The Official Marc Guggenheim & Script Discussion Thread (Spoilers)

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Major, you're just describing a backup weapon. If the cop's first gun ran out of bullets he would have his backup gun. He's not really anymore powerful just able to shoot longer. I agree that the willpower is the bullet and the ring is the gun. However, I also think that a second ring would add more power to a Green Lantern. If you've got one gun you can only shoot one bullet at a time no matter how much ammunition you have. I think a second ring would let them focus their willpower twice as much and be twice as powerful. Assuming of course the bearer has that much willpower.

A back-up weapon does make a police officer stronger then they'd be without it. The advantage is being able to shoot with twice as many bullets in one director or in two directions instead of being limited to one. I'm talking about the GL rings being powerful by somehow boosting their abilities just that a secondary weapon would allow to an officer or GL to remain combat ready were their primary weapon disabled or lost.

We know the rings have a limit of how much willpower they can actually put out as power or whatever you want to call it. There was an issue of GL Corps with John Stuart that showed this. He was up in space doing some Green Lantern junk and his ring gave the message "Willpower exceeding power ring limitations" and the construct he was making dissipated. That could have been touched on before but it was the first time I saw it.

Which won't do Jhn any good if his ring gets stolen or broken. A back-up ring would allow him to keep on using that power without being defenseless against an enemy.
 
Enough of this now. Get back to discussing the script, please.
 
They got Legion and Hammond.

Hmm, I think legion had a nice little storyline, it was just Hammond who needs to be worked on the most.

And was I the only one who didn't care for all the Green Lanterns coming to earth to help Hal fight? Maybe it's something that will look better on film.

What they need to do is to switch it around..have the Hammond fight first than Legion.

The only problem being is how to do it. IN theory, what they have right now (Legion first, then Hammond) makes sense only because it shows Hal's heroics, along with the rest of the Corp on Earth.
 
If this is the same script i read, i really dont like the use of more than one ring = more power

Technically another ring is more power.

Not really, they retconned it so that more willpower = more power, the in GLC we got sinestro corps memeber Mongul using more than 1 ring, but that may work diffrent on fear.

That explanation doesn't make sense to me. The reason two rings should be more powerful is that it gives the wielder two or more weapons instead of one. An opponent could take out one ring while still the wielder still remains armed with other weapons. Its similar to a police officer having two guns instead of one. That's why a second ring makes a GL more powerful IMO.

Actually you are both kind of right. If you have more rings you have more power since you have x-times the energy at your command. Given that, you are still only limited by your willpower.

Lets say you are a police officer, and you have 1 gun, 10 bullets, will power is the bullets right? Then i hand you another gun, no bullets... are you stronger now?

Make sense? Its all about the will power, or in this case, bullets.

:waa::indy:

Willpower is not the bullet, it is the catalyst, the flint stone. Willpower is needed to operate a gun and is independent of the bullets.
 
Wow, I didn't now the script was out...listen can someone who has read it help me with something?

Everytime a film that has villains and heros in it I ALWAYS want to know how the final battle was and what ends up happening to the main villain.

Can someone please describe in great detail what happens at the end as well as how the main bad guy(s) die off? :::crosses fingers the main villain(s) die off...I hate when they 'go to jail' or just 'disappear'...bah!::::

Thanks! :woot:
 
it was only the first draft of the script leaked out many months ago. But it has been rewritten 2-4 times since that.
 
Wow, I didn't now the script was out...listen can someone who has read it help me with something?

Everytime a film that has villains and heros in it I ALWAYS want to know how the final battle was and what ends up happening to the main villain.

Can someone please describe in great detail what happens at the end as well as how the main bad guy(s) die off? :::crosses fingers the main villain(s) die off...I hate when they 'go to jail' or just 'disappear'...bah!::::

Thanks! :woot:

Legion:
Before creating the Green Lantern Corps, the Guardians of Universe tried to use the power of fear, represented by the color Yellow, to guard the universe. The ressult was Legion, a giant yellow espace monster, with the size of a whale, the tentacles of an Octopus and the sharpned tooths of a Shark. After being rejected, Legion focused his powers to achieve only one goal: Destroy the Corps. He's a unstoppable killing machine completelly unvulnerable to the green energy the fuels the GL's power rings. After killing four Green Lanterns, Legion, who is considered a myth by the GLs, attacks Abin Sur, killing him. Before being crushed, the alien is able to hurt Legion and go to Earth to find a sucessor. After that, Legion hides to recover, but a especial task-force led by Sinestro finds and captures him. Sinestro tries to colect a piece of Legion's armor to create a yellow ring, but the monster escapes and creats havock in Oa before Hal Jordan, using 10 rings (one in each finger) and powered by the Central Battery, completelly desintegrates him with a shot with the equivalent power of a atomic bomb.

Hector Hammond:
Hector Hammond is a FBI legist, and senator Robert Hammond's son. His father's influence is the only thing that keeps him in a regular job, because Hector's arrogant, disgusting, unstable and explosive personality is very dislikeable. When Abin Sur's corpse is found, Hector is enlisted to conduct the autopsy, because Alan Scott, the leader of the secret governmental agency that finds Abin, and a old friend of his, fears that, whatever killed him, is menacing Earth, forcing him to recour to Hector. During the autopsy, Hector finds a piece of Legion's armor in Abin's corpse, and touches it, being infected by the yellow radiation. This radiation starts to mutate his organism, evoluting it. Thanks to that, Hector develops extraordinary mental powers that he use to torture everyone that mistreated him, like the boss that didn't liked him, the assistent that turned him down and etc. Hector eventually sets up a revenge against his father, that saw his as a disappointment, but, when he manages to kill him, he regrets, and decides to blame everyone else. To make things even worse, the yellow energy keeps mutating him, transforming him in to a horrendous creature, with a giant head and a atrophieated body. After reading GL's mind and discovering he bears the ring of the alien that "ruined his life", hector sets revenge against him, ending up in a violent showdown on Ferris Aircraft. Hal offers his ring in exchange for the life of his girlfriend, trapped in a desgovernated jet, and Hector accepts, but, as soons as he puts the ring, he's judged as "unfit" and his mind is overcharged by the green power. After everything is settled down, Hector, now cathatonic, is taken away by Alan's men, never to be seen again.
 
