Homecoming The Next Spider-Man - - - - - Part 14

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[RivenSky]

Or perhaps.....some people who post on the internet for profit will say anything to get people to click on to their site.

This is ALWAYS my first assumption.

 

[harryoscop]

@C.Lee I don't that is the case here. Sneider has had a pretty good track record in the past.

 

[Mumei]

RE: Liam James

In this picture, I actually thought he looked the oldest of any of them. I think it's because he has such a strong jaw, but when I first saw the article I assumed he was in his early 20s. Asa and Holland seem the most believable as 15 year olds (honestly, Holland might be able to pull off 13 or 14 and I don't think I'd bat an eye).

@C.Lee I don't that is the case here. Sneider has had a pretty good track record in the past.

What are you basing this on?

 

[harryoscop]

RE: Liam James

In this picture, I actually thought he looked the oldest of any of them. I think it's because he has such a strong jaw, but when I first saw the article I assumed he was in his early 20s. Asa and Holland seem the most believable as 15 year olds (honestly, Holland might be able to pull off 13 or 14 and I don't think I'd bat an eye).



What are you basing this on?

His past scoops.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

@C.Lee I don't that is the case here. Sneider has had a pretty good track record in the past.

but very recently he's said things in particular about spiderman that in my opinion gives him less merit.

 

[Talion]

Or perhaps.....some people who post on the internet for profit will say anything to get people to click on to their site.

I've been in contact with some of these people that work in the movie business for some weeks, and I'd beg to differ, it's a lot more complex than that. Yes they work with this and want to make money out of this, but they do KNOW about stuff. If you see someone like redditleaker dude keeps saying that Dylan O'Brien will be Spider-Man, and he is doing on reddit. Eventually anyone will believe on him anymore, so why he did it, if not for the money? I'd say it's for the attention.

What I think it's more tacky and a serious case of poor management are actors with rabid fanbases keeping false hopes for things that aren't happening. I don't know if the Dylan O'Brien fans understand this - and they are even a lot worse outside here than they are here - but the way they act around their idol is turning a LOT people off. For every case of occasional supporter that they can get, you can be sure that the Streisand effect is going rampant. I seriously can't see myself checking any of his stuff anymore at least until the heat calms down. That's a lot more tacky than the scoopers imho, and it's ALSO about money and getting free publicity.

 

[harryoscop]

but very recently he's said things in particular about spiderman that in my opinion gives him less merit.

Yeah, but that wasn't suppose to be taken as a scoop... he actually printed that article into The Wrap (which is a trade site just like Variety and Deadline) I don't think he would have printed the information if it was false.

 

[Pecola1]

Lol ... It's your right to believe them Harryoscop. You can. They got things right too in the past. But remember they got many things wrong too.
But at this point it's funny. Like LR "Planet HUlk" scoop - Manganiello as Death Stroke ...

Kevin Feige said it himself, in their mind the new Peter Parker is 15 - 16 . But in term of CASTING ACTORS he doesn't know. Meaning he can be 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, ... 28 - I don't even know myself lol!

Exactly, right now pretty much any actor is likely to get the role, but the best for the role, the person who has the most popularity and will make the best PP or SM which will then make the most money/success for the franchise, is most likely.
It's like others have said, Ed Nortan was not a great choice for Hulk, that's one of the main reasons people actually say that it was a bad movie. Peopled didn't watch it because he was so disliked, which means the actor they choose holds a big decider on whether SM will be a big hit or not. But not just the actor, but the people's perception of the actor. I can tell you one thing, whether or not Marvel/Sony decide to do it, with the DOB fanbase a movie with him as spider-man would be a hit, assuming the script is done well.

(BT dubs: 14th thread already? it was less than 2 days since 13 started!)

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

Yeah, but that wasn't suppose to be taken as a scoop... he actually printed that article into The Wrap (which is a trade site just like Variety and Deadline) I don't think he would have printed the information if it was false.

I was talking about him suggesting spiderman is black. in both cases, is objective was to mislead, and he did.

 

[spider-neil]

RE: Liam James

Top row: 1, 2, 3
Bottom row: 4, 5, 6

If I am going to put them in order of who looks most like Spider-Man

5 -
6
1
3
2
4

 

[Talion]

Top row: 1, 2, 3
Bottom row: 4, 5, 6

If I am going to put them in order of who looks most like Spider-Man

5 -
6
1
2
3

For me:

5 -
1
6
3
4
"I don't want Nat Wolff, Dylan O'Brien or anyone that can't look like a 15 years old kid" number

 

[gremleytel]

I've been in contact with some of these people that work in the movie business for some weeks, and I'd beg to differ, it's a lot more complex than that. Yes they work with this and want to make money out of this, but they do KNOW about stuff. If you see someone like redditleaker dude keeps saying that Dylan O'Brien will be Spider-Man, and he is doing on reddit. Eventually anyone will believe on him anymore, so why he did it, if not for the money? I'd say it's for the attention.

What I think it's more tacky and a serious case of poor management are actors with rabid fanbases not extinguishing the flames so people that aren't exactly fans of their work but could check out eventually about stuff they KNOW that aren't happening for them, or at least that they haven't heard it yet. That's also for the money and the attention, and I'd say it's a lot worse than the movie reporters.

