The Official Green Lantern Review Thread - Part 3

[Godman]

Why do I get a facepalm? TDK was essentially a tale of good versus evil. There is never any reason given to the Joker's evil, he just is. Take away the great acting by Heath Ledger and brilliant direction by Chris Nolan--the Joker is just pure evil. No different really than Parallax. That is why BB is the much deeper movie with Ras as the villain.

The Joker actually gives his reason a lot. to create anarchy and upset the establishment that thinks it has control over everything and to prove everyone is capable of evil when pushed to that limit. Thats was his point and agenda. watch the movie again, its CLEAR.

The Joker was the "terrorist" but to what? the already corrupt establishment?? and u have to remember he didnt just go killing random people at will. he killed the bank guy in the beginning cause he shot at them. Joker was out against the mob for being cliche villains and not setting a standard for the city which thinks it has an authority to be ran by the order. Joker isnt just mindless villainy. He actually has a very HUGE point. Its like the stuff he does are the jokes and the punchline is the finale that he actually accomplished with harvey dent turning evil due to being scarred an pushed.

Listen to everything the Joker says. u cant be so shallow as ot think its as black and white as that. Joker even makes a point in painting batman as much a villain himself. makes us question the line between good and evil the whole movie and who sets that line there and who has the right to cross it.

He feels if batman can get away with his theatrics then so can he. The movie had so many layers dude...come on.

 

[Primal Slayer]

Which brings up a point, that if they inteded humor to be in this movie, it failed. I went to a showing that was at least 80% full, and there was a meager chuckle here and there, but no one last. There was no "I need a horse!" moment in this film, not one. The movie was not funny.

While it didnt have any one laughing for a long period of time, it still got people to laugh at parts which is doing its job. Plenty of people in my theatre laughed at the "funny" scenes.

 

[ElMariachi]

sure it did, but it did it in a very lame way.
favreau's calling card.
and everyone approves.

"...hey 'dj A.M' drop some lame music while I beat up my friend here"

better idea,how bout you show don't tell, how about your composer to score the scene appropriately, have the sprinklers turn on, have some real pain in the scene, have armor being striped, have shame and embarrassment and have someone left for dead.

only then will I accept fan boys look me in the face and say it was awesome, till then, it's just another marvel movie that people treat as if it's better than it is.

the racing track scene...

Because the DJ AM stuff made the movie unique and fun, rather than overly dramatic? Stuff like this is what makes the Iron Man movies fresh, bold, and stand out compared to others. That is one of the problems with Green Lantern. There weren't enough little things that stood out like that. The detail in Iron Man 1/2 made the movies feel more real world in my opinion.

I think some of you guys need to get over this Batman obsession where everything has to be moody, dramatic, and ominious tones.

 

[ElMariachi]

it was cheesy and distracting from the tone of a man dealing with alcohol abuse, and an internal illness. I think one of my main issues is that he has been revealed as tony stark too soon. maybe at the middle of this movie it would have sufficed cause for some reason it made for a very campy and cheesy second run. By the way...Batman arguing with Robin about who's got more money and which credit card to use was supposed to be funny. I didnt laught...it was stupid and campy nonsense.

We get it RJD is a hilarious man, but the script doesnt have to have full out scenes that play as a parody within themselves.

Getting drunk isn't the same thing as alcohol abuse. There is a reason they didn't go with the Demon in a Bottle storyline and that is because it would be too depressing for a summer blockbuster. Tony Stark drunk is how alot of people act drunk. The fact that he is a superhero and a celebrity just makes it more amusing.

 

[Anno_Domini]

Batman
Batman Returns
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
Hellboy
Hellboy II: The Golden Army
Iron Man
Spider-Man
Spider-Man 2
Superman: The Movie
Superman II
Thor
Watchmen
X-Men
X2: X-Men United
X-Men: First Class

Blade II
Constantine
Green Lantern
The Green Hornet
Hancock
The Incredible Hulk
Iron Man 2
Punisher
X-Men: The Last Stand

Batman Forever
Batman & Robin
Blade: Trinity
Catwoman
Daredevil
Elektra
Fantastic Four
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer
Ghost Rider
Hulk
Jonah Hex
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Punisher: War Zone
Spider-Man 3
The Spirit
Steel
Supergirl
Superman III
Superman IV
Superman Returns
X-Men Origins: Wolverine

These would be my selections.

 

[HaloCod27]

Do you work for Marvel ? You want to talk about an overrated steaming pile , Spiderman 2 fits the bill more than any comic book film

What you've just typed is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever read. At no point in your rambling, incoherent statement were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this thread is now dumber for having read it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.


