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Your Preferred Flash For This Movie (Regardless who it ends up being officially)

  • Jay Garrick

  • Barry Allen

  • Wally West

  • Bart Allen

  • Jay Garrick

  • Barry Allen

  • Wally West

  • Bart Allen

  • Jay Garrick

  • Barry Allen

  • Wally West

  • Bart Allen

  • Jay Garrick

  • Barry Allen

  • Wally West

  • Bart Allen


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The suit in the old TV show was pretty good. I think they darkened the shade of red after the first episode though.

I'd say the flashes suit should be like that BUT, smaller muscles (John Wesley Shipp was pretty built, but the suits muscles were pretty ridiculous), yellow/gold boots, and the mask not covering the nose, but more like it is in the comic book.
 
I'd say 24 if it's an origin as I hope. That's exactly how old he was when he got his powers. He was only a forensic scientist for the Central City police for a few months when he got super speed. They could play up his inexperience when he becomes Flash - he out of all the Flashes, was most inexperienced when he became Flash. He wasn't a kid when he became a superhero like Wally or born with his powers like Bart. That's part of what I think makes him unique and should be played up in the movie. :) And it will be cool to see him come up with the suit. I hope they play up that he likes comics as well (maybe he's a bit of a geek?). :D


I like your ideas Kevin.
 
personality wise, how was Barry Allen? Was he funny, like Wally? I know that he's an important figure in the Silver Age of comics for sure, but my question is..why? Out of curiosity.
 
The suit in the old TV show was pretty good. I think they darkened the shade of red after the first episode though.

I'd say the flashes suit should be like that BUT, smaller muscles (John Wesley Shipp was pretty built, but the suits muscles were pretty ridiculous), yellow/gold boots, and the mask not covering the nose, but more like it is in the comic book.

My thoughts exactly. :D
 
personality wise, how was Barry Allen? Was he funny, like Wally?

All the Flashes have been funny in their own way. Barry, Wally, Bart, and even Jay, they all have their own unique sense of humor. They all, especially Barry and Wally, have a certain "everyman" quality to them, they're the "normal" guys in the JLA, if you know what I mean - The "blue collar" superheroes. In terms of personality and being comedic, Barry Allen was more sarcastic as opposed to slapstick like Wally and Bart. Being a forensic scientist, Barry is the "smartest" of Flashes, the way he approached humor was he'd make other people feel and/or look stupid as opposed to Wally and Bart who would make themselves look "stupid" and get people to laugh at them. Barry was a smartass and less of a dumbass like Wally and Bart were (when it comes to humor. I'm not knocking any of them of course). Being from the midwest and new to the big city at first, Barry had sort of a Clark Kent thing going for him, with some people thinking he was a "hick" or whatever, add to that the fact that he was slow and always late for everything, people also accused him of being lazy. He was a bit of what you might consider a "doormat" at first at the Central City PD, people took advantage of him cuz he was "nice", but in time, although he was notorioulsy late and still thought of as "lazy", people respected him because he was the best forensic scientist Central City had. He also had a sort of "geeky" side, being not only a scientist and excelling in his studies in school/college as opposed to having great athletic prowess, but also because he was an avid comics/genre fan. But he wasn't a total George McFly type geek, he had a cool side to him, IMO, and as I said he was sarcastic, but he also had a quiet charm to him. As far as girl-craziness goes, while he wasn't as girl crazy as Wally was in his early days, Barry certainly had his share of chicks, including Black Canary, although most the women thought less of him than he did of them most the time. But ultimately, Barry only had eyes for Iris West, whom he'd met in college, they fell in love, although she constantly accused him of being lazy and criticized his typical lateness. Barry Allen was very inventive, the most creative of Flashes - not only was he the "pioneer" for Wally and Bart, creating the suit and identity and training Wally, but he also came up with different ways to use his super speed. Being a scientist and naturally clever, although he only had one single superpower as The Flash, he certainly made the best of it, coming up with all sorts of new and different things to do with his super speed practically all the time, things that a duller person would never have conceived (he later taught Wally most his tricks). But back to personality, Barry was easy going and laid back, just a light hearted guy and not much seemed to really bother him. He's a little unsure, but when he has to save someone he's incredibly determined. Always holding an optimistic view yet with his trademark sarcastic sense of humor.


I know that he's an important figure in the Silver Age of comics for sure, but my question is..why? Out of curiosity.

