X-Men The Official MCU X-Men News and Discussion Thread

[Shinobi Shaw]

Nope.

 

[SumT]

If the rumor is true about Feige/Igor clashing over the first X-Men movie being a event film, I think the best route is to go with the Ultimate X-Men vol 1 The Tomorrow People.

• Introduce the important human characters that will have a multi film storyline, Trask, Gyrich, Sen. Kelly, the President.
• In a small cameo have Reed, give a small lecture on mutation (to show how the new MCU is all connected).
• The movie can open up with MRD attacking/capturing mutants, from there we get a brief news montage about fear of the mutant menace (think XMEvo s3 premier).
• Next we are introduce to the X-Men having a danger room training session led by Xavier overlooking (in this scene we get a small glimpse of their powers and teamwork skills).
• Their training session is interrupted by Moira or Beast with news of the MRD raids, this leads Xavier/Scott going to DC to hear about a supposed Mutant Registration Act.
• Iceman/Jubilee/Kitty/Magma can be the new POV character
• The team is dispatched to recruit the teen mutant they also encounter the Brotherhood (looking to recruit as well) and enter a proto type Sentinel!
• Xavier thinks Magneto is behind the Brotherhood and he briefly touches on their friendship and how dreamed of a "brotherhood" for mutant kind.
• The team discovers a secret MRD base (think Night of the sentinels from XTAS) and find plans about the sentinels
• meanwhile Magneto dispatches the brotherhood to attack landmarks and MRD camps. Magneto makes his grand debut on everyone's TV threatening war on America if they do not cease their mutant manhunt.
• this angers Sen Kelly who convinces the president to give the okay for Trask/Gyrich to mass produce sentinels.
• however an insider tips Mags on the what Sen Kelly just did, he then dispatches the BOM to kidnap the senator's children.
• the BOM launch an attack on a US landmark, the X-Men go to help/rescue while the BOM kidnaps Sen Kelly's twins.
• the MRD in contact with the oval office are able to locate Magneto's base.
• while in captivity one of the Kelly's twins secretly displays her latent telekinetic powers. Mags is shocked but will use his daughter as an example.
• Cerebro detects her using her powers and he sends the X-Men to Mags base/island.
• The sentinels attack Mags base. Some of the brotherhood are injured or killed. Mags takes the opportunity to reprogram the sentinels and heads to DC w/the twins
• the X jet are caught in the fleet of sentinels, it crash lands, Cyclops pleads with Blink to teleport them to DC to stop Magneto.
• Mags and the sentinels lay waste to DC, the MRD and the army.
• the X-Men show up destroys the sentinels. Mags has Sen Kelly in his sight and before he kills him, he reveals that the daughter is a mutant and now they both will suffer the same fate.
• Xavier shows up, the X-Men managed to get Mags helmet off, Xavier telepathically tries to get Mags to stop his assault but Mags is imploded with all of the sentinels.
• Cyclops question what Xavier did by "killing" Magneto.
• Sen Kelly's twin reveals to him she is a mutant, which forces him to changes his views now that his child will face the same discrimination.
• the movie ends with the public views on mutants undecisive. Sam makes a cameo saying how the X-men should be considered heroes and to give them a chance, however the Avengers will keep an eye on them and other mutant threats.
• the movie ends with a Xavier montage (opposite of the fox movies)
• Mystique is revealed to be impersonating as the vice president who tipped Magneto off.
• in a post credit scene Sinister is revealed to be watching Scott and Jean in the battle with a sly smile on his face.

ok so that was a lot. I took some of the story bits from The Tomorrow People. I omitted the scenes where Jean recruited Storm, and Colossus instead we get are main introduction to the team in the Danger Room. Some personal developments will be Storm/Colossus adjusting to life in the US, the team figuring out their dynamic, Scott debating if he can lead the team, Jean discovering how truly powerful she can be, this version of Xavier is more secretive, maybe his morals should be questioned.