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Lol sorry I had to say that, but seriously,

 

[Marvin]

Because the DJ AM stuff made the movie unique and fun, rather than overly dramatic? Stuff like this is what makes the Iron Man movies fresh, bold, and stand out compared to others. That is one of the problems with Green Lantern. There weren't enough little things that stood out like that. The detail in Iron Man 1/2 made the movies feel more real world in my opinion.

I think some of you guys need to get over this Batman obsession where everything has to be moody, dramatic, and ominious tones.

it's not about being dark, it's about choosing to commit to your drama.

If superman's dad dies in his arms, the choice is made for drama now commit to it or not. Don't play DJ AM or some country music. My problem with most comic book films, especially marvel studios.

 

[ElMariachi]

The Joker actually gives his reason a lot. to create anarchy and upset the establishment that thinks it has control over everything and to prove everyone is capable of evil when pushed to that limit. Thats was his point and agenda. watch the movie again, its CLEAR.

The Joker was the "terrorist" but to what? the already corrupt establishment?? and u have to remember he didnt just go killing random people at will. he killed the bank guy in the beginning cause he shot at them. Joker was out against the mob for being cliche villains and not setting a standard for the city which thinks it has an authority to be ran by the order. Joker isnt just mindless villainy. He actually has a very HUGE point. Its like the stuff he does are the jokes and the punchline is the finale that he actually accomplished with harvey dent turning evil due to being scarred an pushed.

Listen to everything the Joker says. u cant be so shallow as ot think its as black and white as that. Joker even makes a point in painting batman as much a villain himself. makes us question the line between good and evil the whole movie and who sets that line there and who has the right to cross it.

He feels if batman can get away with his theatrics then so can he. The movie had so many layers dude...come on.

His character was well acted but his story and backround were simple. Being an anarchist for the sake of being an anarchist isn't really depth. Even terrorists, like those who attacked us on 9/11, had reasons for doing so. That's the problem with the Joker though because he is crazy and can do pretty much anything without any reason. In the end, he is just a great bad guy looking to start trouble with the hero. This differs from Ra's al Ghul who had a compelling backstory and reason for trying to destroy Gotham City.

 

[The Caped Knight]

I saw GL and I gotta say I expected better from Martin Campbell. I'm very disappointed with the end result IMO both Thor and First Class was so much better than this film .
So much wasted potential and The CGI looked very animated at times, The villain was an absolute joke, Carol was miscasted , Ryan overall just wasn't Hal Jordon from the comics . If a sequel is made their needs to be some serious improvements done for this franchise .

Looking forward to Transformers : DOTM and Captain America

 

[The Only Woj]

My thoughts --

Full-on CG for the characters was a poor choice. At the very least for Tomar Re and Kilowog they could have been done with a prosthetic/anamatronic FOR THEIR HEADS. It was too jarring when the only thing 'real' on screen was Reynold's head. If they could pull off it off in-camera on Hellboy (ie. Abe), they could have done it here. CG the body because, after all, it's a CG suit. and the blue guardians. hell, they're basically just heads anyway! I saw no reason why they couldn't have been prosthetics and makeup. Oh, and that opening scene in the beginning that is 100% CG, along with the characters ... pissed me off. they couldn't have had a REAL set, prosthetics for the heads and REAL suits for the body? Maybe this stuff works with an Avatar sized budget (and a better production house churning out the effects), but not at all here.

 

[ElMariachi]

it's not about being dark, it's about choosing to commit to your drama.

If superman's dad dies in his arms, the choice is made for drama now commit to it or not. Don't play DJ AM or some country music. My problem with most comic book films, especially marvel studios.

But nobody died in Tony Stark's arms. He was drunk and fighting his best friend. It was obvious he wasn't taking their fight seriously until they busted out the repulsors later in the fight. Hence, why the music changed from light hearted mainstream music to more serious music.

Your problems with these movies are trivial at best. You are picking out one scene and ignoring all the great music in Iron Man 2. I don't think you can really complain about Marvel movies because Thor had a serious soundtrack. TIH did as well, but it wasn't as good or memorable as Thor/IM/IM2.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

X-Men
X2: X-Men United
X-Men: First Class
Spider-Man
Spider-Man 2
Batman Begins
The Dark Knight
Iron Man
Hellboy
Thor
Iron Man 2


Superman Returns
Hellboy II: The Golden Army
Watchmen
Hulk
The Incredible Hulk
Blade II
Hancock
Kick-Ass
The Green Hornet

X-Men: The Last Stand
X-Men Origins: Wolverine
Unbreakable
Spider-Man 3
Fantastic Four
Fantastic Four: Rise of the Silver Surfer
The Punisher
Punisher: War Zone
Blade: Trinity
Daredevil
Elektra
The League of Extraordinary Gentlemen
Catwoman
Ghost Rider
Jonah Hex
The Spirit

My version of the rankings.

