future. You know, like Art History or Philosophy.

I laugh at kids that get Zoology or Biology degrees and try to get into med school and then don't. All they can do is teach...HA.

I hate people that say they are a pre-med major. No you idiot...there is no such thing as majoring in pre-med. You don't get a degree in pre-med. I want to beat their face in.

 

[Hobgoblin]

I know some people just going to school so they can be away from the rents and smoke more pot and drink more.

Thats what I would call a real "naive student."

I was the kind of student that didnt go out of his way to get internships (I did have one, though, as advised by a prof). I was just the very introverted type. Heck I even ate alone. Looking back I wish I had done some more to improve my academic record but I'm still not the out going type.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

I know some people just going to school so they can be away from the rents and smoke more pot and drink more.

Dude, that's like 90 % of the reason most people go to college.

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

I find real naive college students are the ones that record a cop tasering some meth head who's highly resisting the cops repeated attempts to get the guy to put his clothes back on, and then saying, "We'll put it on YouTube, and the whole world will see you torturing this guy."

 

[Darthphere]

I think most college students are naive in the sense that they think a degree=$$$$ when most of the time, you'll be the most overqualified burger flipper in the history of the Sheboigan, New Jersey McDonalds.

 

[Kelly]

The only truly naive college student I've met is the one who thinks they can study with as little effort in college as they did in high school. RUDE AWAKENING...

 

[amazingfantasy15]

Based on my experience, there's two types of college students. There's the one who works hard to get their degree but also does stuff on the side like internships and paying jobs related to their field. Then there's the one that only focuses on their school work. I find the latter to be very naive. They don't know what they're talking about half the time and expect an entry-level position to fall on their lap upon graduation. I feel bad for them, especially in this economy. Anyone agree?

Internships and jobs related to your field are great, however, many colleges are in small towns where there's little opportunity to get those jobs in the field. My major was graphic design and the city my college was in had maybe 5 small places, I don't think any ever hired interns.

 

[Prison Mike]

I laugh at kids that get Zoology or Biology degrees and try to get into med school and then don't. All they can do is teach...HA.

I hate people that say they are a pre-med major. No you idiot...there is no such thing as majoring in pre-med. You don't get a degree in pre-med. I want to beat their face in.

Actually, my school does have a pre-med major. And for those with a biology degree who don't end up in med school, well they can always get a research position in the mean time and apply for med school the following year...

 

[Anita18]

Actually, my school does have a pre-med major. And for those with a biology degree who don't end up in med school, well they can always get a research position in the mean time and apply for med school the following year...

Well, a "pre-med major" is dumb because med schools don't care if you majored in a science, let alone "pre-med." I know English majors who went to med school. You just need to take the prerequisite classes and ace the MCAT.

And a "pre-med major" is even MORE useless if you don't pull off all A's, because that's what is basically required to get into med school now. If you get a B/C average with a pre-med major, you're left with 4 years of absolutely bupkiss to show for your tuition and work.

 

[Spider-Who?]

I think its more naive to call a group of people naive based on generalizations that you're not really unbiased enough to make such a claim. Especially when there are other groups of college kids who fit the bill of naive MUCH better.

I went to college. Did reasonably well, academically speaking. I did not do a single internship, and only worked intermittently while there. I had roommates who worked/studied their asses off, got better grades, and took as many internships as possible. And yet, upon graduation, I was the first to get a job in my field inside of three months; I was offered one on graduation day. And as far as I know, I'm the only one of that group of friends/roommates to STILL be working in the field I studied.

I'm not relaying this to toot my own horn, just to show that the logic of the original post is not absolute.

 

[8Diagrams(WU)]

The most naive university student is the one that thinks he/she can get by by using/networking with others to get everything done with them. These people actually think they are smarter because they dont have to put in as much effort, but the truth is that they arent actually learning anything and their degree is worthless.

 

[Sarge 2.0]

Er, there's a difference between "passing fine" and actually doing well.

 

[wiegeabo]

I see a few types of naive college students.

There are the obvious ones. College is a party, not something to prepare you for life. They don't get the idea that partying for 4+ years gets you working your ass off for 40+ years, whereas working your ass off for 4+ years , means you get to party for 40+ (you get what I mean).


Then there are those who get the purely academic degrees. Now, they might not really be naive at all. If they actually do love English Lit, or philosophy, or whatever it is, and they plan to teach it or write or research...then good for them. They can make a career of it. But many students who get that type of degree just because they love the subject would be better served by just getting a minor in it (or double major), and majoring in something more marketable so they can actually eat.


Then there are the not obvious ones. They actually do take school work and the college experience seriously. As a stepping stone to prepare for the real world. But they neglect to get work experience related to their field in somewhere. And while not always necessary to do so. They also don't start looking for jobs at least 6 months before graduation to try and get something lined up, nor do they try to tailor their classes to a career as early as possible. They just assume that a degree = job once they graduate.

I was semi-naive in this last case because I didn't start looking until my last semester. Luckily everything worked out well job-wise.

 

[Kelly]

i actually made no effort in university and passed fine. We did papers together the night before they were due.

er, there's a difference between "passing fine" and actually doing well.

qft...

 

[Kelly]

I got the second highest grade possible....passed just fine.

What does this even mean????? what was your GPA?

 

[LouFerignoDemon]

Er, there's a difference between "passing fine" and actually doing well.

Yep, it's called getting hired for a great job.

 

[Prison Mike]

Well, a "pre-med major" is dumb because med schools don't care if you majored in a science, let alone "pre-med." I know English majors who went to med school. You just need to take the prerequisite classes and ace the MCAT.

And a "pre-med major" is even MORE useless if you don't pull off all A's, because that's what is basically required to get into med school now. If you get a B/C average with a pre-med major, you're left with 4 years of absolutely bupkiss to show for your tuition and work.

I agree with you. That's basically the reason I didn't pursue a "pre-med" major. I didn't major in a science-related field but I am planning on applying to med school.