The real villains in this first film are the humans with Magneto and the Brotherhood as secondary villains. Mags doesn't have a huge role, he's mostly in the background while the Brotherhood does most of the work. Mystique will be back in a later movie. NO WOLVERINE (maybe in the sequel).

That was a cool read.

Tho X-Men vs Magneto, Brotherhood and Senator Kelly more or less sounds like Fox's X-Men 1 but with a higher budget (sentinels and co). I doubt Marvel Studios would go a similar route with Senator Kelly/Magneto again.

btw, what would be your complete X-Men roster in that movie? Im curious

 

[psylockolussus]

No Wolverine in the first movie, would be great!

 

[Phoenix_Flare]

That was a cool read.

Tho X-Men vs Magneto, Brotherhood and Senator Kelly more or less sounds like Fox's X-Men 1 but with a higher budget (sentinels and co). I doubt Marvel Studios would go a similar route with Senator Kelly/Magneto again.

btw, what would be your complete X-Men roster in that movie? Im curious

Thanks, yeah you're right about the comparison to X1. I was debating whether to give the president or Sen. Kelly more of an arc. I was thinking Kelly could go from anti to pro mutant just like the cartoon. In the comic it was the president's child that was kidnap and Magneto was going to kill him. Either way it still makes for a good confrontation between Mags and a human antagonist.

M roster would be: Cyclops, Jean, Beast (pre fur, big guy with hands and feet), Colossus, Storm, Sunfire (the hot head of the team). As I stated Iceman, Jubilee, or Kitty can be the teen recruit. I think I would have Sunfire leave the team at the end of the movie. The events of Washington would sway his mind on being part of team and he thinks Magneto may be right.

In my sequel, I would introduce Sinister, Gambit, Rogue, etc and how Sinister has had his hands in Weapon X program. Experimenting on mutants and taking them for his own purposes.

 

[psylockolussus]

I would definitely prefer to see other villains than Senator Kelly, Mystique and Magneto in the first movie.

Sunfire in the team, would be a choice... that I would be interested to see.

 

[SumT]

Im probably in the minority, but Id love to have Storm, Jubilee, Sunfire and Thunderbird on the first film, along with the core X-Men (Cyclops, Jean, Beast, Rogue and co).

It would feel a very fresh take on the X-Men, compared to Fox era, since none from the general audience knows Sunfire and Thunderbird yet (even if he was in The gifted), but Id love to see a big screen adaptation and seein him next to the popular X-Men.
Forge is another character Id like to see on the X-Men movies, but for the first film, Id preffer Thunderbird (as the substitute of Colossus in terms of powers) and to add a different layer with his background (another reason I was excited to have Mirage in New Mutants). I really love the multicultural take of the X-Men on the Second Genesis comic, so this would be such a refreshing approach by Marvel Studios. And yeah, it would avoid racebending and all the controversy.
Id really love to see Sunfire and Thunderbird on the main films as active team members, to see new team dinamics, aside from Cyclops-Jean-Wolverine that has been done to death.

 

[psylockolussus]

I would switch Bishop over Thunderbird. I just don't find Thunderbird interesting. Even in the Gifted show, Polaris outshone him everytime.

 

[Frodo]

On the whole Iger and Feige issue, I think a film on the level of the first two X Men films , would be fine in terms of the balance between story, issues, and spectacle.

While they didn't involve Infinity War level threats , they were consequential events, as opposed to Spiderman Homecoming, which really only effected Peter's life and his immediate social, and family life, or a film like the first Antman .

In terms of the team , I think the it should be made up of mostly familiar X Men members , as opposed to a bunch of lesser known characters that only comic fans know of .

I think you've got to at least have Cyclops, Jean, and Storm, while I think Feige will have Beast is apart of the team regardless, even if he's not a must , for this film .

Aside from those 4 , I think they can switch it up with members who weren't fully exploited in the Fox era , or characters who haven't been adapted yet.

Magento doesn't have to be the villain of the first film, and if anything, I'd prefer Mr. Sinister as the baddie .

