The Official Flash thread

[The Geek Vault]

I think the whole point of flash: Rebirth though is that he's not SUPOSSED to be back. That he doesn't know why he's back.

 

[Anubis]

And yet, he's back.

 

[Darthphere]

Back in Black.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Yet he refuses to hit the sack. Too many criminals to catch 'cause that ***** ex-sidekick of his was too soft on 'em.

 

[UK_Stu]

I'm still glad he's back, though I haven't been overwhelmed by rebirth yet

 

[Spike_x1]

Just when I was going to drop Rebirth, I turn to the last page of #2 to find that Barry's the Black Flash. For a second, I was worried that I would have to buy the next one to find out what happens, but then I realized that I can save myself the cash and just keep an eye on this thread to see what happens next.

Having said that, I don't particularly dislike Barry himself, but like Hal Jordan, Barry was a better character when he was dead. He gave his successor something to aspire to and made the Flash mantle into the only one I can think of in comics that had been successfully passed onto the former sidekick. And now it's kind of hard to say that the torch had been passed from Barry to Wally when we see that Barry is still holding that torch. Now Barry's place in the DCU just seems redundant, and the tacked on tragic backstory is such an obvious gimmick to garner interest in the character that I'm honestly surprised that Johns stooped to that.

 

[Tron Bonne]

http://www.newsarama.com/comics/090520-diamond-sales-charts.html

I guess those who are dissatisfied or care at all about the situation are pretty much in the small minority here. And look what's right below it

 

[WompuM]

Hmm... Detective 853. Was that the Niel Gaiman issue?

 

[Anubis]

Well, the thing about the diamond list you have to remember is that that is ranked by the amount of issues stores buy. So, the only way to really know how it's selling is to go into your comic shop and see how many issues of Rebirth is just sitting there on the shelf like s**t on the street.

 

[BlackLantern]

Well, the thing about the diamond list you have to remember is that that is ranked by the amount of issues stores buy. So, the only way to really know how it's selling is to go into your comic shop and see how many issues of Rebirth is just sitting there on the shelf like s**t on the street.

None in the two shops I frequent...they are gone day of release and both stores have orders in for more copies

 

[Ion Kenshin]

Yea they sell out at my shop

 

[yenaled]

Honestly, they don't come close to selling out at my place, they keep heavily pushing it at the till when you go there.

 

[Ion Kenshin]

Flash Question: when was the whole concept of the speed force introduce before or after CoIE? Was it always known about etc?

 

[Tron Bonne]

Well, the thing about the diamond list you have to remember is that that is ranked by the amount of issues stores buy. So, the only way to really know how it's selling is to go into your comic shop and see how many issues of Rebirth is just sitting there on the shelf like s**t on the street.

Yeah, I know, but still number two on the charts is still something. I mean if the 2nd issue comes out lower it'll be a good sign, but that's still a lot of ordered issues for shops. Plus, I can't go by my shop, it's so small, he rarely sells out of 1st printings of anything. He even had a few Obama ASM covered issues for quite awhile until some Obama fanatics who were searching stumbled in a few weeks after it hit the stands

Hmm... Detective 853. Was that the Niel Gaiman issue?

Yes, it was

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Flash Question: when was the whole concept of the speed force introduce before or after CoIE? Was it always known about etc?

It was introduced during Mark Waid's run, long after CoIE. Mid '90s, I think. Max Mercury and Savitar were retconned into the past as always having known about the Speed Force, though, so the SF was effectively retconned into existing at least as far back as the late 1800s, since that's when Max Mercury first discovered it by accidentally bouncing off of it and shooting forward in time. The implication is that it's always been there but speedsters didn't know how to consciously access its power until recently.

 

[BrianWilly]

Thanks to Wally.

 

[Tron Bonne]

I wouldn't be surprised if they recton that by the end of Rebirth. Barry probably knew all along but he didn't tell anybody because it was too dangerous or something.

 

[Paradox1]

always thought the speed force was a great idea,Here's a question for ya maybe its been answered before or revealed in some other comic but can Supes tap into the Speed Force?

 

[Kenda Man]

always thought the speed force was a great idea,Here's a question for ya maybe its been answered before or revealed in some other comic but can Supes tap into the Speed Force?

Correct me if I'm wrong or it a better explaination is out there, but I would say no because he is NOT a speedster. I think it would also be safe to say Captain Marvel wouldn't be able to as well. Only speedsters, where there power is to run and move super fast, can tap into the speed force. Jesse Quick uses a formula( use to, but she does have spurts of speed here in there as Liberty Bell ) and ZOOM moves outside of the timeline (so he doesn't use the speed force). I don't know of a comic that discusses that Superman can not tap into the speedforce, I would assume Superman is fast due to the yellow sun reacting with his Kryptonian DNA.

I'm going to wait and see with Barry. He seems alright and I can't say "Oh they brought him back and he's a thousand times better than Wally" or "What kind of drugs were they on to replace Wally with Barry?" It's hard to compare Barry's return with 2 issues compared to the last 20 years of having Wally. I think there needs to be some time before writing off Barry so quickly. And knowing how far ahead Johns writes certain characters and events, he probably has 10 years worth of stories on Barry.

 

[Flash Facts]

No. If he could then he would be effected by Barry's death touch like all the other speedsters.

The Speed Force is to Speedsters what the Force is to Jed and I have a bad feeling that with all the emphasis Jhons is putting on Barry's scientific background that Barry will be introducing Midi-chlorians to the Speed Force.

 

[Jumpin' Jack]

Why does DC always mess good characters up? BArry Allen was one of the best chracters In the DCU. But OH NO! they always have to bring them back as bad guys.Take for example Jason Todd, He was great dead! but no. Hush brought him back YAY!....
Why cant DC jut leave the dead ones too rest ?

 

[yenaled]

Simple lack of creativity.

 

[Jumpin' Jack]

You're right.

 

[Ion Kenshin]

Thanks Corp

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I wouldn't be surprised if they recton that by the end of Rebirth. Barry probably knew all along but he didn't tell anybody because it was too dangerous or something.

I'm as quick to bash Johns' fanboyism as anyone, but I don't think this'll happen. We saw in Flash: Rebirth #1 that Barry was talking about the Speed Force as if it was completely new to him. He went to the SF when he died, so he understood it as a lightning storm where he lost his sense of self (which makes no sense with earlier portrayals, but that's another story), and now that he's back, he's only now learning about it as the source of super-speed, presumably from Wally, Bart, and Jay, who have extensive experience with it thanks to their own adventures and Max Mercury.