The Official Flash thread

[BrianWilly]

The Johns yaks about stuff. Note how he very studiously avoids answering the claim that he's using Bart as reader-mouthpiece for their very reasonable concerns.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Wally's "belt" resembles in two lightning bolts aiming downwards in a "V." Barry's is a single bolt in a diagonal zigzag across his waist.

Wally will be getting a new costume during this series, though.

And it'll inevitably suck because it won't be a Flash costume.

 

[batnkevlar]

I hope Wally's is a full face red suit... pretty much the same except without a mouth opening... then he'll look distinctively different than Barry and fans won't complain, right?

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Fans will complain regardless. I'll probably complain, at least, because I'm disgusted with the whole situation.

 

[Hush]

I will too, i just read the 1st issue and even Allen say's Wally is the Flash now.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

That's just Johns noting the current state of the DC universe so he can tell us why it's all wrong later on.

 

[sethcohen]

The Johns yaks about stuff. Note how he very studiously avoids answering the claim that he's using Bart as reader-mouthpiece for their very reasonable concerns.

johns comes off kinda *****y in this thing

 

[TheCorpulent1]

He may be, a little bit. I'm sure he's had to defend Barry's return a lot more than Hal's. Barry went out in a pretty awesome way and most people got accustomed to Wally stepping into the boots and making the Flash his own, whereas there were plenty of people who never accepted Kyle.

 

[Hush]

Yeah, which makes a bit of sense, but Barry did everything in his power to save the universe and did. So bringing him back is kinda dumb.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Notice how defensive he gets when people ask why Barry's being brought back. He always tries to emphasize that this Barry is a new Barry that nobody's seen before because he knows a lot of people see it as retreading a road we've already been down.

 

[sethcohen]

he seemed pretty irritated by a lot of those questions lol

 

[Hush]

I mean he literally at one point says, alot of people havent ever read Barry's stories so i want to write new ones with Barry. To summarize. Why is he back and why does he have a death touch? I really don't care but if i want to be up to date i kinda have to read it that is what i hate about Johns. Nothing can be self contained.

 

[Darthphere]

Johns is an *******. Shocking.

 

[Cosmic]

Flash Rebirth #1:

-Loved the art. "Gorgeous," as someone else put it perfectly.

-So Barry is back, now. What does it mean for all the people who knew him, or are linked to him? I'm not quite feeling the way this is being handled, so far. The dialogue with Hal was great, though, and Bart's view on things was also interesting.

-The traumatic childhood flashback was kind of a strange and unpleasant surprise. Hopefully, we'll eventaully find out that he was just hallucinating, or had some villain implant fake memories into his brain to mess around with him.

 

[WompuM]

The episode of JLU with the Flash Museum shows exactly why Wally should be the Flash. He isn't your a-typical hero who is out for pure justice, black and white, blah blah blah. He sees his "villains" as people in need too and does his best to empathize and help them. One of the reasons the Rogues are the most interesting group of villains is because they know how ridiculous dressing up in a costume is, and they know exactly why Wally is stopping them, and actually understand his reasoning, don't take it personally, and are making personal choices. And now, with Barry's black and white attitude, they are back to being thug, joker-knock offs.

I just do not understand this at all. Who knows the Rogues and Wally dynamic better than Johns?

And yes, it is possible that he's going somewhere great with this. The fact that our concerns are being addressed in the freaking book is astounding. I am interested to see where it goes and hopeful he doesn't alienate the last 20 years of flash fans.

 

[BlackLantern]

The episode of JLU with the Flash Museum shows exactly why Wally should be the Flash. He isn't your a-typical hero who is out for pure justice, black and white, blah blah blah. He sees his "villains" as people in need too and does his best to empathize and help them. One of the reasons the Rogues are the most interesting group of villains is because they know how ridiculous dressing up in a costume is, and they know exactly why Wally is stopping them, and actually understand his reasoning, don't take it personally, and are making personal choices. And now, with Barry's black and white attitude, they are back to being thug, joker-knock offs.

I just do not understand this at all. Who knows the Rogues and Wally dynamic better than Johns?

And yes, it is possible that he's going somewhere great with this. The fact that our concerns are being addressed in the freaking book is astounding. I am interested to see where it goes and hopeful he doesn't alienate the last 20 years of flash fans.

Ill say what I said to the Kyle fans.....Wally is great and all but.....just shut up and take it

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Awesome, I was wondering how long it'd take the Barry fans to get obnoxious.

 

[BlackLantern]

I kid....completely....Ive always liked Wally and he's always been written as a guy who was living in Barrys shadow.....that I wasn't a fan of.....I will always love Wally West as a character and hope he doesn't fade into obscurity

 

[WompuM]

I disagree with this. Unlike Kyle, Wally has not been considered in Barry's shadow for a while now. Wally is a better Flash than Barry ever was, and people recognize this. He wasn't some kid wearing his dad's clothes. He was Michael to Barry's Vito Corelone. Yes, Godfather was great, but Godfather II went deeper and was a better film.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

Haha, good analogy.

 

[BlackLantern]

I disagree with this. Unlike Kyle, Wally has not been considered in Barry's shadow for a while now. Wally is a better Flash than Barry ever was, and people recognize this. He wasn't some kid wearing his dad's clothes. He was Michael to Barry's Vito Corelone. Yes, Godfather was great, but Godfather II went deeper and was a better film.

I agree....but if you read various issues....you'll see Wally thinking to himself "what would Barry do here?" or see scenes of him looking at the Flash statue in Keystone and hoping he is doing Barry proud....

and then there are times where it is evident he is his own man and is doing all the right things

 

[WompuM]

I wouldn't call that living in Barry's shadow. The guy was, obviously, a big influence on him. But someone can still be an influence without overshadowing someone. MJ and LeBron.

 

[BlackLantern]

LeBron will never be MJ....no matter how hard he tries

 

[WompuM]

I would have said that too, but the man just keeps getting better. It is unbelievable.

 

[TheCorpulent1]

I agree....but if you read various issues....you'll see Wally thinking to himself "what would Barry do here?" or see scenes of him looking at the Flash statue in Keystone and hoping he is doing Barry proud....

and then there are times where it is evident he is his own man and is doing all the right things

That just means Barry is an important part of Wally's backstory, which is fine. That's how I prefer Barry. But the second he displaces Wally as the center of the Flash family, that's when I have a problem.

Anyway, did anyone else notice that Wally's Aunt Iris looked really young for no apparent reason in this issue? Last time I saw her, I'm pretty sure she was considerably older.