The Official "DC dosent really know what they're doing, do they?" thread

[The Question]

Even in those instances, Ollie clearly acts like an older man. Hal clearly acts like a middle-aged man looking to relive his youth and sometimes even says as much. No matter how much certain editors whose names rhyme with Fifio attempt to deny it, time does pass in the DCU through the writing and the stories in natural ways.

I can think of several instances where both Bruce Wayne and Batman have been referred to, by other characters and by himself, as an old man. And Clark Kent's work has established enough long standing credibility in the journalistic and literary worlds to be taught in college courses, which suggests that he's been in the game for quite a while.

 

[WompuM]

I thought it was pretty well established that time is slowly and yet surly passing. Especially given the new weekly format.

Wally West, Roy Harper, Tim Drake and Dick Grayson being the most prevalent examples.

 

[BrianWilly]

Every time anyone brings that up to Dan DiDio, though, he merely brushes it off with snarky jibes about how fans want Nightwing to be older than Batman.

 

[hippie_hunter]

At that point, DiDio polled the panelists, asking them if they would want his job.

Matt Sturges: “No, god, no.”

Ethan VanSciver: “Nope”

Jimmy Palmiotti: “No comment.”

Jann Jones: “If it came with a closet of designer shoes.”

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Every time anyone brings that up to Dan DiDio, though, he merely brushes it off with snarky jibes about how fans want Nightwing to be older than Batman.

That's probably why Jimmy's back to fetching Perry White's coffee in Action Comics, too.

 

[CBG]

Q: When will we see the Linda Danvers Supergirl again?

DD: This month.

Is he serious?

It's been FAR too long. . .

 

[TheCorpulent1]

As much as I liked Matrix and what little I read of Peter David's work with her, I don't think I care enough to try Supergirl again for a cameo from her/Linda.

 

[Manic]

Knowing DiDio, Linda would only come back long enough to be killed on-panel.

 

[BrianWilly]

As much as I liked Matrix and what little I read of Peter David's work with her, I don't think I care enough to try Supergirl again for a cameo from her/Linda.

Pfft, weirdo. I would eat small children in front of their parents to see a cameo from Linda. I've been seeing cameos from Linda, over in PAD's Fallen Angel, but it's not really the same.

And, really, there's no reason not to give Supergirl a try right now. Kelly Puckett has been great on the title recently. Well, apparently he's leaving soon, which is dumbtarded, but still.

And, really really, you should want Linda to come back just for the satisfaction of seeing DiDio have to rescind yet another of his many horrible decisions. It wasn't but two years ago that he declared her retconned out of existence...and yet here we are today, and of all people he's the one who has to eat his own words in public. Suck it, bald b****. Suck it hard.

I'm in a strange mood right now.

 

[fifthfiend]

Pfft, weirdo. I would eat small children in front of their parents to see a cameo from Linda. I've been seeing cameos from Linda, over in PAD's Fallen Angel, but it's not really the same.

And, really, there's no reason not to give Supergirl a try right now. Kelly Puckett has been great on the title recently. Well, apparently he's leaving soon, which is dumbtarded, but still.

And, really really, you should want Linda to come back just for the satisfaction of seeing DiDio have to rescind yet another of his many horrible decisions. It wasn't but two years ago that he declared her retconned out of existence...and yet here we are today, and of all people he's the one who has to eat his own words in public. Suck it, bald b****. Suck it hard.

I'm in a strange mood right now.

Kara's introduction / the first 20+ issues of her series are just too much of a blight for me to want to read about her again, even if she has been given the total characterization transplant that would be required to make her even hypothetically readable.

 

[BrianWilly]

She's been trying to cure cancer with Resurrection Man, which I think is a bit of a step up from ****ing Boomerang Jr. on the side.

 

[fifthfiend]

Thank you, I was just updating my list of things that make me want to kill myself, and "Kara Zor-El curing cancer" will make for a great addition.

 

[BrianWilly]

Here to help.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Pfft, weirdo. I would eat small children in front of their parents to see a cameo from Linda. I've been seeing cameos from Linda, over in PAD's Fallen Angel, but it's not really the same.

And, really, there's no reason not to give Supergirl a try right now. Kelly Puckett has been great on the title recently. Well, apparently he's leaving soon, which is dumbtarded, but still.

And, really really, you should want Linda to come back just for the satisfaction of seeing DiDio have to rescind yet another of his many horrible decisions. It wasn't but two years ago that he declared her retconned out of existence...and yet here we are today, and of all people he's the one who has to eat his own words in public. Suck it, bald b****. Suck it hard.

I'm in a strange mood right now.

You know, I think I'm just petty and spiteful enough to pick up that issue in the hopes that others'll do the same and it'll be the best-selling issue of the current Supergirl comic, forcing DiDio to realize that people like Linda more than Kara ****e-El, Take Two.

