The Official Flash Thread

[lixdexia]

how many issues did bart get before he got the boot? granted that's a different animal, but i don't think it will take long for dc to make up their mind, and it seems right now that barry is unquestionably their guy. hopefully they get wally out there too soon though

 

[SuperFerret]

Bart made it a year, I believe.

I really hope Wally shows up somewhere and is treated well, because I don't want fan-guilt for enjoying Barry's title.

 

[Octoberist]

the sad thing is that some people giving barry a fighting chance either.

DC can't keep kicking off characters left and right because it's gonna get even more messy and convoluted than before. At this point, THEY have to stuck to what they have, especially if Johns is involved.

I'm more of a Wally fan, but I like The Flash and it's universe in general. So that's why I stand by Barry (for now) and so far, it has been working. I would like to see Wally as the main Flash again, but not now. It's gonna have to wait, if it ever happens.

It makes me think if the internet was alive back in the 80s, would people complain online about Frank Miller's Batman?

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Bart lasted 12 or 13 issues as the full fledged Flash.

 

[ChickenScratch]

then shouldn't the flash be jay garrick?

No, Jay, like Alan Scott they are totally unrelated to the real Flash and GL. They even tried to tie Jay to the speed force which I guess kinda works, but he didn't get his powers the way the rest of them did and he does not carry the iconic imagery that most associate with the Flash.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Bart lasted 12 or 13 issues as the full fledged Flash.

Bart was a pretty decent Flash too. I liked his run.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

Yeah, me too. Pretty nice death he had.

 

[ChickenScratch]

That first issue with the slow build to the incident in the factory and the first time we see him as The Flash, amazing. One of those times when the pacing doesn't feel purposefully slow and leading, but actually unfolding naturally.

 

[Blitzkrieg Bop]

It's been a while since I read that first story. Might have to read it later today.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Flash is one of those characters where you need to be on top of it the whole time or you get lost in the piles of story. Kinda like GL, there's so much story going on and there are so many references. That was a great moment in Flash history.

 

[HighFivingMF]

No, Jay, like Alan Scott they are totally unrelated to the real Flash and GL. They even tried to tie Jay to the speed force which I guess kinda works, but he didn't get his powers the way the rest of them did and he does not carry the iconic imagery that most associate with the Flash.

I like the idea of the Jay Garrick Flash being Barry's favorite comic book character and inspiring the name/costume when he gets his powers.

 

[Octoberist]

Let's say Darren Aronofsky gets Superman, I just can't see Greg Berlanti getting The Flash when his colleagues are Aronofsky, Martin Campbell and Chris Nolan. Even the likes of Ben Affleck, Duncan Jones and Matt Reeves have something on their plates while poor Greg has...two rom-coms.

 

[Nightwing 52]

Source

EXCLUSIVE INTERVIEW: Marc Guggenheim Talks Co-Writing The Flash Movie

In this exclusive interview, Marc Guggenheim, creative consultant for No Ordinary Family and co-writer of the Green Lantern feature film, talks about the approach he and collaborators Greg Berlanti and Michael Green are taking on the movie version of The Flash.

Interview conducted by and © Edward Gross

SCIFI MEDIA ZONE: For starters, what’s the appeal of the character of Barry Allen and the Flash for you?

MARC GUGGENHEIM: The Flash -- to me -- is about pure expression. Flash is untethered to the limitations of time and space. He can be everywhere at once and with that, I think, comes a certain freedom. Who hasn't wanted to be faster? To get some place quicker? And because Flash does so by means of running -- instead of, say, flying or teleporting -- there's an athleticism to the wish fulfillment that other super-heroes don't have. When Greg [Berlanti], Michael [Green] and I are talking about the character, we speak a lot in athletic terms. There's a component of this movie that's a lot like a sports movie, at least in terms of the language and physicality and mental toughness in what the Flash goes through.

SCIFI MEDIA ZONE: The general audience familiar with the Flash may look at him as the superhero who runs really fans and not see much beyond that. For those people, how would you define the complexities of this character?

MARC GUGGENHEIM: Well, it's all about who the character — in this case, Barry Allen — is before he gets his powers. We spent a lot of time talking about who Barry is and, specifically, why he's the kind of guy we want to see get these powers bestowed on him. What's missing in his life? What problems does he have? What personal foibles? And how are all those things impacted by the ability to run fast? I don't want to spoil the answers that we came up with, but this was very much our approach: You make running fast interesting by creating a character who is challenged and fulfilled by getting the ability to run fast.

SCIFI MEDIA ZONE: In my mind, Flash is in the same position Iron Man was as far as mainstream audiences: a known quantity by name, but pretty much an empty canvas beyond that. Any validity in that thought?

