The Official Flash Thread

[solidsnake86]

With barry coming back in the comics you can guarantee that was done in order to make a movie based on his character. I also don't see this "do barry for one movie then switch to wally" thing everyone is saying, thats fanboy wishing and doesnt make any sense. You introduce a lead character, lets say the film does well, is well liked, audience likes barry, only to kill him off or bring in another character for the sequel. What I could see them doing if they were going to use wally is have barry for 2 movies, maybe kill him off at the end of the second only to bring him back in the third along with wally. Its all a moot point though until they actually make the film.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

With barry coming back in the comics you can guarantee that was done in order to make a movie based on his character. I also don't see this "do barry for one movie then switch to wally" thing everyone is saying, thats fanboy wishing and doesnt make any sense. You introduce a lead character, lets say the film does well, is well liked, audience likes barry, only to kill him off or bring in another character for the sequel. What I could see them doing if they were going to use wally is have barry for 2 movies, maybe kill him off at the end of the second only to bring him back in the third along with wally. Its all a moot point though until they actually make the film.

Exactly.

 

[Timstuff]

If they properly foreshadow the possibility of Wally having speedster abilities and keep him involved in the story before he even puts on a costume, I don't think people would be confused if in the second movie Barry dies and the story transitions to Wally. That way, Barry has the first movie, Wally has the third, and they share the second (unless of course, they decide to make the transition during the Justice League movie and then either Barry or Wally has the second movie entirely to themself).

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Either way, Scott Porter wouldn't be Wally in that case.


What Justice League movie? The prospect of a JL film is dead now.

 

[Timstuff]

The concept of a standalone one is. The prospect of one that combines characters established in solo films is actually looking more likely than ever though, judging from the recent comments from people at DC and Warner Bros.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

The concept of a standalone one is. The prospect of one that combines characters established in solo films is actually looking more likely than ever though, judging from the recent comments from people at DC and Warner Bros.

What are you basing this on though?


WB/DC Entertainment's current strategy is just focusing on solo films in self-contained universes with no plans to do ensemble features.


Maybe Avengers could change that, but things aren't looking so good with zero movement on the films for a lot of the DCU big guns.


JL just seems too impossible to fathom at this point. There isn't even plans for a Superman film.

 

[ChickenScratch]

I simply don't see it happening. If The Flash is done well and it's a hit DC/WB is going to hold onto Barry for as long as possible to keep that magic going. After all, there's no rule that says they have to move onto Wally, especially if Barry catches on. I could see it becoming like the first lot of Bond movies with Sean. If Barry works, he'll be there for a while, you don't wanna screw with a formula that works.

 

[Kevin Smith]

I simply don't see it happening. If The Flash is done well and it's a hit DC/WB is going to hold onto Barry for as long as possible to keep that magic going. After all, there's no rule that says they have to move onto Wally, especially if Barry catches on. I could see it becoming like the first lot of Bond movies with Sean. If Barry works, he'll be there for a while, you don't wanna screw with a formula that works.

exactly.

 

[Young Superman]

Scott Porter = The Flash/Barry Allen

Missy Peregrym = Iris West

Still working om the Rouges.

 

[Kevin Smith]

Scott Porter = The Flash/Barry Allen

Missy Peregrym = Iris West

Still working om the Rouges.

NICE!!!! You know, the more of Porter I watch the more I like him, actually. SCOTT PORTER FOR BARY ALLEN FTW!! (great casting for Iris too!)

 

[Webhead2006]

If they properly foreshadow the possibility of Wally having speedster abilities and keep him involved in the story before he even puts on a costume, I don't think people would be confused if in the second movie Barry dies and the story transitions to Wally. That way, Barry has the first movie, Wally has the third, and they share the second (unless of course, they decide to make the transition during the Justice League movie and then either Barry or Wally has the second movie entirely to themself).

That is what i say too, have the movies be barry but wally to be included so if they did want wally story down the road they already set up the character.

I think i asked this awhile ago but i forgot. I know barry was 24yrs old ish when he became flash. How much of an age difference was there between barry and wally when wally was first brought in?

 

[Timstuff]

What are you basing this on though?


WB/DC Entertainment's current strategy is just focusing on solo films in self-contained universes with no plans to do ensemble features.

One of DC Entertainment's higher ups let slip that they wanted their movies "to be made with the acknowledgment of a larger world of heroes" or something to this effect, which was also echoed by one of the previous Flash scribes when discussing how things had changed since the last time anyone wrote a Flash script. Also, Green Lantern was going to have a Clark Kent cameo in it (and it might still, depending on the circumstances with the Superman franchise). Warner Bros. is moving towards an integrated DC movie universe, not away from it. The only person who has spoken against the idea has been Christopher Nolan, and he could well come around if DC talks him into it and Warner Bros. keeps the big checks coming.

As for the people saying "once Barry is in, there's no way they'd be able to get rid of him," as I said earlier if Wally West is one of the main characters prior to becoming a Speedster people would accept it if he becomes The Flash later. It would feel like a natural progression, and the only reason I think there'd be fear of people rejecting him would be if they wait until Barry's actor is about to sign off of the franchise before they introduce Wally, and only bring him in at the last minute because they're changing actors. I understand that some people here desperately want for the movies to be exclusive to Barry with no possibility of one featuring Wally, but that's how I see it. Wally at this point in time still has at least as big a following as Barry (having been the main flash for the last 20+ years will do that), and I doubt DC is going to step on that and completely discard it any more than they would discard Barry's fans. If they really did intend to put him out to pasture, they would be retiring him from comics instead of giving him his own monthly title independent of Barry's.

