The Official Green Lantern Review Thread - Part 3

[dnno1]

Was your theater filled with film school snobs? Same goes for all you people claiming everyone hated i because mine was packed as hell and everyone had a good time.

I swear a lot of the people saying this movie flat out sucks are just doing it because they think it'll give them street cred with the snobby high brow film lovers clique or something.

If it weren't for the ****ed editing, this movie would be on par with IM, Thor and IH. This movie is in no way a huge failure some people are making it out to be.

People chuckeled in my theater. They even applauded when it was over. I don't know where the user named Tony Stak Lives, but obviously the people around him must have no sense of humor, or he wasn't really paying attention to them.

 

[Octoberist]

Sony gets gig because they're Sony and they probably have better deals than ILm because they're one of the few big CG houses in LA. But they are not to par with the big boys at all.

 

[Mysteryman]

I wouldn't go that far. IM2 still focused on Stark. Him dealing with the fame, him being self destructive and nihilstic due to his illness and also his fathers legacy.

Put it this way, the scene where Stark is watching his fathers old reels of footage, then comes across the message his father left for him, elevates IM2 above GL automatically.

SHIELD didn't even turn up til three quarters of the way through. And Avengers wasn't even mentioned until the second from last scene.

People can say what they want about Marvels films. But every single one of them has something Green Lantern doesn't. And that is heart and soul. Emotion. Charm.

Green Lantern is lifeless and sterile. There is no emotion. There is a bunch of flashy special FX, a derivative story line and appalingly soap opera-esque dialogue.

You make Good points about Tony and his dad,I liked those parts of the movie.but, Nick Fury didnt need to be there ,neither did Natasha, they were there to set up The Avengers.
I dont need an extended commercial for an upcoming film sneaked into the film I am already watching.

 

[Octoberist]

If John Carter ends being damn good, then perhaps Green lantern 2 could learn a thing it two from it.

 

[ElMariachi]

no he just ended his only friendship in a fight could have killed them both. I have no memory of the music after the DJam portion, which is a testament to it's effectiveness on myself. You said not everything needs to be batman dark and that's true, but if your going to go there commit is all. I just think the scene was handled in a very ineffective way. IM one had a lot of effective scenes. Especially the first act. IM two no so much and DJ am didn't help.

They did commit to the drama in the scene. You just expected the entire scene to be dramatic. The fight began in a lighthearted manner (thus lighthearted music) with them trading blows to indestructible suits and ended in a more serious manner once weapons were drawn. The music changed throughout the fight and became more ominious at the end once drunk Tony realized that Rhodey was seriously fighting him. I think the music and scene were handled fine here. Not perfect but it was a cool scene I thought.

I have a feeling GL plays it's drama scenes straight as well, at least I hope so. If Hal really wants to impress marvel fanboys, he should throw a lantern party invite sinestro, have tomar on the turn table and have a silly fight to end their relation ship too.

all the "great" music is for nothing if it's not used when it's most needed. Thor handled it's drama well, everyone agrees. It had fun scene but they didn't infect Thor's Drama the way IM2's did. Trivial keeps it light, I'd rather not hi jack this thread more than I already have.

I does play the drama straight but there is nothing to it. Straight drama is weak when you have bad writing and a bad musical score. The drama in Green Lantern wasn't very good compared to IM2. The fun, uplifting parts of Green Lantern is what made the GL an enjoyable flick. And that's how it should be for a character like GL.

The music in IM2 was handled fine. The best music was played during the best scenes, ie.--Whiplash building his arc reactor/opening credits, Tony discovering the new element, the racetrack scene, and the drone fight.

 

[KalMart]

My thoughts --

Full-on CG for the characters was a poor choice. At the very least for Tomar Re and Kilowog they could have been done with a prosthetic/anamatronic FOR THEIR HEADS. It was too jarring when the only thing 'real' on screen was Reynold's head. If they could pull off it off in-camera on Hellboy (ie. Abe), they could have done it here. CG the body because, after all, it's a CG suit. and the blue guardians. hell, they're basically just heads anyway! I saw no reason why they couldn't have been prosthetics and makeup. Oh, and that opening scene in the beginning that is 100% CG, along with the characters ... pissed me off. they couldn't have had a REAL set, prosthetics for the heads and REAL suits for the body? Maybe this stuff works with an Avatar sized budget (and a better production house churning out the effects), but not at all here.

Sony gets gig because they're Sony and they probably have better deals than ILm because they're one of the few big CG houses in LA. But they are not to par with the big boys at all.