Spot On.



Unfortunately it's looking like GL is headed for the blue section alongside F4 and Ghost Rider.

 

[Octoberist]

My thoughts --

Full-on CG for the characters was a poor choice. At the very least for Tomar Re and Kilowog they could have been done with a prosthetic/anamatronic FOR THEIR HEADS. It was too jarring when the only thing 'real' on screen was Reynold's head. If they could pull off it off in-camera on Hellboy (ie. Abe), they could have done it here. CG the body because, after all, it's a CG suit. and the blue guardians. hell, they're basically just heads anyway! I saw no reason why they couldn't have been prosthetics and makeup. Oh, and that opening scene in the beginning that is 100% CG, along with the characters ... pissed me off. they couldn't have had a REAL set, prosthetics for the heads and REAL suits for the body? Maybe this stuff works with an Avatar sized budget (and a better production house churning out the effects), but not at all here.

I think the CG could have been better if it was planned out better and given a 'John Carter' like post production of a full year of post.

But I agree that Killiwig and Tomar could have been a mix of animatronics and CG like in Hellboy. Hellyboy 2 for that matter. It's more surreal.

 

[Marvin]

But nobody died in Tony Stark's arms. He was drunk and fighting his best friend. It was obvious he wasn't taking their fight seriously until they busted out the repulsors later in the fight. Hence, why the music changed from light hearted mainstream music to more serious music.

no he just ended his only friendship in a fight could have killed them both. I have no memory of the music after the DJam portion, which is a testament to it's effectiveness on myself. You said not everything needs to be batman dark and that's true, but if your going to go there commit is all. I just think the scene was handled in a very ineffective way. IM one had a lot of effective scenes. Especially the first act. IM two no so much and DJ am didn't help.

Your problems with these movies are trivial at best. You are picking out one scene and ignoring all the great music in Iron Man 2. I don't think you can really complain about Marvel movies because Thor had a serious soundtrack. TIH did as well, but it wasn't as good or memorable as Thor/IM/IM2.

I have a feeling GL plays it's drama scenes straight as well, at least I hope so. If Hal really wants to impress marvel fanboys, he should throw a lantern party invite sinestro, have tomar on the turn table and have a silly fight to end their relation ship too.

all the "great" music is for nothing if it's not used when it's most needed. Thor handled it's drama well, everyone agrees. It had fun scene but they didn't infect Thor's Drama the way IM2's did. Trivial keeps it light, I'd rather not hi jack this thread more than I already have.

 

[Mysteryman]

Dear DC ,
Please hire real actresses if you want to also attract a female audiences . Films being dragged by CW talent to save money only hurts the quality in the long run

The goodpart of that is if they dont hire any more CW actors , then that leaves Tom Welling out.

 

[Lone]

Which brings up a point, that if they inteded humor to be in this movie, it failed. I went to a showing that was at least 80% full, and there was a meager chuckle here and there, but no one last. There was no "I need a horse!" moment in this film, not one. The movie was not funny.

Was your theater filled with film school snobs? Same goes for all you people claiming everyone hated i because mine was packed as hell and everyone had a good time.

I swear a lot of the people saying this movie flat out sucks are just doing it because they think it'll give them street cred with the snobby high brow film lovers clique or something.

If it weren't for the ****ed editing, this movie would be on par with IM, Thor and IH. This movie is in no way a huge failure some people are making it out to be.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

Prosthetics for the Guardians, Tomar-Re and Kilowog would have been best, like the Aliens in Star Trek:

 

[KalMart]

It's kinda' funny....back when the first trailer came out, and there was a lot of panic over the move's prospects because of the feel of it...my first reaction was "What did you expect?". Because my feeling, from the time it was announced there'd be a film, was that it would just be a fun effects extravaganza that wasn't too high maintenance et al....not going for anything too deep or profound or what have you. But there were a lot of reactions to that like "GL is so much more..." and so on...which I didn't dismiss, but it just looked like the movie was going for 'safe'...which didn't sit too well with many.

Now that the movie comes out, quite a few who liked it are asking "What did you expect? It's a fun popcorn flick.." and so on. I wonder if some of them are the same ones who didn't like that same response several months back. t:

 

[KalMart]

Was your theater filled with film school snobs? Same goes for all you people claiming everyone hated i because mine was packed as hell and everyone had a good time.

I swear a lot of the people saying this movie flat out sucks are just doing it because they think it'll give them street cred with the snobby high brow film lovers clique or something.

If it weren't for the ****ed editing, this movie would be on par with IM, Thor and IH. This movie is in no way a huge failure some people are making it out to be.

Film snobs also criticize editing. Just sayin'.