 

[flash13]

I simply don't see it happening. If The Flash is done well and it's a hit DC/WB is going to hold onto Barry for as long as possible to keep that magic going. After all, there's no rule that says they have to move onto Wally, especially if Barry catches on. I could see it becoming like the first lot of Bond movies with Sean. If Barry works, he'll be there for a while, you don't wanna screw with a formula that works.

My question is why not just do both Wally and Barry like David Goyer was? I know I'm not paying 7.00$ each to see three crappy Barry Allen movies.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Why establish one character to then toss him later on in the same movie? Barry was Flash for a long time, longer than even Wally. It's throwing out the baby with the bathwater.

 

[Evil Twin]

I'll be happy to toss $7 apiece for good Barry Allen films.

I'd agree though that if the first Flash film is a hit they're not going to rush to bring in Wally as a replacement. Heck, Barry lasted for 30 years as The Flash as a lead solo feature before being replaced. The number of heroes that lasted for 30 years as a cover feature without cancellation is a very small list, at DC it's basically Superman, Batman, WW, JLA, and Barry Allen with Sgt. Rock, the Blackhawks, and the Haunted Tank (yes, really) coming close.

But I think it's fairly understandable that they'll keep making Barry Allen films until the franchise needs revitalization and then turn to Wally.

 

[ChickenScratch]

Exactly, why ruin a good thing if they hire a good, young actor who can carry the role. Barry's had one fo the most stories carriers in comics, and not just as the greatest Flash ever, but as a pretty remarkable cop, family man, mentor to Wally (and a few others). There are quite a few movies worth of story to be told.

I'm not saying Wally cant' be in there, but keep him as a side-character. Heck, give him powers even, but keep the focus or Barry, genius CSI, good husband, hero and all around the most likable guy this side of Dick Grayson.

 

[Octoberist]

i think they should keep the continuity of the comics.

I think Wally will be The Flash at some point in the potential movie series, but it won't be a means to take over for 'Barry because some people don't like him'. It has to make sense and work well into the story.

 

[solidsnake86]

This whole they need to introduce wally to respect the fans is nonsense, if barry is a big hit and the flash film for that matter, the General audience isnt going to care about making sure wally gets his time to shine. With Geoff Johns writing it I believe we'll see wally, but I highly doubt there going to kill of the main character that the audience gets attached too, that would be as ridiculous as killing off bruce and having grayson replace him. Not to mention the fact that most think we'll be getting 10 or 15 flash films, the first one has to make money to even get a sequel if were lucky. I think the smartest thing would almost be to spin off into a television series featuring wally.

 

[Timstuff]

If Wally is a prominent character in the movies and not just a side character, then it will feel natural for him to become The Flash. The audience is not going to whine and moan about Barry being replaced as Flash if they like Wally enough to want to see him get a chance to shine, so again, I don't see a valid argument in saying "once they set up Barry as the Flash there's no way the audience would want to see him replaced."

 

[solidsnake86]

It is a valid argument because how many good movie series up and replace the main character for starters. Second, whose to say the flash film even accomplishes enough to get a sequel, then if it does your going to kill the main character and have wally's time to shine, to satisfy who exactly? I get what your saying timstuff but what your describing sounds like a fan fic and not a potential movie series IMO.

Thats just my opinion of course and sure it can be done but if that was WB's intention we would have already had a flash film. They've obviously tried to get one off the ground and I think the problem has basically been with wally's character. The best bet for that to happen was the justice league film but after that died I think wally's chances went to. Why would they go through the trouble of bringing barry back in the comics and no its not cause johns was obsessed with doing it.

 

[flash13]

The defining thing about The Flash is that it's a legacy, it's not just about Barry Allen, it's also about Wally West, Jay Garrick and Bart Allen. If they just make another clique superhero movie (Spider-Man and Superman: The Movie) Instead of focusing on the legacy as David Goyer was going to do then I for one will be annoyed. (Sometimes I wish Goyer was still on the project)

 

[ChickenScratch]

On the same note, of what importance of the mantle of The Flash if Barry's only the title holder for such a short time? Wally became the Flash because of all of what Barry did. Not because he and his uncle had the same powers. My uncle an did play soccer, I don't wanna wear his number or play on the teams he did.

There's a reason it's a legacy, because Barry did so many great things that Central City and the world as a whole needed him. Much like with Batman.

 

[MadVillainy]

I mean the legacy aspect is just one reason I want Wally.

With Barry, it's basically I was slow I got powers now I'm fast. (Personally Barry in comics now, Blackest Night in particular is much more interesting then old Barry)

With Wally you can have his womanizing days, his financial issues, his mental blocks that kept him from being a hero ALONG with the whole legacy aspect

But thats just my 2 cents

 

[Webhead2006]

well yea they can still have the legacy aspect kept in a flash film series. But still personally it would be nice to start with barry, with how his origin is. Have wally there has a supporting character. Then if we get more movies try to see what they would want to do with transfer from barry to wally.

 

[The Batman]

Wally wont replace barry for the mere fact that its no longer necessary. Barry, despite what DC might say, is THE Flash right now. The only way wally replaces barry is if its the last movie

Hell, even when Wally WAS the main flash, they still chose barry for the tv show, and wally never made an appearance.