Favreau made a good point in a recent ILM documentary...he basically said that CG effects are sophisticated enough now that they're only limited by the imagination and, more importantly, the skill of the filmmaker...so the ultimate responsibility lies with the filmmaker to get them 'right'....to recognize and push for better results when they look 'fake' or too CG-like, etc.

Obviously, if the production runs out of time and money, it can affect things no matter what. But I do agree that a large duty lies with the filmmaker to get the best out of whatever tools are being used to make the film. The only weird thing is, in this case...Sony Imageworks has been the main effects house for most of the least-regarded big-time effects in recent years. I don't know about you, but I rarely see a lot of comments about ILM or WETA dropping the ball on effects. So...maybe some tools really are better than others.

 

[ElMariachi]

You make Good points about Tony and his dad,I liked those parts of the movie.but, Nick Fury didnt need to be there ,neither did Natasha, they were there to set up The Avengers.
I dont need an extended commercial for an upcoming film sneaked into the film I am already watching.

I hate to keep talking about this on the GL thread but this argument is the most annoying one to date for a comic movie. There wasn't any buildup for Avengers in Iron Man 2. It was barely even mentioned and had nothing to do with the plot.

-Tony mentioning not wanting to join the 'super secret boy band'.
-A Captain America SHIELD, Hulk Easter Egg.
-Nick Fury talking about Avengers at the very end of the movie.
-Post credits Thor scene.

That is all. Hardly a commercial for Avengers.

 

[The Morningstar]

Yea, the idea that IM2 was an Avengers commercial is just flat out ********.

I can understand not liking SHIELDs involvement. But Avengers commercial? Not a chance.

 

[Mysteryman]

Again Natasha, didnt need to be there , she was in nearly the entire film.
She is a member of The Avengers .
Ditto Fury , who had three scenes .

 

[WormyT]

How did GL comics readers feel about the constructs almost looking real? They shot real orange fire, real bullets and semi green water.
In the books the constructs always appear like green energye. A flame thrower would shoot green fire too.

Didn't bother me too much.

 

[Marvin]

They did commit to the drama in the scene. You just expected the entire scene to be dramatic. The fight began in a lighthearted manner (thus lighthearted music) with them trading blows to indestructible suits and ended in a more serious manner once weapons were drawn. The music changed throughout the fight and became more ominious at the end once drunk Tony realized that Rhodey was seriously fighting him. I think the music and scene were handled fine here. Not perfect but it was a cool scene I thought.

I does play the drama straight but there is nothing to it. Straight drama is weak when you have bad writing and a bad musical score. The drama in Green Lantern wasn't very good compared to IM2. The fun, uplifting parts of Green Lantern is what made the GL an enjoyable flick. And that's how it should be for a character like GL.

The music in IM2 was handled fine. The best music was played during the best scenes, ie.--Whiplash building his arc reactor/opening credits, Tony discovering the new element, the racetrack scene, and the drone fight.

well it seems it's not just the lantern fans that are willing to see the best in the presented material.

I assume even you will admit that it could have been better.

 

[Man of Tomorrow]

What's weird is the film seemed almost aware it was playing with tired superhero movie cliches.


"Doesn't the hero always get the girl?" Cut to cliche balcony scene.

 

[rnewbz]

I hate to keep talking about this on the GL thread but this argument is the most annoying one to date for a comic movie. There wasn't any buildup for Avengers in Iron Man 2. It was barely even mentioned and had nothing to do with the plot.

-Tony mentioning not wanting to join the 'super secret boy band'.
-A Captain America SHIELD, Hulk Easter Egg.
-Nick Fury talking about Avengers at the very end of the movie.
-Post credits Thor scene.

That is all. Hardly a commercial for Avengers.

Thank You.

 

[Superhero 101]

Okay i just saw it and i think it was an okay movie. I don't know why some of the critics are bashing it but it wasn't as bad as Ghost Rider but it wasn't as great as Iron Man if i would have to compare it i would compare this movie to the First Fantastic Four Movie.

Here are My Pros : Ryan Reynolds as Green Lantern i think he pulled it off! The CGI was pretty good. Blake Lively was okay not great but not bad she may seem bland sometimes but it wasn't that bad as some people are complaining. The Action was pretty good as well especially at the end with all the Constructs that was pretty neat. All the Oa scenes were the highlights of the film.