 

[psylockolussus]

I think Disney might be thinking X-Men is the last Marvel Ip they haven't done a big movie yet, so I expect them to be doing a lot of huge set pieces that would differentiate the reboot to the FoX-Men movies. And those comic booky group shots - there so many from the comics they could look at for reference.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

With the rumors of Feige and Iger being in conflict over X-Men, the MCU falling off, I wonder how much longer Feige is going to be running Marvel.

 

[psylockolussus]

On the whole Iger and Feige issue, I think a film on the level of the first two X Men films , would be fine in terms of the balance between story, issues, and spectacle.

While they didn't involve Infinity War level threats , they were consequential events, as opposed to Spiderman Homecoming, which really only effected Peter's life and his immediate social, and family life, or a film like the first Antman .

In terms of the team , I think the it should be made up of mostly familiar X Men members , as opposed to a bunch of lesser known characters that only comic fans know of .

I think you've got to at least have Cyclops, Jean, and Storm, while I think Feige will have Beast is apart of the team regardless, even if he's not a must , for this film .

Aside from those 4 , I think they can switch it up with members who weren't fully exploited in the Fox era , or characters who haven't been adapted yet.

Magento doesn't have to be the villain of the first film, and if anything, I'd prefer Mr. Sinister as the baddie .

I think it should be a mixture of "main X-Men" and secondary characters that we haven't seen in the films or underdeveloped in the Fox era.

However, we aren't going to get that. Its going to be 90% X-Men 97 roster with 1 or 2 faces that aren't regular in the cartoons. I'd be surprised if we get Sunfire, Psylocke, Angel, Havok, Polaris, Dazzler, Banshee, Thunderbird, Emma and Forge.

-Jubilee is probably in.
-I can't see them not having Rogue who haven't had an actual role in the movies since 2006 and she wasn't even in the final battle.
-Wolverine is probably out since Hugh was just in Deadpool & Wolverine and Hugh would just be distraction to the new cast.
-Cyclops, Jean, Storm and Beast are such obvious safe choices. The only one that is possible not to be included is Beast, since he appeared in the last 4 FoX-Men movies and the 2nd X-Men to appear in the Mcu.
-Nightcrawler and Bishop wouldn't be surprising since they were added to X-Men 97 roster.
-Gambit, maybe not, if Channing Tatum is still fresh on people's mind.
-Iceman, Kitty or Colossus I can see them being included to differentiate from X-Men 97's roster. Iceman is like a given to me.

 

[psylockolussus]

With the rumors of Feige and Iger being in conflict over X-Men, the MCU falling off, I wonder how much longer Feige is going to be running Marvel.

Not if this happens, next year.

Bob Iger Says He Will ‘Definitely Step Down’ After Contract Expires In 2026

Bob Iger recently extended his contract after initially stating he only planned to stay for two years.

www.forbes.com

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Not if this happens, next year.

Bob Iger Says He Will ‘Definitely Step Down’ After Contract Expires In 2026

Bob Iger recently extended his contract after initially stating he only planned to stay for two years.

www.forbes.com

Last time Iger left, we got Bob Chapek and that was an absolute disaster for Marvel. Depends on who the successor is going to be (which won't be Feige), I can see Feige getting fed up and quitting. But point being, with the MCU losing its popularity, Feige is going to start to lose a lot of the autonomy he used to enjoy, and Disney will be stepping in more and more and taking control. That is going to impact what types of Marvel movies we get, the types of shows we get, what types of projects get greenlit, etc.

 

[psylockolussus]

Last time Iger left, we got Bob Chapek and that was an absolute disaster for Marvel. Depends on who the successor is going to be (which won't be Feige), I can see Feige getting fed up and quitting. But point being, with the MCU losing its popularity, Feige is going to start to lose a lot of the autonomy he used to enjoy, and Disney will be stepping in more and more and taking control. That is going to impact what types of Marvel movies we get, the types of shows we get, what types of projects get greenlit, etc.

Honestly I doubt it.

