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The legality of it is no longer in question as it deals with a script that is no longer considered part of the final cut of this film, so I severely doubt it's illegal now that real vivid imagery is available just by going down to the theater. I have all 3 leaks merged, but just in case they're "spoilerish" I tagged them:
The Wall/Building is used towards the beginning of the movie where harry in full GG Glory first attacks peter, and tosses him into the side of the building. This also where they have a huge airal fight sequence leading to a chase into an alley where (yes as a previous plot spoiler had reported) Harry is knocked out and Peter saves him and brings him to a hospital.
The church sequence is used when Black Symbiote Spidey attempts to tear his suit off by the ringing of the church bell. Unknown to him that right under him in the church Brock is walking in where peices of the symbiote land on him and then bond with him.
I've seen the costume of Venom (yes hes in it, but only towards the end) and its extemely cool. Think all black latex with veins all over his upper half, reaching over onto his arms. However the veins also shape into the Spider thats on his chest in the comics (no white).
Trust me, the movie is shaping up well and is in good hands. But be prepared for A LOT of fight sequences including a revisit to the subway fight sequence (only underground this time).
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Q. ^What does it look like,any white spider emblems on the chest/back?
A. No wite. Black version of the current costume with the webbing on top
Q. Who are all the villains in this movie,and how much screen time does each one have?
A. Ven,San,GG2. Sandman is the main, building up to venom at end. GG has a good amount, though not sure how much time. Hes in 2 major battles.
Q. If Harry is the goblin,which one is he in the movie,GG2 or Hobgoblin?
A.Hes GG
Q. ^What does the goblin suit look like?
A. Nothing like the first movie. Picture a black version of a ski/snow boarder suit with belts across leg and razor blades on teh right arm. The mask is googles and a mouth mask in green. Nothing Goblin like.
Q. Does spidey fight two villains at once at any time?
A. Yes he fights two at one time.
Q. Does Venom have teeth,tongue?
A. Yes venom has nasty teeth, no where near exaggerated in the comics. Just really sharp yellow teeth, very fang like, it will be prosthetics. Tounge wil be CG.
Q. How big does Venom appear to be compared to spidey?
A. Venom will be the same size at Spidey. Basically the bad version of spidey.
Q. Is Topher Brock?
A. Topher is brock.
Q. Who dies in this movie?
A. Still undetermined. Though Harry will bite it.
Q. Does John Jameson confront Peter or MJ in the movie?
A. no idea.
Q. What kind of things does Sandman do in this movie power wise?
A. Grows a lot. Sandstorms. Hand as a sledgehammer. The FX will raise the bar.
Q. How much screen time does Dr.Connors have,does he mention anything about lizard experiments?
A. No clue on screen time, but connors studies teh symbiote sample. So we see the inside of his lab. Lizards references....maybe....
Q. Does the GG look cool,how much green does he have on him,is his black snow suit have a black hood that covers the top of his head,do the belts on his legs hold pumpkin bombs,is his goggles yellow lens,does he wear gloves of any kind,and why does Harry go with this suit instead of the one his father used?
A. He looks cool as an individual idea. But again, nothing remotely goblin like about him except the weapons, glider and some green on him. No hood, the belts hold two swords. One long one on his back, a smaller one on his right leg. Pumpkins bombs are in his glider. Goggles are black. Gloves are black. No idea why. Possible to make it more to his liking, a way to "improve".
Q. Does Venom fight in this movie or does he just show up as a cliffhanger?
A. Yes he fights. Again, he will fight Spidey with Sandman at the end, the movie leads up to this "battle royale" at the construction site. GG will also join in the fight, but not on the sides of Ven/San
Q. Does Venom's veins have a purple color to it?
A. Not that I know of.
Q. I'm kinda confused,does spidey wear the symbiote before Brock gets it?
A. Yes. After his date with MJ, the symbiote clings to his shoe and waits for Parker in his room one night. He then wakes up upside down on the side of a building wearing the symbiote costume.
