Sequels The Official "How YOU would do Spider-Man 4" thread

[Hectorminator]

Why the hell does everyone love the Shocker so much? Everyone knows he'd be a bigger waste of screen time than the Sandman, right? Man, everybody's ideas for Spider-Man 4 start with "Have the Shocker rob a bank..." If there's any crappy villain that deserves to be in a movie, it's Electro, Vulture, or even Mysterio. But Shocker? C'mon.

 

[Visionary]

I'd take Shocker over a symbiote character any day of the week, talk about a waste of screentime.

 

[Venom 1988]

Why the hell does everyone love the Shocker so much? Everyone knows he'd be a bigger waste of screen time than the Sandman, right? Man, everybody's ideas for Spider-Man 4 start with "Have the Shocker rob a bank..." If there's any crappy villain that deserves to be in a movie, it's Electro, Vulture, or even Mysterio. But Shocker? C'mon.

Because Shockers awesome. Hes got a cool yet sorta campy looking suit, which can defend against most attacks. Plus hes defeated Spidey more times than most of Spideys rogue gallery can even boast about.

 

[Phoenix_Flare]

The one thing these movies hasn't touched on his Peter's science background in T.A.S this was greatly explored...the problem with these films were that they were to lovey-dovey...which made Spider-Man soft at times...My Spider 4 is simple since Harry is dead we can finally introduce the Hardy's, Lizard, Morbius, a villian cameo, Dr. Maria Crawford/Kraven(as scientist), MJ should have little screentime(her acting career has taken off), they should focus on Black Cat/ Spider-Man's relationsip

The problem is you people want the samething...everything can't follow the comics or the 1st 3 movies...I like the Lizard/Morbius as villains, visually they'll be stunning, Felicia becomes Black Cat to help/stop Morbius, but in the end she kills him, the love story would follow Felicia/Morbius and NOT MJ/Peter she would have beauty n brains, and Spider-Man learns to work with a partner

Keep in mind they wanted to intro. Felicia/B.C. in S2 if they would've done that they would have done her justice and you ppl would be complaining about how lil' screentime she had...If they decide to follow my vision of S4 the new characters would be fleshed out better and would tie in with eachother unlike S3

My idea may sound crappy, but I'm not a writer, but I think this would be a interesting story 2 villians vs. 2 heroes

 

[thejon93]

Why the hell does everyone love the Shocker so much? Everyone knows he'd be a bigger waste of screen time than the Sandman, right? Man, everybody's ideas for Spider-Man 4 start with "Have the Shocker rob a bank..." If there's any crappy villain that deserves to be in a movie, it's Electro, Vulture, or even Mysterio. But Shocker? C'mon.

Man, you are a cry-baby. If you don't like it, ignore it. Anyways, it's just simple and it would be nice to see. Considering most fans have this in their ideas or fan fics, I think that pretty much says that the majority would rather have Spidey go up against a known villain in a small role for once rather then the usual clache men/women robbing the bank.

 

[GoldGoblin]

If Shocker had a cameo role,the yellow knitted mask,could easily be a ski mask,and for his blasters,you could have him tell spidey where he got them after spidey has defeated him.That some old guy called the Tinkerer gave them to him if he would steal a certain artifact from the museum for him.

The Shocker could say that the Tinkerer told him that in two hours the blasters will not work anymore,but if the Shocker gives the artifact to the Tinkerer,the Tinkerer will take the chip out of them that would shut them down to make them stop from working.

 

[Hectorminator]

Because Shockers awesome. Hes got a cool yet sorta campy looking suit, which can defend against most attacks. Plus hes defeated Spidey more times than most of Spideys rogue gallery can even boast about.

Yeah, I get how people just want to see Spidey's Rogue Gallery represented in the movies, but it just seems to me that EVERYONE thinks of the Shocker as the one "cameo" villain first, and no one else. That's everyone's first thought. I kinda don't get his appeal, to me he's just a poor man's Electro. Which I guess is why people like him, lol.

 

[Venom 1988]

I kinda don't get his appeal, to me he's just a poor man's Electro. Which I guess is why people like him, lol.

Except he and Electro have totally different powers....