 

[dnno1]

My thoughts --

Full-on CG for the characters was a poor choice. At the very least for Tomar Re and Kilowog they could have been done with a prosthetic/anamatronic FOR THEIR HEADS. It was too jarring when the only thing 'real' on screen was Reynold's head. If they could pull off it off in-camera on Hellboy (ie. Abe), they could have done it here. CG the body because, after all, it's a CG suit. and the blue guardians. hell, they're basically just heads anyway! I saw no reason why they couldn't have been prosthetics and makeup. Oh, and that opening scene in the beginning that is 100% CG, along with the characters ... pissed me off. they couldn't have had a REAL set, prosthetics for the heads and REAL suits for the body? Maybe this stuff works with an Avatar sized budget (and a better production house churning out the effects), but not at all here.

Sorry, guy, but with the current techniques available CG is probably the best way to portray most of the alien creatures used in the film. Furthermore, it would have been a waste of time and money making costumes for all off those characters just for a 5 or 6 minute scene. Not only were you able to represent all 3600 members of the corps, but you are now able to store the models of the characters for future use in subsequent films or other projects.

 

[thewhyteman]

Saw it last night. I can see why reviews have been so poor.

At times the dialog was predictable and cliche.
Virtually no character arc due to lack of early development. Especially with Hector Hammond.

The script was lacking at times. No conflict between the Guardians and Sinestro.

Mark strong, Ryan Reynolds kicked ass in it.

DC missed a great opportunity to keep going strong post TDKR.
While its still awesome to see the characters come to life, the movie falls short.

 

[FreeRadical]

Prosthetics for the Guardians, Tomar-Re and Kilowog would have been best, like the Aliens in Star Trek:

Star Trek won a Best Make-Up Oscar for a reason......

CGI doesn't always work, if only film makers knew that.

 

[Octoberist]

Prosthetics for the Guardians, Tomar-Re and Kilowog would have been best, like the Aliens in Star Trek:

It looked good for a bg character!

We both mentioned Hellboy 1 and 2 and it's use of combining CG and animatronics. Or like in Pan's Labyrinth, a movie with great effects with a low budget.

 

[xxAPCxx]

I asked on the last page but nobody answered. Is the galaxy divided into sectors in the movie (and Earth is in sector 2814) or do all the GL's just like to hang out on Oa all the time?

Yes they do.

To everyone too that's complaing because he beat Paralax after getting the pep talk from his girlfriend, I actually liked that, and can understand it fully.

The truth is, I feel like Green Lantern can be tricky to adapt to film because so much of his power, as well as the powers of a lot of his allies and enemies is so strongly based on emotions that can be harder to show on screen than in print.

I'm an MMA fighter, and I remember before one of my fights I was absolutely terrified. You know, your in your underwear, and I was fighting in front of a crowd of more than 1000 people and against a guy who had previously beaten me. Like most fighters, I was scared.

My fiance (though she was just my girlfriend then) was there and I grabbed dinner with her and my sister about an hour before I had to be back in the locker room to start warming up. She could tell how nervous I was.

In while I was getting ready to warm up and go to fight, I got a text from her. All it said was: "No matter what happens, and no matter the outcome, just know that I'll be waiting for you when its over." It's hard to put into words how good that made me feel, and as a resulted, I ended up not only winning, but fighting the best fight of my career.

I guess the point I'm trying to make is that if 'will' is the source of your power, than comforting and inspiring words from the woman you love can be the best weapon. If I had a green lantern ring (and especially if she were in danger), I would've liked my chances against Paralax. Just sayin'.

As for what I thought of the movie, the only real issue I had was the hokey way Hammond looked and the pacing was off. I just didn't feel like there was much build up. During the climax I felt myself thinking 'okay so this is the climax'.

 

[Marvin]

Prosthetics for the Guardians, Tomar-Re and Kilowog would have been best, like the Aliens in Star Trek:

yea but sometimes it's hard to really get this things to emote, even in hellboy.
nothing beats the work in pirates dead mans chest though. NOTHING

My thoughts --

Full-on CG for the characters was a poor choice. At the very least for Tomar Re and Kilowog they could have been done with a prosthetic/anamatronic FOR THEIR HEADS. It was too jarring when the only thing 'real' on screen was Reynold's head. If they could pull off it off in-camera on Hellboy (ie. Abe), they could have done it here. CG the body because, after all, it's a CG suit. and the blue guardians. hell, they're basically just heads anyway! I saw no reason why they couldn't have been prosthetics and makeup. Oh, and that opening scene in the beginning that is 100% CG, along with the characters ... pissed me off. they couldn't have had a REAL set, prosthetics for the heads and REAL suits for the body? Maybe this stuff works with an Avatar sized budget (and a better production house churning out the effects), but not at all here.

funny you should say that