Q.If spidey does wear the symbiote,what does it look like exactly?
A. The same costume as blue/red only black with all the scale detail and webbing over it. Not impressive.
Q. And how long does he wear the suit?
A. Not sure since the movies hasnt been peices together. But right now a good chunk since the movie is about Peter and how the symbiote possesses him, and the decisions he has to make.
Q. Who does he fight with it?
A. Sandman, robbers, and Harry
Q. What makes him take it off?
A. Bell Tower.
Q.Does the Sandman ever turn his hands into a mace?
A. No idea. Sledgehammer is all i know.
Q.Where do all the fights take place on/at?
A. All over. In the air/Alley, underground subway, armoured truck in the streets, construction site.
Q.Is there a cliffhanger at the end of this movie?
A. Not currently. But there is one scene that leaves questions opened about the return of the symbiote.
Q.Who does Bruce Campbell play?
A. Dont know.
Q.Where does the symbiote come from?
A. An astroid.
Q.Does spidey wear his regular red and blue spidey suit in the movie?
A. Yes.
Q.Is S-M3 and S-M4 being made back to back?
A. Nope. We wish we had the budget for that.
Q.Is Venom going to be the villain for S-M4,or is S-M3 going to be it for him?
A. End of the line for Brocks version of Venom, but not the symbiote itself.
Q.Is there lots of fights/action in this movie?
A. TONS. 4 BIG fight sequences. All very fun, and clever. Wont be disappointed in that department.
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About 13 pages into the script you already get introduced to the Sandman, the alien symbiote and Green Goblin 2. The Alien symbiote comes from a meteor and it happens to touch and follow peter home without his knowledge. So it just sits in his apartment waiting....
Anyhow. we get an early fight with GG2 and Spidey that has Spidey on the recieving end of an ass kicking only to get turned around as GG2 gets pushed into a narrow alley and runs head first into a spider web clothes line hanging and almost killing Harry. Peter saves him and Harry doesn't remember much. So chalk up another mind wipe in the comic world. Flint gets turned into Sandman as he is being chased into a molecular test site and bam... becomes sandman.
MJ's career isn't doing so hot and she is a bit jealous of all the fame that Spiderman is getting. At the same time Peter is trying to find a way to propse to MJ. Gwen Stacy steps in as Peter Parker's tuter student since they both have Doctor Connors class together. She is also played up as a **** in the script and has dated Brock in the past but was nothing serious. She also introduces Spiderman during a "Spiderman Day" event and pulls an upside down kiss. This whole thing doesn't last long as Sandman is highjacking an armored truck. Spiderman kicks in and attempts to save the day. Think of this fight like the sandstorm in Mummy 2. The fight ends with Sandman getting away but not before Brock gets a snap shot of a "defeated" spiderman. When Peter finally figures out how to propse to MJ he takes her to this coffee joint and Gwen comes in only to ask Peter if he has that picture where she is kissing spiderman upside down. This does not please MJ at all.
Oh, side note... Brock, who from the script was hired only a week before (error already) and Peter are fighting for one of the staff positions on the bugle. Both are taking photos of spiderman only Brock's don't paint him in a pretty light. At the same time Aunt May and Peter are taken to the police station for some shocking news. Seems that Uncle ben's killer from the first film wasn't actually his killer. Just some guy that helped. The real killer is... You guessed it.. Sandman. So now Peter gets it personal with Sandman. He's pretty much hunting him down with no luck. Sittting by police scanners just incase. Even pushes MJ away when she tries to comfort him. He falls asleep curled up with the police scanner and this is the perfect time for the alien symbiote to make its move.. He wakes up the next morning high above the city in his black costume With the power that the alien costume gives him he easily tracks down Sandman and a massive battle goes on eventually leading to Sandman getting a load of water hit on him.