Worst case scenario, they only release 1 Marvel movie every year. I can't see him quitting until he produced several X-Men movies.

 

[AndrewGilkison]

Honestly I doubt it.

Worst case scenario, they only release 1 Marvel movie every year. I can't see him quitting until he produced several X-Men movies.

Keep in mind that Feige almost walked away from Marvel during the Pearlmutter/creative committee era over conflicts with Captain America: Civil War and phase 3. Ironically enough it was Bob Iger who came to the rescue by splitting Marvel movies and Marvel Entertainment apart and having Feige report directly to movie head Alan Horn, who left him largely to his own devices because of the popularity of the MCU. But that seems to be changing.

 

[psylockolussus]

Keep in mind that Feige almost walked away from Marvel during the Pearlmutter/creative committee era over conflicts with Captain America: Civil War and phase 3. Ironically enough it was Bob Iger who came to the rescue by splitting Marvel movies and Marvel Entertainment apart and having Feige report directly to movie head Alan Horn, who left him largely to his own devices because of the popularity of the MCU. But that seems to be changing.

Almost, but how many big Marvel movies have we gotten since then? Eternals, Quantumania, Brave New World and those countless Disney+ shows also happened. Did we read any new rumors about Kevin quitting?

He's gonna stay til he's 90.

 

[BobJM]

I would definitely prefer to see other villains than Senator Kelly, Mystique and Magneto in the first movie.

Sunfire in the team, would be a choice... that I would be interested to see.

Just to play devil’s advocate, it’s been 25 years since we’ve had Senator Kelly proper onscreen. So I agree with your about Magneto and Mystique, but I would actually like to see Kelly again. Something closer to his comics/TAS story.

If the Brotherhood are villains in this first movie, it’d be cool to see them led by Quicksilver or Avalanche (if they are inspired by Evolution) and just tease a future Magneto appearance.

 

[psylockolussus]

Just to play devil’s advocate, it’s been 25 years since we’ve had Senator Kelly proper onscreen. So I agree with your about Magneto and Mystique, but I would actually like to see Kelly again. Something closer to his comics/TAS story.

If the Brotherhood are villains in this first movie, it’d be cool to see them led by Quicksilver or Avalanche (if they are inspired by Evolution) and just tease a future Magneto appearance.

The thing is when the movie is released. The first X-Men movie people would be comparing it to is X-Men 1 (well those who still remember about it). Which isn't really a hard movie to top but still. There are so many other characters they could use.

Avalanche would be new. Quicksilver, would be the third live action version (2nd in the Mcu). I think they are better off featuring other different villain groups/non mutant villains.

 

[BobJM]

The thing is when the movie is released. The first X-Men movie people would be comparing it to is X-Men 1 (well those who still remember about it). Which isn't really a hard movie to top but still. There are so many other characters they could use.

Avalanche would be new. Quicksilver, would be the third live action version (2nd in the Mcu). I think they are better off featuring other different villain groups/non mutant villains.

That’s fair, but there’s going to be opinion pieces comparing the two regardless. It’s the internet; what else do we have to talk about? Including Sentinels straight out the gate would be enough to differentiate the two—for me anyway.

But we can avoid Quicksilver; you’re probably right there. Honestly, I prefer him to Wanda when it comes to Magneto’s kids, but it’s pretty messy at this point in the MCU. I wonder if they avoid the twins altogether and introduce Lorna instead?

All this to say, I’ve always liked the idea of doing Karl Lykos in the first movie. Instead of MRD or Friends of Humanity nabbing mutants off the streets, it’s some organization funded by Lykos. But the mutants are secretly being transported to Lykos’ base in the Savage Land where their mutant powers are being harvested for Lykos & his mutates—humans who feel left behind by evolution, taking matters into their own hands & literally stealing mutant DNA.

 

[psylockolussus]

That’s fair, but there’s going to be opinion pieces comparing the two regardless. It’s the internet; what else do we have to talk about? Including Sentinels straight out the gate would be enough to differentiate the two—for me anyway.