 

[Victarion]

There's two things to be resolved here:

1.) Mary Jane forgiving Peter for ***** slapping her. You don't recover from that in a few hours' time. I'm sure she was feeling apprehensive and uncertain in regards to their relationship at the end of 3.

2.) The wedding. The ending shot of the movie. Mary Jane has come to accept that fact that Peter was under the influence of an alien, that he wasn't acting of his own accord.

3.) The Lizard--his origin could be that Doctor Connors' lab was attacked by the Hobgoblin. Who is the Hobgoblin? Bernard. He loved Harry like a son, and in a way, Peter led that "son" to his death through friendship. So Bernard suits up seeking revenge, while Peter must deal with Lizard. Mary Jane must overcome any fears Dark Peter gave her in Spider-Man 3.

After that, I think they'd be pushing it for good stories.

 

[thejon93]

There's two things to be resolved here:

1.) Mary Jane forgiving Peter for ***** slapping her. You don't recover from that in a few hours' time. I'm sure she was feeling apprehensive and uncertain in regards to their relationship at the end of 3.

2.) The wedding. The ending shot of the movie. Mary Jane has come to accept that fact that Peter was under the influence of an alien, that he wasn't acting of his own accord.

3.) The Lizard--his origin could be that Doctor Connors' lab was attacked by the Hobgoblin. Who is the Hobgoblin? Bernard. He loved Harry like a son, and in a way, Peter led that "son" to his death through friendship. So Bernard suits up seeking revenge, while Peter must deal with Lizard. Mary Jane must overcome any fears Dark Peter gave her in Spider-Man 3.

After that, I think they'd be pushing it for good stories.

What the hell?! Are you Uwe Boll?! This is total crap, BernErd ain't The Hobgoblin first off, second off, I'd rather not have reference to the third film unless it's something that doesn't have anything to do with the symbiote, that was BS.

 

[Victarion]

Its BS that happened and the reprecussions it would have on Peter's relationship with Mary Jane need to be resolved here.

 

[thejon93]

Its BS that happened and the reprecussions it would have on Peter's relationship with Mary Jane need to be resolved here.

Maybe I'm still po'd at how bad 3 was through my eyes and how overrated it truly was but that Bernerd crap is just... crap.

 

[Victarion]

You're right...it was crap (Bernard...just a tease at how Raimi likes baddies connected to Petey. Imagine this guy zooming around NY on a glider lol). I don't know if I'd call it overrated; there seem to be very few fans on these forums. Would you think that Mary Jane might be skeptical about continuing a relationship with Peter, in light of what happened to him in part 3?

 

[thejon93]

You're right...it was crap (Bernard...just a tease at how Raimi likes baddies connected to Petey. Imagine this guy zooming around NY on a glider lol). I don't know if I'd call it overrated; there seem to be very few fans on these forums. Would you think that Mary Jane might be skeptical about continuing a relationship with Peter, in light of what happened to him in part 3?

I wouldn't mind it's just, God, I'm just sick of this Mary Jane and Peter crap. If they did it right like in the first film it wouldn't be a damn problem for me but by now you'd come to expect Mary Jane to understand that Peter's already got a whole bunch of other crap on his shoulders, in fact, he's got the whole world on his shoulders and it's like she expects him to be there for her every minute and second of the day. I think they should make her character more supportive over Peter and not this cry-girl, damsel in distress crap.

 

[Victarion]

That would've been a nice character arc for the third part. It would've made her so much stronger if she started to feel just a *little* jealous, but held it in, hoping it would go away or something like that.

So you want to see Lizard as well for part 4?

 

[Hectorminator]

MJ needs to break up with Peter at the beginning of the next one, either go to LA and get some work, or get some good work in NY, and then she'll lighten up.

In Spidey 3 she was really annoying and needy, but lest us not forget that she DID she her boyfriend very uncharacteristically kiss another woman in front of her, so I chalk it all up to bad writing. Peter isn't that much of a jerk, or that stupid, and MJ really isn't that annoying.

Have her break up because she says to Pete that she can't keep seeing him beaten up and getting shot at on the news, night after night. And especially after seeing Spidey almost die at the hands of the savage Lizard, she needs to let him go because she thinks he's gonna die any day and it hurts her too much. Just like a cop's wife keeps asking him to retire.

 

[JMalone61]

Kingpin, Cletus Kasady, & VENOM..