Spiderman goes back to the apartment where he meets the russian dude who bugs him for rent.. only this time Peter aint taking no ****. He tells off the guy and you see a hint of the aliens true form with the teeth and what not before he takes it off. MJ gets a new job and goes to Harry first since Peter is pushing her away. At this point Harry starts to remember everything. MJ and Harry kiss and she bolts out the door after realizing what she just did. When she gets back to her apartment there is someone waiting for her.. Green Goblin 2. He makes her make Peter meet them some place so he could force her to break up with him and go with Harry under threat of hurting Peter. Peter is suffering from the roid rage that the alien costume brings about and doesn't care. He also comfronts Brock who has been doctoring photos of spiderman. Peter proves this and gets him fired. Peter also takes the costume to doctor connors who has a lot of Lizard stuff up on the walls.. hint hint..
Next day he's going out with Gwen stacy to where MJ works as a singer where her dad is hitting her up for cash. He steals her spotlight and Gwen picks up that he's doing it to just get back at MJ and she runs out. Peter doesn't give a **** and goes off on them. MJ's dad doesn't like this and steps up to Peter. He takes him out and stops only after hitting MJ. He realizes it's the suit that is making him do these things and decides to get rid of it. Just so happens he web slings to the top of a church and attempts to get it off with no luck. Even more lucky that Brock is in the church inside. Beyond lucky is that the church bells ring and the costume melts away... and lands in Brocks hands.
Brock finds sandman and makes the team up happen to get rid of Spiderman. They kidnap Gwen Stacy and take her up a 70 story building for the classic drop scene. Both sandman and venom start kicking the living **** out of spiderman leading to MJ to beg Harry to help him. He comes to the rescue as Venom is about to impale him. Pumpkin bomb after pumpkin bomb the battle rages on. Gwen is dropped and only a matter of feet away from death she is saved without any neck injury to boot. She goes to kiss him again but Spiderman turns her down. Venom is about to impale spiderman again but Harry gets in the way taking the force.
There's a subplot about sandman doing all the crimes to raise money for his kids health but who cares about that stuff besides it's the kid who eventually tells sandman to stop kicking spiderman's ass. Venom is also shanked. So the Alien costume leaves Eddie and goes after spiderman. Peter remembers about the bell and starts hitting the bars making the noise eventually winning the battle.
MJ, Gwen and Peter are all still alive but sadly Harry isn't. At the very least Harry did forgive peter just before he died.
Here's the latest on Spider-Man 3, and as usual, this contains a fair amount of spoilers. Confirmed spoilers, at that, coming from one source near the production and verified with at least two more. Just about the entire film has been discussed here at film ick at some time or another, so by clicking on Spider-man in the tags at the bottom of this post you should be able to find an answer for just about any Spider-Man 3 question you have.
Here, though, are a few more interesting bits and pieces, including some shocking Venom business and even a little tiny bit about Carnage. Enjoy.
What role does Dr. Connors have this time?
It's in his class that Peter and Gwen Stacey (Bryce Dallas Howard, soon to reteam with Shyamalan) are first brought together. Later, he takes a look at Peter's black costume and this is when we see lots of his lizardy research material around the lab - not so much a set-up for part 4 as an injoke for the fans.
Who gets the job at the Bugle that Peter and Eddie Brock are competing for?
Peter proves that Eddie has been doctoring photos of Spider-Man and as a result, Eddie gets fired. This is during Peter's black-suit phase.
Does Peter dump a load of water on the Sandman to beat him in the final battle?
No - Sandman gets washed away in a much earlier fight, shortly after the symbiote has attached itself to Peter. Sandman actually stands down in the final battle.
Who lives, who dies?
Well, there's a lot of misinformation about this, even close to the production, but I can now confirm that Sandman, Aunt May, Mary Jane and Gwen all live, while Eddie Brock and Harry die. The symbiote survives too, an alien parasite all alone, left looking for a new host. Surely this leaves the Spider-Man team cornered? Surely this means Carnage must appear in a future film?
When does Venom first rear his ugly head?