But we can avoid Quicksilver; you’re probably right there. Honestly, I prefer him to Wanda when it comes to Magneto’s kids, but it’s pretty messy at this point in the MCU. I wonder if they avoid the twins altogether and introduce Lorna instead?

All this to say, I’ve always liked the idea of doing Karl Lykos in the first movie. Instead of MRD or Friends of Humanity nabbing mutants off the streets, it’s some organization funded by Lykos. But the mutants are secretly being transported to Lykos’ base in the Savage Land where their mutant powers are being harvested for Lykos & his mutates—humans who feel left behind by evolution, taking matters into their own hands & literally stealing mutant DNA.

I just think given how large the X-Men mythos is, they would at least branch out to the villains that haven't been adapted yet.

The X-Men team roster is going to be predictable because of X-Men 97, so they have an opportunity with the villains to try someone different especially not using the villains we saw in X-Men 2000. Even Stryker (as a reverend) would still be been there, done that.

 

[Sithborg]

Disney CEO Told Hosts of ‘The View’ to Tone Down Trump-Bashing

Multiple sources shared details with the Daily Beast about a meeting in which the ABC News president delivered a message that left the co-hosts unnerved.

www.thedailybeast.com

****ing cooked. Iger is going to try to force appeasement on everyone.

 

[psylockolussus]

So the 2 Avengers movies have been delayed by 7 seven months, we are definitely not to going to see the X-Men reboot in 2027.

 

[JP]

Yes, we will.

 

[psylockolussus]

That’s fair, but there’s going to be opinion pieces comparing the two regardless. It’s the internet; what else do we have to talk about? Including Sentinels straight out the gate would be enough to differentiate the two—for me anyway.

But we can avoid Quicksilver; you’re probably right there. Honestly, I prefer him to Wanda when it comes to Magneto’s kids, but it’s pretty messy at this point in the MCU. I wonder if they avoid the twins altogether and introduce Lorna instead?

All this to say, I’ve always liked the idea of doing Karl Lykos in the first movie. Instead of MRD or Friends of Humanity nabbing mutants off the streets, it’s some organization funded by Lykos. But the mutants are secretly being transported to Lykos’ base in the Savage Land where their mutant powers are being harvested for Lykos & his mutates—humans who feel left behind by evolution, taking matters into their own hands & literally stealing mutant DNA.

I forgot to comment about Polaris.

I think giving Polaris the Magneto's daughter role would give her some boost of interest especially to those who aren't very aware of her. I personally would prefer if she just stands out as Lorna Dane and not as an offspring to a big villain. But she's really way overdue for a film appearance, so if they want to make her as Magneto's daughter, the Wolverine's X-23 to Magneto. So be it.

Scarlet/Quicksilver probably shouldn't be related to Magneto. I feel like doing that in the movies this late, especially the Mcu is going to appear convoluted. It doesn't make sense at this point.

 

[Phoenix_Flare]

I would definitely prefer to see other villains than Senator Kelly, Mystique and Magneto in the first movie.

Sunfire in the team, would be a choice... that I would be interested to see.

I feel where you're coming from, however they should serve as a starting point for a major storyline down the road. I would like to see Senator Kelly go on journey from being so anti-mutant, running for president (his actions would mimic certain presidents in history) causing so much fear and division, wanting the mutant registration act, concentration camps, forcing mutants to go underground. Then becoming pro mutant after realizing the era of his ways.

Mystique isa anyway the wind blows kind type of character. She starts off with Magneto, then align herself with the likes of Sinister and Apocalypse. She would be infiltrating government agencies, FOH you'll never know when or where she turn up. Eventually she would the perfect character for a spin off Disney+ show telling some of her origin with Azazel and Destiny.

Magneto's role would be similar to s1 of X-Men Evolution. He's in the movie, but not a huge role, he's this intimidating, powerful figure. After his defeat in the first movie he will take a backseat until the 3rd or 4th film.

I chose Sunfire because it will be cool to see his powers and we need more Asian representation.