These people you are on about work in the movie business in the very loosest sense though. They are scoopers and gossips and rely on people traffic on their sites to get them business.
So now you are blaming Dylan O'Brien for not making yet another denial when he has already made one?
Just let people who want Dylan for the role support him if they like and stop trying to shut them down. I do not see why you have such a superior attitude about it.

 

[zizzy]

I've been in contact with some of these people that work in the movie business for some weeks, and I'd beg to differ, it's a lot more complex than that. Yes they work with this and want to make money out of this, but they do KNOW about stuff. If you see someone like redditleaker dude keeps saying that Dylan O'Brien will be Spider-Man, and he is doing on reddit. Eventually anyone will believe on him anymore, so why he did it, if not for the money? I'd say it's for the attention.

What I think it's more tacky and a serious case of poor management are actors with rabid fanbases not extinguishing the flames so people that aren't exactly fans of their work but could check out eventually about stuff they KNOW that aren't happening for them, or at least that they haven't heard it yet. That's also for the money and the attention, and I'd say it's a lot worse than the movie reporters.

I have no doubt they know about this stuff. But when it comes right down to it. It's all about the clicks. I took a Writing for the Web course and about 90% of it was how to get people to click on your stuff (via SEO, link placement, design features, attention grabbing headings, etc.). The remaining 10% was learning how to write in short paragraphs and coping with the fact that most of your audience isn't going to read what you write anyway.
The majority of all web writing (and pretty much any writing in a professional sense) is to sell you something first, whether be it an idea or a product, and anything else second.

Also, blaming actors is ridiculous. Are you suggesting that O'Brien needs to come out and say he doesn't have the part? Guess what. He's done that. Didn't work. Plus, as you said, it's getting him money and attention--it's just good business sense. As is Sneider's headline.

 

[C. Lee]

@C.Lee I don't that is the case here. Sneider has had a pretty good track record in the past.

Have you ever looked up the word naïve?

 

[Talion]

I have no doubt they know about this stuff. But when it comes right down to it. It's all about the clicks. I took a Writing for the Web course and about 90% of it was how to get people to click on your stuff (via SEO, link placement, design features, attention grabbing headings, etc.). The remaining 10% was learning how to write in short paragraphs and coping with the fact that most of your audience isn't going to read what you write anyway.
The majority of all web writing (and pretty much any writing in a professional sense) is to sell you something first, whether be it an idea or a product, and anything else second.

Also, blaming actors is ridiculous. Are you suggesting that O'Brien needs to come out and say he doesn't have the part? Guess what. He's done that. Didn't work. Plus, as you said, it's getting him money and attention--it's just good business sense. As is Sneider's headline.

I don't think it pays off in the long run. Yes he's getting attention, but their fans are also annoying the hell out of lot of people - once again, not talking necessarily here, there are places it's a lot worse - and I just think that it would work wonders for his image if he endorsed literally ANYONE for the role so this non-sense would stop or at least calm down. Because seriously, I just can't see myself watching any films with this actor in it, and while I know that's not his fault, I just can't. It's pretty much the same with Robert Pattinson.

 

[spider-neil]

For me:

5 -
1
6
3
4
"I don't want Nat Wolff, Dylan O'Brien or anyone that can't look like a 15 years old kid" number

Bet there are some people who will say '5' doesn't look like Spider-Man.

 

[harryoscop]

Have you ever looked up the word naïve?

Well, yeah. of course I know what it means. I don't believe EVERYTHING I hear.. but do think Sneider is right about them casting an 17-20 and think the five actors that he mentioned are very strong candidates.

 

[Talion]

Have you ever looked up the word naïve?

I knew about the Nat Wolff thing 14 days ago. No one here knew then, I was lucky that I've got confirmed by Sneider and other sources. I've proved how I knew it for some reliable members of the board. Sneider is legit, and he's been doing this kind of thing - and getting it right - for years now.

 

[Talion]

Bet there are some people who will say '5' doesn't look like Spider-Man.

They are cray.

 

[C. Lee]

I've been in contact with some of these people that work in the movie business

If I only had a dollar for everytime I read that on the Hype in the last 13 years.

 

[RivenSky]

I don't think it pays off in the long run. Yes he's getting attention, but their fans are also annoying the hell out of lot of people - once again, not talking necessarily here, there are places it's a lot worse - and I just think that it would work wonders for his image if he endorsed literally ANYONE for the role so this non-sense would stop or at least calm down. Because seriously, I just can't see myself watching any films with this actor in it, and while I know that's not his fault, I just can't. It's pretty much the same with Robert Pattinson.

I feel like Dylan is the type of person that would come out and say "Thank you to all my fans for your support. I am not in consideration for the role, but your excitement means the world to me" if he wasn't in consideration for the role any more.

I feel like the fact that he hasn't means he still has a chance. Even if it's 1 in a million. He can't be held responsible for his rabid fanbase.

 

[DOBSON10]

Talion making the Spider-Man thread all about him again, yay.

 

[Talion]

If I only had a dollar for everytime I read that on the Hype in the last 13 years.

I'm just a fan. I've just been extremely lucky. Have you heard one of the contenders named Timmy Chalamet? I was the one that get the scoopers in the right track. It turned out I was right and he's in the mix, and then the things started to unravel.

But it's okay if you don't want to believe me. I'm just saying what I've experienced. I can understand how many times you've heard bogus claims like this, but I do have how to prove it.