The symbiote is hanging around Central Park, but as for Venom, the recognisbale alien face with all the scary, jagged teeth? Believe it or not, Venom first rears his ugly head when Peter and his Russian landlord get into an argument about rent. That poor Russian guy.
Why does Harry have a change of heart?
Well, at first, he certainly doesn't have a change of heart. Very early on, he has a big fight with Peter - much detailed previously on film ick - and Peter takes a few good knocks before putting Harry down. When Harry comes around, he doesn't have much memory of what has been going on, or of his bitter history with Peter. It all starts coming back to him later, however, when Mary Jane and Peter have a black suit-fuelled tiff and she comes running to Harry for comfort. Harry now hits upon the idea of exploiting his Green Goblin alter ego to approach Mary Jane and manipulate her.
It's Spider-Man's actions in the final battle, risking his life to save Gwen and Mary Jane, that seem to bring Harry round. He gets in the way of one of Venom's attacks to save Peter, and this ends up being the ultimate sacrifice.
So what's the deal with The Sandman?
He's got a criminal history, and yes, it's true, he's the one who killed Ben Parker. He has a wife and a daughter, and the young girl is very ill. Much of the motivation behind the Sandman's actions, right from his very first appearance - and particularly his attempted Armored Truck heist - stem from his daughter's illness and the need to pay for medical treatment. I could get very political about this, but I won't.
Thomas Haden Church is truly superb in the role.
Any criticisms?
There are a few neat coincidences, but most of them aren't too off-putting. The two most notable, I suppose are Gwen Stacey being Peter's study partner and the daughter of police head honcho Captain George Stacey - this makes for some convenient plotting - and Peter's arrival at the Church just when he wishes to get rid of the symbiote, the Church being the very place that this will be possible. Of course, Brock is there too, so that whole sequence might come off as far too convenient. Deus ex machina, sure, but perhaps it's part and parcel of the Spider-Man style.
On the other hand, the film has a lot of depth, takes itself just seriously enough and delivers on the slam-bang action everybody has been hoping for.
The Wall/Building is used towards the beginning of the movie where harry in full GG Glory first attacks peter, and tosses him into the side of the building. This also where they have a huge airal fight sequence leading to a chase into an alley where (yes as a previous plot spoiler had reported) Harry is knocked out and Peter saves him and brings him to a hospital.
The church sequence is used when Black Symbiote Spidey attempts to tear his suit off by the ringing of the church bell. Unknown to him that right under him in the church Brock is walking in where peices of the symbiote land on him and then bond with him.
I've seen the costume of Venom (yes hes in it, but only towards the end) and its extemely cool. Think all black latex with veins all over his upper half, reaching over onto his arms. However the veins also shape into the Spider thats on his chest in the comics (no white).
Trust me, the movie is shaping up well and is in good hands. But be prepared for A LOT of fight sequences including a revisit to the subway fight sequence (only underground this time).
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Q. ^What does it look like,any white spider emblems on the chest/back?
A. No wite. Black version of the current costume with the webbing on top
Q. Who are all the villains in this movie,and how much screen time does each one have?
A. Ven,San,GG2. Sandman is the main, building up to venom at end. GG has a good amount, though not sure how much time. Hes in 2 major battles.
Q. If Harry is the goblin,which one is he in the movie,GG2 or Hobgoblin?
A.Hes GG
Q. ^What does the goblin suit look like?
A. Nothing like the first movie. Picture a black version of a ski/snow boarder suit with belts across leg and razor blades on teh right arm. The mask is googles and a mouth mask in green. Nothing Goblin like.
Q. Does spidey fight two villains at once at any time?
A. Yes he fights two at one time.
Q. Does Venom have teeth,tongue?
A. Yes venom has nasty teeth, no where near exaggerated in the comics. Just really sharp yellow teeth, very fang like, it will be prosthetics. Tounge wil be CG.
