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The Official "Watchmen" Fan Rate & Review Thread - Part 1

IMO, an excellent piece of film making as a comic book artform, panel for shot transfer from source material, a great job by all concerned. As an adaption in illustrating the themes and depths of the graphic novel it loses some edge but almost impossible to do so frankly without making it 5 hrs long. Great work by Snyder.
 
Great thread, there's lots to be said about this film.


As a long-time fan of Watchmen (as in I read it when it first came out), I didn't have high hopes for a screen adaptation.
To be honest I thought the best way to do it would have been with
12 1-2 hour episodes as a TV series -which they could have integrated the black frieighter series as well, and some of the back-stories.

Having said that I think that Snyder's version was the best possible adaptation we were going to get.


It kept all the important stuff, got at least the look of the characters right, a standout performance from Jackie Earle Hayley, and streamlined the ending.

Great action pieces, right from the Comedian's murder, which I thought a particularly good adaptation from the comic. After that the opening sequence
really sets the scene. Say what you like about Snyder but he certainly can create an entire world within a short space of screen time.


I like Malin Akerman, but she was pretty boring as Silk Spectre (Carla Gugino was better in her brief role).

Jeffrey Dean Morgan was an appropriately sociopathic and detestable comedian.

Billy Crudup I thought the biggest letdown as Dr. Manhattan, who should have been one of the most intriguing characters, but turned out to be the most boring (they should have spent more time on his characterization, and less on his penis).

Matthew Goode was reasonably ubermensch as Veidt, and Patrick Wilson reasonably pathetic as Nite Owl (who's a reasonably pathetic character, so that's okay).

However, the stand-out has to be Jackie Earle Hayley, who really carried the film.


In fact, one thing that I really appreciated was the effort Snyder put into bringing Gibbons' panels to life. So many establishing shots were straight out of the comic.

Personally, I prefer Tse's ending, as it makes a bit more sense than Moore's.
But the genius behind the characters, that's Moore's alone. Snyder and Tse just had to translate it onto the screen.


All in all I give Watchmen a 7.5- 8 /10. I think it was the best it could have been - particularly as Moore himself doubted it could ever work on the big screen.

Most of all, I'm particularly glad that Snyder left some of his usual tricks (that appeared in Watchmen) behind for Man of Steel.
 
Billy Crudup I thought the biggest letdown as Dr. Manhattan, who should have been one of the most intriguing characters, but turned out to be the most boring (they should have spent more time on his characterization, and less on his penis).

I'm not sure I understand. If anything, Dr. Manhattan had more focus on characterization than the other characters.
 
I'm not sure I understand. If anything, Dr. Manhattan had more focus on characterization than the other characters.

Okay, Dr Manhattan is God, not just a god but God (well the next God anyway).
First of all, God needs a slightly less simpering voice. That voice really annoyed me. Even if Osterman had a different voice, and Dr M took on a more impressive tone, that would have worked, for me anyway.

Also, why did he need the enormous physique, in the comics the Dr is lean and muscular but not Mr Atlas ?

Second, Dr M's problem isn't that he's too indecisive or weak to take action, it's that he's just stopped giving a **** about humans. That's something that Crudup did not communicate convincingly.

Third, just because we see his origin played out doesn't necessarily mean we get inside the character and really see his motivations. Sure Crudup read pretty much from the graphic novel, but somehow between Moore's writing and Gibbons' illustrations, we get a real sense of what the Doc is thinking.

Somehow Gibbons communicated that better through Dr M's expressions.

Especially at the end when he gives Veidt that look as he tells him that
humanity is still doomed.

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Or even better, that look he gives Dan and Laurie when he finds them together
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that look tells you everything, and that was missing in the film.

IMO, you feel like you know more about Rorschach at the end of the film, having seen less of his childhood (other than in the opening credits or the scenes where he's being psychoanalyzed) or even Nite Owl.

To me Dr. M should have had a lot of presence, and simply didn't. Sure they took the time to explain how he came into being, but didn't make him that interesting once he had.


Just IMO. Otherwise, I really enjoyed the rest of the film.
 
Well, the poll has closed, otherwise i would have voted 10/10. Easily one of my favourite movies, along with The Crow and Blade Runner, i watch those three movies regulary. I only got the Directors Cut btw, since the Ultimate Cut isnt available in Europe? Whats up with that?
 
I once gave this a 7/10. Rewatched it and giving it a 9.

Who Watches the Naught Films? - A Review of “Watchmen: The Director’s Cut”

First regarded as one of the most important graphic novels ever written, later the film provided a representation that polarised its viewers. The price of peace, the nature of man, relativity of time and the fruits of evil… these are all themes discussed in “Watchmen”.

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I can still remember the first time I read “Watchmen” – it was a graphic novel like non-other I had seen. The questions posed, the themes explored… when it’s all over, you’re sitting there with a blank look on your face, trying to figure out how you would have reacted to every conflict that was presented.

When the first trailer hit, we were given a taste of the art direction, and shown how practically every shot in the film was replicated from the novel. Zack Snyder actually used the source material as his storyboards, only making minor changes, and then the occasional drastic change (mentioned below).

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Alan Moore’s story (paired with Syder’s alternate ending) presented a fantastic narrative. I can’t even begin to list off the moments of moral ambiguity, action and drama that keep you on the edge of your seat, or even just the plain old badassery. When the film ends, you’ll instantly be in internal dialogue with yourself on whether or not you’d agree with Rorschach or Ozymandias. You’ll contemplate what it means to see the world through the eyes of Dr. Manhattan. The film’s portrayal of someone who transcends time and space is done masterfully. As I mentioned in my review of “Lucy”, for the most part, our understanding of his abilities is portrayed from the perspective of other characters, and he still has links to humanity that are explored in the “Birth of Dr. Manhattan” sequence. The last wink at the audience with the journal is also a fantastic talking point. Was it all for nothing?