Legion:
Before creating the Green Lantern Corps, the Guardians of Universe tried to use the power of fear, represented by the color Yellow, to guard the universe. The ressult was Legion, a giant yellow espace monster, with the size of a whale, the tentacles of an Octopus and the sharpned tooths of a Shark. After being rejected, Legion focused his powers to achieve only one goal: Destroy the Corps. He's a unstoppable killing machine completelly unvulnerable to the green energy the fuels the GL's power rings. After killing four Green Lanterns, Legion, who is considered a myth by the GLs, attacks Abin Sur, killing him. Before being crushed, the alien is able to hurt Legion and go to Earth to find a sucessor. After that, Legion hides to recover, but a especial task-force led by Sinestro finds and captures him. Sinestro tries to colect a piece of Legion's armor to create a yellow ring, but the monster escapes and creats havock in Oa before Hal Jordan, using 10 rings (one in each finger) and powered by the Central Battery, completelly desintegrates him with a shot with the equivalent power of a atomic bomb.

Hector Hammond:
Hector Hammond is a FBI legist, and senator Robert Hammond's son. His father's influence is the only thing that keeps him in a regular job, because Hector's arrogant, disgusting, unstable and explosive personality is very dislikeable. When Abin Sur's corpse is found, Hector is enlisted to conduct the autopsy, because Alan Scott, the leader of the secret governmental agency that finds Abin, and a old friend of his, fears that, whatever killed him, is menacing Earth, forcing him to recour to Hector. During the autopsy, Hector finds a piece of Legion's armor in Abin's corpse, and touches it, being infected by the yellow radiation. This radiation starts to mutate his organism, evoluting it. Thanks to that, Hector develops extraordinary mental powers that he use to torture everyone that mistreated him, like the boss that didn't liked him, the assistent that turned him down and etc. Hector eventually sets up a revenge against his father, that saw his as a disappointment, but, when he manages to kill him, he regrets, and decides to blame everyone else. To make things even worse, the yellow energy keeps mutating him, transforming him in to a horrendous creature, with a giant head and a atrophieated body. After reading GL's mind and discovering he bears the ring of the alien that "ruined his life", hector sets revenge against him, ending up in a violent showdown on Ferris Aircraft. Hal offers his ring in exchange for the life of his girlfriend, trapped in a desgovernated jet, and Hector accepts, but, as soons as he puts the ring, he's judged as "unfit" and his mind is overcharged by the green power. After everything is settled down, Hector, now cathatonic, is taken away by Alan's men, never to be seen again.


i think i like the 1st one better :-)

also, i can't wait to finally see a GL movie
 
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Haven't read the script yet myself, but I did have my hopes for this film bolstered through wikipedia last night. Found out the man who created/writes the show Kings (which I thought was superbly written when I saw the first episode last night) is one of the writers for the GL movie. God, I'm excited.
 
It's written by three guys. Berlanti and two other dudes whom I forgot there names.

It's written well in most areas, but you can clearly tell when Berlanti has his hand in it.
 
It's written by three guys. Berlanti and two other dudes whom I forgot there names.

It's written well in most areas, but you can clearly tell when Berlanti has his hand in it.
The other writers are Guggenheim and Green.
 
Yep those are the guys. Green writes Kings didn't he?
 
Yup. I just finished the script. I rather enjoyed it. Could use a lot of cleaning up, which I'm sure is being handled, but all in all it was a good action film, and they nailed Hal as a character in my opinion.
 
No one can disagree in one thing: The action sequences are incredible. :woot:
 
Yup. I just finished the script. I rather enjoyed it. Could use a lot of cleaning up, which I'm sure is being handled, but all in all it was a good action film, and they nailed Hal as a character in my opinion.

So would you say this fits Pine or Worthington more?
 
I hate the references to X-Box and someone playing Halo 3 on 'legendary'.

Someone made a good point--some of the script really reads Transformers-esque in how juvenile it could be.

It really feels like an incredibly abridged version of GL. Of course, it could be a lot worse, but I'm concerned how the scenes jump so crazily from one situation to the next in a non-sensical manner.
 
Tom should be more like Alferd from BATMAN BEGINS...
Serious character with a very British (read non-slapstick) sense humor and wit
 
Damn my inability to avoid clicking on spoilers!

I'm hoping this ends up being Iron Man-esque after they get done shaping the script.
 
Damn my inability to avoid clicking on "reply" over and over. ;)
 
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Can't stand all the "woah, dude, that did NOT just happen" type dialogue.

And how ****** they wrote Carol. She's given a very similar arc to MJ and Pepper Potts.
 
Imagine the hilarity when WW comes out...

Wonder Woman: HELP!!! SAVE ME STEVE!!!
Steve: WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SAYING? YOUR'RE THE HERO!! NOT ME!
 
What do you think of Hammond's whiney "daddy doesn't respect me" storyline?
 
they should of just adapted john's secret origins storyline minus the sector 666 stuff
 
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