Q. How big does Venom appear to be compared to spidey?
A. Venom will be the same size at Spidey. Basically the bad version of spidey.
Q. Is Topher Brock?
A. Topher is brock.
Q. Who dies in this movie?
A. Still undetermined. Though Harry will bite it.
Q. Does John Jameson confront Peter or MJ in the movie?
A. no idea.
Q. What kind of things does Sandman do in this movie power wise?
A. Grows a lot. Sandstorms. Hand as a sledgehammer. The FX will raise the bar.
Q. How much screen time does Dr.Connors have,does he mention anything about lizard experiments?
A. No clue on screen time, but connors studies teh symbiote sample. So we see the inside of his lab. Lizards references....maybe....
Q. Does the GG look cool,how much green does he have on him,is his black snow suit have a black hood that covers the top of his head,do the belts on his legs hold pumpkin bombs,is his goggles yellow lens,does he wear gloves of any kind,and why does Harry go with this suit instead of the one his father used?
A. He looks cool as an individual idea. But again, nothing remotely goblin like about him except the weapons, glider and some green on him. No hood, the belts hold two swords. One long one on his back, a smaller one on his right leg. Pumpkins bombs are in his glider. Goggles are black. Gloves are black. No idea why. Possible to make it more to his liking, a way to "improve".
Q. Does Venom fight in this movie or does he just show up as a cliffhanger?
A. Yes he fights. Again, he will fight Spidey with Sandman at the end, the movie leads up to this "battle royale" at the construction site. GG will also join in the fight, but not on the sides of Ven/San
Q. Does Venom's veins have a purple color to it?
A. Not that I know of.
Q. I'm kinda confused,does spidey wear the symbiote before Brock gets it?
A. Yes. After his date with MJ, the symbiote clings to his shoe and waits for Parker in his room one night. He then wakes up upside down on the side of a building wearing the symbiote costume.
Q.If spidey does wear the symbiote,what does it look like exactly?
A. The same costume as blue/red only black with all the scale detail and webbing over it. Not impressive.
Q. And how long does he wear the suit?
A. Not sure since the movies hasnt been peices together. But right now a good chunk since the movie is about Peter and how the symbiote possesses him, and the decisions he has to make.
Q. Who does he fight with it?
A. Sandman, robbers, and Harry
Q. What makes him take it off?
A. Bell Tower.
Q.Does the Sandman ever turn his hands into a mace?
A. No idea. Sledgehammer is all i know.
Q.Where do all the fights take place on/at?
A. All over. In the air/Alley, underground subway, armoured truck in the streets, construction site.
Q.Is there a cliffhanger at the end of this movie?
A. Not currently. But there is one scene that leaves questions opened about the return of the symbiote.
Q.Who does Bruce Campbell play?
A. Dont know.
Q.Where does the symbiote come from?
A. An astroid.
Q.Does spidey wear his regular red and blue spidey suit in the movie?
A. Yes.
Q.Is S-M3 and S-M4 being made back to back?
A. Nope. We wish we had the budget for that.
Q.Is Venom going to be the villain for S-M4,or is S-M3 going to be it for him?
A. End of the line for Brocks version of Venom, but not the symbiote itself.
Q.Is there lots of fights/action in this movie?
A. TONS. 4 BIG fight sequences. All very fun, and clever. Wont be disappointed in that department.
---
About 13 pages into the script you already get introduced to the Sandman, the alien symbiote and Green Goblin 2. The Alien symbiote comes from a meteor and it happens to touch and follow peter home without his knowledge. So it just sits in his apartment waiting....
Anyhow. we get an early fight with GG2 and Spidey that has Spidey on the recieving end of an ass kicking only to get turned around as GG2 gets pushed into a narrow alley and runs head first into a spider web clothes line hanging and almost killing Harry. Peter saves him and Harry doesn't remember much. So chalk up another mind wipe in the comic world. Flint gets turned into Sandman as he is being chased into a molecular test site and bam... becomes sandman.