MARC GUGGENHEIM: I don't think any super-hero is an "empty canvass," per se, because even if the mainstream audience doesn't know about him or her, the comic book community does and you always want to honor what they know and love about the character. In the case of the older, Silver Age characters, the trick is to dramatize their backstories in a way that feels modern and fresh. But that's the fun as well. You always want to be informed by the source material and draw inspiration from it. For example, we always try to avoid creating a new character when it's possible to draw from the cast established by the comic.

 

[Octoberist]

Thanks for the article!

He's a better speaker than Greg Berlanti, haha.

BTW, isn't The Flash about Super Speed, not just Super run? I hope that Geoff Johns inform them of that, especially since both Green and Guggenheim are both DC comic writers too.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Why does every fancast nominate Matthew Fox for Barry Allen? Seriously. It's like they saw a muscular guy and thought "Hm. He looks like a superhero but doesn't fit the bill for Superman, Batman or Spider-Man so I'll just cast him in a role of a character I know nothing about."

 

[TheWatcher]

^Thank you sir. I SERIOUSLY applaud you for that. He doesn't fit Barry AT ALL. Maybe an older Superman but not Flash.

 

[The Guard]

Jay, Barry and Wally should all feature in all the films. Why they would do anything else is beyond me.

 

[HighFivingMF]

I think I caught depression from this.

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[Blitzkrieg Bop]

I think I caught depression from this.

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Just listen to "The Ballad of Barry Allen" and that'll make you feel better. Or maybe it would actually make you feel worse, as you realize that it probably sucks being a speedster.

 

[Octoberist]

Why does every fancast nominate Matthew Fox for Barry Allen? Seriously. It's like they saw a muscular guy and thought "Hm. He looks like a superhero but doesn't fit the bill for Superman, Batman or Spider-Man so I'll just cast him in a role of a character I know nothing about."

amen. I like Matthew but it's kinda random when people want him to be Barry.

 

[HighFivingMF]

Just listen to "The Ballad of Barry Allen" and that'll make you feel better. Or maybe it would actually make you feel worse, as you realize that it probably sucks being a speedster.

I have "Ballad of Barry Allen" on my iPod. That made me feel better. Along with "Ring Capacity" by Kirby Krackle.

 

[OwlBoy]

I think I caught depression from this.

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[Octoberist]

Since it's so early in the game, when do we think we'll hear some director news? Me thinks Comic Con 2011, which give them 2 years before the release date (if Flash comes out in 2013). That is the case right now with Superman right now.

 

[Octoberist]

Not much but more on Berlanti on The Flash:

CS: I was curious about how you compartmentalize all the stuff you're working on, because you obviously have a movie coming out, you have a couple others in production and you have the TV show. ("No Ordinary Family," which started earlier this week.)
Berlanti: Yes. People, yeah, it's with people. I think of the TV show and I think of Jon Feldman who I do that with. He carries the burden of that most of the day, then I go in and out of that with him. With the film, Michael Green and Marc Guggenheim are writing "The Flash," I work on it with them. So for me, it's divided up by people and that helps me 'cause then it's not as much. If I think about it as just the project or all of the stories, they do overwhelm you because you have to keep track of all these different things. If I have a person to sort of throw the ball back and forth with, it makes it a lot easier to go because then things are happening even when you're not working on it, you know? Their focus may be on the problem of the day, but I can focus on maybe the bigger picture of the thing.

At this point, we got into talking more about Green Lantern and some stuff about The Flash, which you can read over on SuperHeroHype, but we ended with a quick shout-out to Geoff Johns, DC Entertainment's Chief Creative Officer, and the man who revitalized both characters in the comics:

CS: By the way, I'm a bigger "Flash" fan than a "Green Lantern" fan.
Berlanti: Oh really, that's great. This is my favorite question to ask - what was it about "The Flash" that appealed to you?

CS: Probably the Rogues' Gallery.
Berlanti: There were multiple villains on him.

CS: There's so many villains, yeah. I read "The Flash" as a kid and in fact, the first time I interacted with Geoff Johns was when I was reviewing comic books and he Emailed me after I reviewed his first issue. But yeah, I'm a big "Flash" fan, probably 'cause I also talk fast.
Berlanti: (Geoff)'s awesome. He's as much a reason as anybody that the "GL" movie and "The Flash" movie are possible, just the way he revitalized the characters and what he's doing now even at DC, so he gets a lotta props.

Read more: Exclusive: Life as We Know It's Greg Berlanti - ComingSoon.net http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=70209#ixzz115glQDdA

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=70209#ixzz115glQDdA​

 

[Young Superman]

Matthew Morrison as The Flash (Barry Allen)
Rachel McAdams as Iris West Allen
Robert Patrick as Captain Cold
Sam Worthington as Captain Boomerang
Michael Clarke Duncan as Gorilla Grodd