Well, as a publication material, he jump-started the Silver Age. If we are to speak in biblical terms, Superman would be Adam, the first man, but Barry would be Noah, the preserver of mankind. Barry as The Flash reignited interest in superheroes; had it not been for him there would never have been:

Green Lantern Hal Jordan and by extension the GL Corps
JLA
Fantasic 4
Spider-Man, Iron Man, and all the other current and major Marvel heroes
Science Fiction would not have been a major focus in superhero stories if not for The Flash
Was the Flash longer than anyone else (Barry was Flash for 30 + years, Wally was Flash for 22 years, Jay was Flash for 11, and Bart was Flash for 1 year and a month)

If it weren't for him, we'd probably still be reading comics about romance or cowboys or horror stories. Also, I think he's important because he stayed dead longer than any other mainstream, A-list superhero. So that's why Barry Allen is important to comics as a publication material. But as a comics character, he's important because:

He co-founded the JLA, even suggested the "Justice" part of the moniker.
Created the lagacy that Wally and Bart carry as The Flash
Discovered the Multiverse, a HUGE part of the DC mythology
Sacraficed his life in Crisis on Infinite Earths, saving the universe
Without him, there would be no Wally West (nephew (or at least a superpowered Wally West anyway)) or Bart Allen (grandson from the future)
Was The Flash longest in the comics

So that's some of why he's important as a comics character.

I hope that helped with your questions. :D Please feel free to ask me anything on the subject. :)
 
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Thanks Kevin Smith!

Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of 'killing off' characters left and right. Was Barry Allen's death a mistake in the long run? I think that's why Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman are the 'Trinity' of DC because they kept them in place. (I don't know about Batman now).

The other characters kept on swaping and NOW finally DC (Geof Johns) brought back Hal Jordan with great success. And now with Barry, almost everyone's back. Now if Bruce is gone, then DC screwed up again!
 
Kevin:

Have you ever considered making some DC adaptions for WB in either tv or movies? Your idea for the Teen Titans and Flash in other threads were great. I'd love to see stuff like that on tv. The live action tv adaptions really need a kick in the pants. You seem like a person who could get that branch into the right direction.
 
Kevin:

Have you ever considered making some DC adaptions for WB in either tv or movies? Your idea for the Teen Titans and Flash in other threads were great. I'd love to see stuff like that on tv. The live action tv adaptions really need a kick in the pants. You seem like a person who could get that branch into the right direction.

Kevin I agree with The Major, you have some great ideas.

P.S Octoberist as far as Bruce goes, he will be back before to long.
 
I know he's sorta young but how about Kyle Gallner, who played Bart Allen on "Smallville"
 
Kyle Gallner as who again? He can't play Barry or Wally, that's for sure
 
Thanks Kevin Smith!

You're welcome, bro. :D

Honestly, I'm not a huge fan of 'killing off' characters left and right.

Same here.

Was Barry Allen's death a mistake in the long run?

Although some great Wally stories have been told, I think it was, personally, a mistake in the long run. I wish they would have just rebooted him the way they did with Superman, Batman, and WW and injected some new life into him instead of killing him. DC hadn't given much of a damn about The Flash since the early eighties I think. Or if they wanted to kill him, they still could have, and that would have been the end to the pre crisis Flash, they just could have started the rebooted series with the new universe's Barry Allen Flash. I understand tho, that his death was symbolic of the silver age, sort of saying "this is the beginning of a new era", because Barry Allen jump-started the silver age, killing him would send a message that said "the silver age is over". But I agree with Marv Wolfman (who wrote Crisis), they should have kept him alive and just rebooted the series along with the others. Same goes for Hal, although the Parallax story is intriguing.

I think that's why Batman, Superman, and Wonder Woman are the 'Trinity' of DC because they kept them in place. (I don't know about Batman now).

I think that's true as well, although they've always been considered as DC's "BIG 3", even though for over 15 years The Flash was DC's third best selling title (Batman was second, Superman was third). And Bruce Wayne should be back. They've done "The Flash" treatment on so many characters now; The Atom, Captain America, GL, GA, I'm not sure it wil work with Batman because he's such of a HUGE character, bigger than all of them (I don't like those kind of changes lol!).

The other characters kept on swaping and NOW finally DC (Geof Johns) brought back Hal Jordan with great success. And now with Barry, almost everyone's back. Now if Bruce is gone, then DC screwed up again!