The overall “look” of the film is very gratifying for the most part. It’s beautiful, grim and filled with contrasting colours. Every shot in this film is composed with so much focus that it’s hard to not be drawn in. It isn’t until we get moments of horrible CGI that we flinch a little. Snyder’s over-reliance on computer-generated images tends to act as a crutch on his film. In cases where miniatures, practical effect and composites of real footage could have easily been used, you scratch your head when the camera pans from a real shot, to an obviously CG rooftop, to another real shot. Don’t get me wrong, it looked great in the majority of the scenes, but the times that it stood out, it really stood out.

Hand-in-hand with the above, the slow-motion shots were a bit much at times. In my opinion, slow-motion has be used for purpose (ie the first “Matrix” and “Inception”), but once it’s just for visual candy, it becomes a little exhausting and coupled with the crutching CG, it can really take you out of the scene (as it did for me in the opening sequence). But again, there were times where it was merited and for that I still give Snyder credit.

The changes from the book are apparent for the most part. To me, there are two that stand out most – the first is how Rorschach deals with the murderer of the little girl. In the book, he handcuffs the killer to the furnace, hands him a saw and sets the house on fire. The filmmakers changed this due to possible association to the movie saw. Personally, I would’ve gone “the hell with that” and left it, but we don’t know what powers were at play behind the scenes resulting in this change. The second is the big cataclysmic event at the end of the film. Without spoiling it too much, I enjoyed it a lot more than the one from the book. The original ending seemed to come out of nowhere and felt as though Alan Moore was sitting at his keyboard drunk and went “yeah, that’ll do” before passing out on his bed. Although I prefer Snyder’s ending, the fact that he left Bubastis in the film is confusing. Why would Ozymandias waste his time genetically engineering creatures if not for the original ending? It’s just out of place and feels random without context and (again) the CGI looked awful.

The music selection for this film was fantastic in the way in fit the story with the exception of a couple of songs. At times it made the film feel like a parody (of Apocalypse Now with the Vietnam sequence) or a scene from Smallville (Comedian’ funeral) and although the scenes on their own are great, they stand out like a soar thumb in context of the rest of the film. One of them that stood out most was the awkward pairing of picture to sound during the sex scene – really irked me. Aside from those select pieces, great selection. This category is one that people still find themselves quarrelling over when it comes to this film.

At the end of the day, I loved this film and I’ll give it a solid 9/10.

For a full list of changes between the Director’s Cut and the Theatrical Cut click here.

Source: http://thespeakingmute.tumblr.com/post/104533455503/who-watches-the-naught-films-a-review-of
 
I had originally gave it an 8/10, but upgraded it to a 10/10. Still the best CBM to date IMO.
 
Have yet to see it, just so see how Rorschach might be an analogy of Batman in a way, aside from Nite Owl.
No, not the kind of Rorschach below, but it's quite fun.
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It's a CBM masterpiece.

One if the three or four best of the genre.
 
Haven't seen it in a while but I remember liking it quite a bit in theaters. It's $10 at my local Hastings so I plan on buying and watching it once I'm done with exams.
I remember seeing it with a group of friends, none of whom had read the book, and a majority of them didn't like the movie. Do you think this is one of the movies where you'd have to read the book to appreciate it, or can it be enjoyed without the added benefit of knowing the story? Obviously the film largely works on it's own as it got a good reception but I'd like to hear some of you all's thoughts on this.
 
I still love this movie to bits, try and watch it every now and again still but due the length I find those viewings getting less as I just dont have the time on my hands mostly. Will make time to watch it again soon though. So under-rated as a CBM.
 
Haven't seen it in a while but I remember liking it quite a bit in theaters. It's $10 at my local Hastings so I plan on buying and watching it once I'm done with exams.
I remember seeing it with a group of friends, none of whom had read the book, and a majority of them didn't like the movie. Do you think this is one of the movies where you'd have to read the book to appreciate it, or can it be enjoyed without the added benefit of knowing the story? Obviously the film largely works on it's own as it got a good reception but I'd like to hear some of you all's thoughts on this.

It got a tepid reception didn't it?

I don't think one needs to read the book, most people did not, and of those who did most barely remembered the book anyway.

FWIW, Snyder says this is his favourite of his own movies.
 
It got a tepid reception didn't it?

I don't think one needs to read the book, most people did not, and of those who did most barely remembered the book anyway.

FWIW, Snyder says this is his favourite of his own movies.

It's reception was pretty lukewarm, but I have nothing but good memories attached to it. It's a shame I forgot about it, I read the book once every year or so and still enjoy finding new things in it.
 
7/10. Rhorscach and the soundtrack are the best things about it for me.
 
So the model/actor Greg Plitt who was the body for Dr Manhattan got hit by a train and died.:csad:
 
This is a movie that gets better every time you watch it. It's an amazing adaptation of a really dense an great comic book.
 
Saw the director's cut again after many years and I love it just as much as before. It's a really great movie with some truly breathtaking moments. Dr. Manhattans' origin sequence is still mesmerizing.
 
I love watching Watchmen. It's undoubtedly one of my favorite movies.
 
This film is a masterpiece through and through.

An absolute shame to hear about Greg Plitt. RIP.
 
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