The Cons: Really Bad Pacing/Editing i mean each scene would just jump to the next the transitioning wasn't very smooth. Sinestro was pointless as was Hector Hammonds character. Also Waller's character was waisted it's like she was just there because of who she is in the comics. and the directing was pretty bad i mean i was expecting more from Campbell who made Casino Royale which is one of my favorite films!

But overall the film was enjoyable some parts did drag a bit but it really is a fun film to go and watch with friends and family and i think people who are skeptic of it should go watch it because they might be surprised.

i don't want to give it a 6/10 but i don't want to give it a 7 either so i guess i will give it a 6.5/10

 

[EliteF50]

I hate to keep talking about this on the GL thread but this argument is the most annoying one to date for a comic movie. There wasn't any buildup for Avengers in Iron Man 2. It was barely even mentioned and had nothing to do with the plot.

-Tony mentioning not wanting to join the 'super secret boy band'.
-A Captain America SHIELD, Hulk Easter Egg.
-Nick Fury talking about Avengers at the very end of the movie.
-Post credits Thor scene.

That is all. Hardly a commercial for Avengers.

Doesn't change the fact that the movie sucked.

 

[terry78]

Saw a sign at the theatre near my place saying it's sold out until tonight's showings. So reviews ain't deterring everyone.

 

[Rowsdower!]

Just curious, did any of you see Mark Millar's comments on this movie?

I'm sorry, but I wish to God this guy would never open his mouth publicly, because whenever he does, he just sounds like a major *****e. Worse than The Phantom? Really, Millar?

I also have trouble taking anything he says seriously considering he had NO problem with a movie studio taking his brilliant Wanted comic and turning it into a completely unrecognizable POS.

 

[Mysteryman]

What's weird is the film seemed almost aware it was playing with tired superhero movie cliches.


"Doesn't the hero always get the girl?" Cut to cliche balcony scene.

Well, that line is used in a lot of different Action genres not just Superhero films.

 

[Rock Sexton]

People chuckeled in my theater. They even applauded when it was over. I don't know where the user named Tony Stak Lives, but obviously the people around him must have no sense of humor, or he wasn't really paying attention to them.

Did they throw roses at the screen too?

 

[Marvin]

How did GL comics readers feel about the constructs almost looking real? They shot real orange fire, real bullets and semi green water.
In the books the constructs always appear like green energye. A flame thrower would shoot green fire too.

Didn't bother me too much.

my only concern is that they don't inspire imagination. I remember the early day kyle rayner. I would spend so much time looking at the constructs and imagining what myself as an artist would make. I assume with Hal it's different or maybe it's just WB.

I do prefer the approach seen in tron legacy though.
specially the light jets

Just curious, did any of you see Mark Millar's comments on this movie?

I'm sorry, but I wish to God this guy would never open his mouth publicly, because whenever he does, he just sounds like a major *****e. Worse than The Phantom? Really, Millar?

I also have trouble taking anything he says seriously considering he had NO problem with a movie studio taking his brilliant Wanted comic and turning it into a completely unrecognizable POS.

where can I find his comments?

 

[Marvin]

Well, that line is used in a lot of different Action genres not just Superhero films.

yea but this is green lantern, you know 24% rotten and all that

 

[TheCardPlayer]

This film is the worst thing that could happen to a comic book property. I didn't know anything about the Green Lantern before seeing this, and afterwards I want to know even less.

 

[WormyT]

Just curious, did any of you see Mark Millar's comments on this movie?

I'm sorry, but I wish to God this guy would never open his mouth publicly, because whenever he does, he just sounds like a major *****e. Worse than The Phantom? Really, Millar?

I also have trouble taking anything he says seriously considering he had NO problem with a movie studio taking his brilliant Wanted comic and turning it into a completely unrecognizable POS.

Its not the worst comic movie ever. That would be B&R or Catwoman.
But, I agree with some of what he said.
It certainly did not look like a $300Mil movie. I'm sure $100Mil of that was spent on the Marketing.Giant Billboards litter every US city.(they are all over buses and buildings in San francisco).
I personally don't except the "oh its just a fun superhero movie" argument overall. Every sci-fi/Superhero movie that costs over $150Mil should strive to be as good as T2, Starwars. Why settle for less quality? The opening Krypton scenes in Superman-the movie are 1 trillion times more dramatic than anything in GL. Yes, Mark Strong was great but those scenes were written sooooo poorly.

 

[Mysteryman]

I dont have a link but Comic Book Movie has Millars comments.

 

[Octoberist]

this film is the worst thing that could happen to a comic book property. I didn't know anything about the green lantern before seeing this, and afterwards i want to know even less.

that's a shame.