I know! That's exactly the way I feel. :csad: We finally get the "real" (no disrespect meant to the others) Flash and GL back, and now Batman's gone! Of course, they have to bring back the Ray Palmer Atom and Aquaman, and most certainly the Martian Manhunter. It really pissed me off that they killed MM. He was one of the most unique comics characters ever, IMO, certainly one of DC's most unique characters, I think. Even my mom liked him lol. But I don't think he'll stay dead for too long, After all, if Barry came back, now anyone can. My policy with characters returning from the dead is this: if they were well liked and good characters who still have good stories to tell, they should return from the dead. I wasn't particularly fond of Jason Todd or Bucky Barnes (two characters I never cared for) revival, but if they can make it work, great. I'm hoping sometime in the near future Geoff Johns writes the definitive Post Final Crisis JLA origin, and I can't wait for Flash: Rebirth and his "definitive" Superman origin miniseries as well. :)
 
it would be great if johns can get tapped to help write gl/flash films. loved his script from smallville's legion episode last night.
 
Kevin:

Have you ever considered making some DC adaptions for WB in either tv or movies?

Yes! Several times! :D

Your idea for the Teen Titans and Flash in other threads were great. I'd love to see stuff like that on tv.

Thanks, man! :D (me too heheh)

The live action tv adaptions really need a kick in the pants.

Amen ta that.

You seem like a person who could get that branch into the right direction.

Thanks, but I don't know about that. (here's where I take the mask off) Unfortunately, I don't know if you knew this or not and I'm sorry if I mislead you (as I probably did with the name and pic), but.........I'm not the "real" Kevin Smith. :wow: I'm just a jerk who thought it'd be cool to use his name on the boards, he's one of my favorite directors, I really dig the guy. I'm sorry. :csad: That said, I would love to have some sort of influence on the DC movie projects, and/or animation and/or tv (who wouldn't around here, right? :)). Slightly off subject: I'm working on some GL movie suit designs that I'll post in one of the GL threads in a few days, hope you and others will check it out.

Anyhoo, I hope you'll still converse with me in the threads here. I enjoy talking with you all and hearing your ideas. :D
 
it would be great if johns can get tapped to help write gl/flash films. loved his script from smallville's legion episode last night.

Totally. :word: Put him on any DC film, especially Flash and Superman (and GL of course, although that's seems to have already been taken care of).
 
yea i know, i dont know his work that much but what he did for smallville was great mixing comics lore and smallville's lore together was great. I would totally be down to see what he could do on the big screen for any of these characters. I just hope if flash, ww, and other dc characters can make it out to the big screen in the next few yrs they are treated seriously and faithfully.
 
Yes! Several times! :D



Thanks, man! (me too heheh)



Amen ta that.

:woot:

Thanks, but I don't know about that. (here's where I take the mask off) Unfortunately, I don't know if you knew this or not and I'm sorry if I mislead you (as I probably did with the name and pic), but.........I'm not the "real" Kevin Smith. :wow: I'm just a jerk who thought it'd be cool to use his name on the boards, he's one of my favorite directors, I really dig the guy. I'm sorry. :csad:
My mistake, I thought you were the real Kevin Smith. I'm a big fan of his, as well.

That said, I would love to have some sort of influence on the DC movie projects, and/or animation and/or tv (who wouldn't around here, right? :)).
:hehe:

I agree there. I'd love to do that eventually, too.

Slightly off subject: I'm working on some GL movie suit designs that I'll post in one of the GL threads in a few days, hope you and others will check it out.
Sure.

Anyhoo, I hope you'll still converse with me in the threads here. I enjoy talking with you all and hearing your ideas. :D
That's fine. You seem like a cool person. Whether you are the real Kevin or not won't mean I won't stop talking to you here.
 
I know I've already posted a similar pic, but here's another new Flash: rebirth pic:

flsreb_cv1-cv.jpg


I can't wait for this! :D And the release date is April 1st, 2009. Seriously. :)
 
cool cool, for you comic guys is it known when wally will be starting to wear his new costume.
 
cool cool, for you comic guys is it known when wally will be starting to wear his new costume.

Flash: Rebirth #1. There should be a pic of it released soon though, I hope. :) There probably will be sometime within the next month, IMO.
 
thanks kevin, i was just wondering that question earlier.
 
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