The Official Marc Guggenheim & Script Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

[Doctor Jones]

That's good. And now with Campbell on it has omproved alot. But I hoiped they kept the basic of the first draft. If doing all of this, we could be in for a fantastic film.

 

[Assassin]

Technically another ring is more power.

Not really, they retconned it so that more willpower = more power, the in GLC we got sinestro corps memeber Mongul using more than 1 ring, but that may work diffrent on fear.

 

[The Major]

Not really, they retconned it so that more willpower = more power, the in GLC we got sinestro corps memeber Mongul using more than 1 ring, but that may work diffrent on fear.

That explanation doesn't make sense to me. The reason two rings should be more powerful is that it gives the wielder two or more weapons instead of one. An opponent could take out one ring while still the wielder still remains armed with other weapons. Its similar to a police officer having two guns instead of one. That's why a second ring makes a GL more powerful IMO.

 

[Shemtov]

can someone send me this over PM?

 

[Doctor Jones]

Shh! Didn't you read the rules from the mods?

 

[Lobo]

can someone send me this over PM?

:facepalm, read the announcement, do NOT ask again.

 

[Assassin]

That explanation doesn't make sense to me. The reason two rings should be more powerful is that it gives the wielder two or more weapons instead of one. An opponent could take out one ring while still the wielder still remains armed with other weapons. Its similar to a police officer having two guns instead of one. That's why a second ring makes a GL more powerful IMO.

Lets say you are a police officer, and you have 1 gun, 10 bullets, will power is the bullets right? Then i hand you another gun, no bullets... are you stronger now?

Make sense? Its all about the will power, or in this case, bullets.

 

[The Major]

Lets say you are a police officer, and you have 1 gun, 10 bullets, will power is the bullets right? Then i hand you another gun, no bullets... are you stronger now?

Why would a police officer have two guns but only have bullets in one gun? That makes no sense. Of course there are bullets in both guns. The officer would be strong when he loses his first loaded gun and relies on his other loaded gun to continue to fight. Without that second gun they'd be in danger of getting killed since they'd have no defenses against an armed enemy.

Make sense? Its all about the will power, or in this case, bullets.

Bullets and willpower mean nothing unless the wielder has a weapon to use them with. Police officers just need guns, GL's need rings.

 

[Lobo]

Lets say you are a police officer, and you have 1 gun, 10 bullets, will power is the bullets right? Then i hand you another gun, no bullets... are you stronger now?

Make sense? Its all about the will power, or in this case, bullets.

The man is the gun, the ring is the bullet. So extra ring= extra bullets.

 

[Assassin]

The man is the gun, the ring is the bullet. So extra ring= extra bullets.

wrong, willpower is the bullets, without willpower the ring wont work for you, it almost drain green arrow of all his energy when he put it on to only make a arrow construct in rebirth, he almost passed out. when batman put it on the first time, he made it work but his face was beaded with sweat.

 

[Assassin]

Why would a police officer have two guns but only have bullets in one gun? That makes no sense. Of course there are bullets in both guns. The officer would be strong when he loses his first loaded gun and relies on his other loaded gun to continue to fight. Without that second gun they'd be in danger of getting killed since they'd have no defenses against an armed enemy.


Bullets and willpower mean nothing unless the wielder has a weapon to use them with. Police officers just need guns, GL's need rings.

stop being stupid, it was an anology

 

[Lobo]

wrong, willpower is the bullets, without willpower the ring wont work for you, it almost drain green arrow of all his energy when he put it on to only make a arrow construct in rebirth, he almost passed out. when batman put it on the first time, he made it work but his face was beaded with sweat.

What is that willpower going to do for someone not wearing the ring?

 

[Assassin]

the ring is activated by willpower

 

[Assassin]

what is a bullet gonna do for some one with no gun?

 

[The Major]

Assassin:

You're half getting it. A second gun, that is loaded, for a police officer means they are not defenseless once an enemy takes their first gun out of the situation. It's the same with GL's and their rings.

 

[Assassin]

but i said i handed you a 2nd gun thats empty, and you still have your first 10 bullets and gun.

that isnt gonna make you stronger, you'll run out faster

 

[Shemtov]

:facepalm, read the announcement, do NOT ask again.

What announcement?

 

[Chewy]

The announcement that says not to ask for scripts

 

[Webhead2006]

ssh doesnt want members passing around in posts/pm copyrighted materials.

 

[Octoberist]

who thinks that it'll be anti-climatic to have a LEGION FIGHT FIRST then having a fight with Hector Hammond? Hector is petty compared to Legion and that was a problem with the script.

 

[Chewy]

I think just about everyone thinks that. Except, apparently, the writers.

 

[Webhead2006]

well we dont know what was changed, modified, removed, switched around in later drafts of the script. For all we know they could have made legion final fight and hammond earlier.

 

[Doctor Jones]

They got Legion and Hammond.

Hmm, I think legion had a nice little storyline, it was just Hammond who needs to be worked on the most.

And was I the only one who didn't care for all the Green Lanterns coming to earth to help Hal fight? Maybe it's something that will look better on film.

 

[The Major]

but i said i handed you a 2nd gun thats empty, and you still have your first 10 bullets and gun.

Why would a cop have a second gun that's empty? They keep their back-up weapons loaded at all times IIRC. That's why they can use them the instant the first gun is not in play. It's not like the GL's or Mongul need to recharge a second ring after their first one is useless. They're all charged to 100%.

that isnt gonna make you stronger, you'll run out faster

Not if they lost their first gun in the fight. A second loaded gun would allow them to continue easily.

 

[RyanJ]

Major, you're just describing a backup weapon. If the cop's first gun ran out of bullets he would have his backup gun. He's not really anymore powerful just able to shoot longer. I agree that the willpower is the bullet and the ring is the gun. However, I also think that a second ring would add more power to a Green Lantern. If you've got one gun you can only shoot one bullet at a time no matter how much ammunition you have. I think a second ring would let them focus their willpower twice as much and be twice as powerful. Assuming of course the bearer has that much willpower.

We know the rings have a limit of how much willpower they can actually put out as power or whatever you want to call it. There was an issue of GL Corps with John Stuart that showed this. He was up in space doing some Green Lantern junk and his ring gave the message "Willpower exceeding power ring limitations" and the construct he was making dissipated. That could have been touched on before but it was the first time I saw it.