MJ's career isn't doing so hot and she is a bit jealous of all the fame that Spiderman is getting. At the same time Peter is trying to find a way to propse to MJ. Gwen Stacy steps in as Peter Parker's tuter student since they both have Doctor Connors class together. She is also played up as a **** in the script and has dated Brock in the past but was nothing serious. She also introduces Spiderman during a "Spiderman Day" event and pulls an upside down kiss. This whole thing doesn't last long as Sandman is highjacking an armored truck. Spiderman kicks in and attempts to save the day. Think of this fight like the sandstorm in Mummy 2. The fight ends with Sandman getting away but not before Brock gets a snap shot of a "defeated" spiderman. When Peter finally figures out how to propse to MJ he takes her to this coffee joint and Gwen comes in only to ask Peter if he has that picture where she is kissing spiderman upside down. This does not please MJ at all.
Oh, side note... Brock, who from the script was hired only a week before (error already) and Peter are fighting for one of the staff positions on the bugle. Both are taking photos of spiderman only Brock's don't paint him in a pretty light. At the same time Aunt May and Peter are taken to the police station for some shocking news. Seems that Uncle ben's killer from the first film wasn't actually his killer. Just some guy that helped. The real killer is... You guessed it.. Sandman. So now Peter gets it personal with Sandman. He's pretty much hunting him down with no luck. Sittting by police scanners just incase. Even pushes MJ away when she tries to comfort him. He falls asleep curled up with the police scanner and this is the perfect time for the alien symbiote to make its move.. He wakes up the next morning high above the city in his black costume With the power that the alien costume gives him he easily tracks down Sandman and a massive battle goes on eventually leading to Sandman getting a load of water hit on him.
Spiderman goes back to the apartment where he meets the russian dude who bugs him for rent.. only this time Peter aint taking no ****. He tells off the guy and you see a hint of the aliens true form with the teeth and what not before he takes it off. MJ gets a new job and goes to Harry first since Peter is pushing her away. At this point Harry starts to remember everything. MJ and Harry kiss and she bolts out the door after realizing what she just did. When she gets back to her apartment there is someone waiting for her.. Green Goblin 2. He makes her make Peter meet them some place so he could force her to break up with him and go with Harry under threat of hurting Peter. Peter is suffering from the roid rage that the alien costume brings about and doesn't care. He also comfronts Brock who has been doctoring photos of spiderman. Peter proves this and gets him fired. Peter also takes the costume to doctor connors who has a lot of Lizard stuff up on the walls.. hint hint..
Next day he's going out with Gwen stacy to where MJ works as a singer where her dad is hitting her up for cash. He steals her spotlight and Gwen picks up that he's doing it to just get back at MJ and she runs out. Peter doesn't give a **** and goes off on them. MJ's dad doesn't like this and steps up to Peter. He takes him out and stops only after hitting MJ. He realizes it's the suit that is making him do these things and decides to get rid of it. Just so happens he web slings to the top of a church and attempts to get it off with no luck. Even more lucky that Brock is in the church inside. Beyond lucky is that the church bells ring and the costume melts away... and lands in Brocks hands.
Brock finds sandman and makes the team up happen to get rid of Spiderman. They kidnap Gwen Stacy and take her up a 70 story building for the classic drop scene. Both sandman and venom start kicking the living **** out of spiderman leading to MJ to beg Harry to help him. He comes to the rescue as Venom is about to impale him. Pumpkin bomb after pumpkin bomb the battle rages on. Gwen is dropped and only a matter of feet away from death she is saved without any neck injury to boot. She goes to kiss him again but Spiderman turns her down. Venom is about to impale spiderman again but Harry gets in the way taking the force.
There's a subplot about sandman doing all the crimes to raise money for his kids health but who cares about that stuff besides it's the kid who eventually tells sandman to stop kicking spiderman's ass. Venom is also shanked. So the Alien costume leaves Eddie and goes after spiderman. Peter remembers about the bell and starts hitting the bars making the noise eventually winning the battle.