Kingpin's underworld of organized crime is developing, Cpt. Stacy is trying to bring him down.. Serial killer, Cletus, is killing off elderly woman (in attempts to find/kill his mother)..

With little on Kingpin, Spider-Man follows the Cletus trail, but Venom, obsessed with killing Spider-Man, comes out of nowhere.. Cletus threatens Kingpin's mother, and with Spider-Man "gone" (missing since Venom did a number on him), Kingpin resorts to illegal tactics to try to stop Cletus..

In a star crossed finale, Spider-Man brings down Venom & Cletus.. Nick Fury takes Venom with intent to study him.. Cletus is off to jail.. Kingpin isn't captured, but Spider-Man swears he'll stop him.

 

[Arcturus]

No.

No!

NOOO!

NOOOOOOO!

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!

Thankyou, that is all.

 

[JMalone61]

Why not? Kingpin can be Micheal Clarke Duncan and Ben Affleck can come in as Daredevil and they all go to Chuck E. Cheese??

 

[Venom 1988]

I don't care if your kidding or not, but Fox owns Kingpin and Daredevil so they cant use them.

 

[Holy spirit]

They should remake spiderman from the proper origin story and have Gwen stacy die like the comics. Even the comics were more dramatic and yet they can not add that fundimental story to the film? Then introduce Mary Jane and then Venom if need be.

 

[Visionary]

No.

 

[thejon93]

MJ needs to break up with Peter at the beginning of the next one, either go to LA and get some work, or get some good work in NY, and then she'll lighten up.

In Spidey 3 she was really annoying and needy, but lest us not forget that she DID she her boyfriend very uncharacteristically kiss another woman in front of her, so I chalk it all up to bad writing. Peter isn't that much of a jerk, or that stupid, and MJ really isn't that annoying.

Have her break up because she says to Pete that she can't keep seeing him beaten up and getting shot at on the news, night after night. And especially after seeing Spidey almost die at the hands of the savage Lizard, she needs to let him go because she thinks he's gonna die any day and it hurts her too much. Just like a cop's wife keeps asking him to retire.

That's a good plot for the two, I like that idea. Although, sadly I can honestly hear people crying over it when they hear that it could happen in the movie. If they had stuff like this in 2 & 3 then they would have done much better with the love story.

Kingpin, Cletus Kasady, & VENOM..

Kingpin's underworld of organized crime is developing, Cpt. Stacy is trying to bring him down.. Serial killer, Cletus, is killing off elderly woman (in attempts to find/kill his mother)..

With little on Kingpin, Spider-Man follows the Cletus trail, but Venom, obsessed with killing Spider-Man, comes out of nowhere.. Cletus threatens Kingpin's mother, and with Spider-Man "gone" (missing since Venom did a number on him), Kingpin resorts to illegal tactics to try to stop Cletus..

In a star crossed finale, Spider-Man brings down Venom & Cletus.. Nick Fury takes Venom with intent to study him.. Cletus is off to jail.. Kingpin isn't captured, but Spider-Man swears he'll stop him.

Umm... seems a little to clache if you ask me.

 

[Hectorminator]

That's a good plot for the two, I like that idea. Although, sadly I can honestly hear people crying over it when they hear that it could happen in the movie. If they had stuff like this in 2 & 3 then they would have done much better with the love story.
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Hey, thanks. But I don't really see how people would be crying over this if it did happen in the movies. I totally disagree with people who say that Pete and MJ should be married in the next film, it's way too early for that.

Don't believe me? Watch the end of Spider-Man 3, keeping in mind Peter punched MJ in the face earlier and MJ broke up with Pete "against her will." They really kind of end on open-ended terms, could be back together, could be just friends making up after their friend died in a horrible Venom accident, we don't know for sure.

I'm just saying let's draw out the relationship a bit, have Pete date Gwen Stacy until she dies, then he and MJ can get back together in part 6, ending with an engagement. And Aunt May dying of natural causes, but that's another thread, my bad.

 

[GoldGoblin]

What they need to do is restart the franchise and use the "Spectacular Spider-Man" cartoon frame by frame,word for word and take 6 episodes and make them into 1 live action movie.

We would get tons of character development,more action,better stories,etc.