 

[fifthfiend]

I'd agree except I can't get past the suspicion that the book will be basically all Linda Danvers telling Kara Zor-El how much Kara really truly deserves to be the real one and only Supergirl and how Linda just has to admit that she basically kind of sucks. With an even chance of being followed by Manic's prediction.

Incidentally BW I borrowed those Supergirl-fights-cancer issues from a friend who loaned me his paper copies which he paid for with money and I'll grant as it's an improvement but there's still too much of KZ's obnoxious self-entitlement and Superman putting up with her **** for no discernable reason that I can't forget it's still the same character who taught me what the word "loathing" truly meant. I mean I'll grant as at this point I can at least accept that a human being within the general bounds of sanity can have tastes that differ from mine such that they would find this enjoyable, but man, this just ain't for me. Maybe if this was how the character had been originally introduced and she didn't have the preceding 20+ issues of Loeb/Kelly-induced ****tacularity piled up behind her, I dunno.

The part where Wonder Woman punched her in the face was pretty good though. If they did that like, four or 12 times an issue, I could totally get into that.

 

[CBG]

DiDio said Linda was retconned out of existence.

Johns said she isn't.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

The part where Wonder Woman punched her in the face was pretty good though. If they did that like, four or 12 times an issue, I could totally get into that.

Sounds like a winning formula for a Kara Zor-El comic to me. Maybe they could copy it for Teen Titans and whatever series Hawkgirl happens to appear in every month, too.

 

[fifthfiend]

Really they should just recast Kara as the blonde girl on The View who's there so everybody else has someone they can tell to shut the **** up.

 

[The Batman]

I kinda wish supergirl would be a combination of linda and kara....lindas a good character, but frankly, her background is confusing as hell...kara haqs the iconic background, but has been saddled with a ****ty personality....

i wouldve retconned things so that the two versions could fit...

 

[The Question]

I wish they hadn't retconned Kara out of existence after the Crisis and simply had Clark be the last living Kryptonian because Kara died in the crisis, then had Matrix/Linda step in as the new Supergirl. Would have been a hell of a lot simpler.

 

[The Batman]

I wish they hadn't retconned Kara out of existence after the Crisis and simply had Clark be the last living Kryptonian because Kara died in the crisis, then had Matrix/Linda step in as the new Supergirl. Would have been a hell of a lot simpler.

that works even better...its odd seeing the original supergirl as a 16 year old while the original batgirls a twenty something in a wheelchair

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Kara's not the original Supergirl, though. Their only similarity, really, is the name. Even the circumstances by which post-IC Kara came to Earth are different.

 

[BrianWilly]

The Beat: DiDio not going anywhere

 

[BrianWilly]

And here

DAN HAS A PLAN

Last week, the internet seemed to get itself in quite the lather about the possibility of Paul Levitz firing Dan DiDio, Senior Vice President - Executive Editor, DC Universe and replacing him. Based on nothing but fan discontent based on message board postings, this wishful thinking was whipped around the internet long enough until people convinced themselves that it was going to happen, even reaching outside of the fan community.

But if wishes were horses, genies would ride.

1) The oft-mentioned Jimmy Palmiotti is a very good friend of Dan DiDio, has been for years, and is unlikely to take his best mate's job.

2) If it was down to Paul Levitz, Dan would probably not have been appointed to his current role in the first place.

And 3) I've been told that Warner are so happy with Dan DiDio's overall performance and plan for the future that they have renewed Dan's contract, due to expire in September, for a number of years.

This isn't the first time the internet has called for Dan's head and whipped themselves into believing that a message board post was the equivalent of a shareholders' report, only for reality to bite them in the arse. I wrote something very similar this time last year and was accused of being a DC stooge. I was right then, looks like I'm right now. Look forward to the same thing come June 2009.

It is true that there has been creative, editorial and suit divides at DC over DiDio's actions of late. Jim Shooter quit “Legion" (though leaving enough scripts so that no one will notice for quite some time). Grant Morrison has spoken out as to editorial incompetence over the "Countdown" series and spinoffs. Chuck Dixon has put the reason he was told his "services were no longer required" down at Dan's feet. And I hear a number of stories from senior creative sources as to how frustrating their approaches to Dan have gone - he's so flip floppy he makes John Kerry look like Ian Paisley. “Countdown" assistant editor Jeanine Schaefer's resignation and move to Marvel is seen as a junior vote of no confidence.

And yes, there was an emergency senior editorial meeting held last week... who knows what answers it will provide? It is likely that there is some editorial shakeup in the works.

But as of now, for the foreseeable future, Dan is still The Man.

 

[Hush]

well that just sucks big fat nuts.