MJ, Gwen and Peter are all still alive but sadly Harry isn't. At the very least Harry did forgive peter just before he died.
Here's the latest on Spider-Man 3, and as usual, this contains a fair amount of spoilers. Confirmed spoilers, at that, coming from one source near the production and verified with at least two more. Just about the entire film has been discussed here at film ick at some time or another, so by clicking on Spider-man in the tags at the bottom of this post you should be able to find an answer for just about any Spider-Man 3 question you have.
Here, though, are a few more interesting bits and pieces, including some shocking Venom business and even a little tiny bit about Carnage. Enjoy.
What role does Dr. Connors have this time?
It's in his class that Peter and Gwen Stacey (Bryce Dallas Howard, soon to reteam with Shyamalan) are first brought together. Later, he takes a look at Peter's black costume and this is when we see lots of his lizardy research material around the lab - not so much a set-up for part 4 as an injoke for the fans.
Who gets the job at the Bugle that Peter and Eddie Brock are competing for?
Peter proves that Eddie has been doctoring photos of Spider-Man and as a result, Eddie gets fired. This is during Peter's black-suit phase.
Does Peter dump a load of water on the Sandman to beat him in the final battle?
No - Sandman gets washed away in a much earlier fight, shortly after the symbiote has attached itself to Peter. Sandman actually stands down in the final battle.
Who lives, who dies?
Well, there's a lot of misinformation about this, even close to the production, but I can now confirm that Sandman, Aunt May, Mary Jane and Gwen all live, while Eddie Brock and Harry die. The symbiote survives too, an alien parasite all alone, left looking for a new host. Surely this leaves the Spider-Man team cornered? Surely this means Carnage must appear in a future film?
When does Venom first rear his ugly head?
The symbiote is hanging around Central Park, but as for Venom, the recognisbale alien face with all the scary, jagged teeth? Believe it or not, Venom first rears his ugly head when Peter and his Russian landlord get into an argument about rent. That poor Russian guy.
Why does Harry have a change of heart?
Well, at first, he certainly doesn't have a change of heart. Very early on, he has a big fight with Peter - much detailed previously on film ick - and Peter takes a few good knocks before putting Harry down. When Harry comes around, he doesn't have much memory of what has been going on, or of his bitter history with Peter. It all starts coming back to him later, however, when Mary Jane and Peter have a black suit-fuelled tiff and she comes running to Harry for comfort. Harry now hits upon the idea of exploiting his Green Goblin alter ego to approach Mary Jane and manipulate her.
It's Spider-Man's actions in the final battle, risking his life to save Gwen and Mary Jane, that seem to bring Harry round. He gets in the way of one of Venom's attacks to save Peter, and this ends up being the ultimate sacrifice.
So what's the deal with The Sandman?
He's got a criminal history, and yes, it's true, he's the one who killed Ben Parker. He has a wife and a daughter, and the young girl is very ill. Much of the motivation behind the Sandman's actions, right from his very first appearance - and particularly his attempted Armored Truck heist - stem from his daughter's illness and the need to pay for medical treatment. I could get very political about this, but I won't.
Thomas Haden Church is truly superb in the role.
Any criticisms?
There are a few neat coincidences, but most of them aren't too off-putting. The two most notable, I suppose are Gwen Stacey being Peter's study partner and the daughter of police head honcho Captain George Stacey - this makes for some convenient plotting - and Peter's arrival at the Church just when he wishes to get rid of the symbiote, the Church being the very place that this will be possible. Of course, Brock is there too, so that whole sequence might come off as far too convenient. Deus ex machina, sure, but perhaps it's part and parcel of the Spider-Man style.
On the other hand, the film has a lot of depth, takes itself just seriously enough and delivers on the slam-bang action everybody has been hoping for.
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The symbiote is hanging around Central Park, but as for Venom, the recognisbale alien face with all the scary, jagged teeth? Believe it or not, Venom first rears his ugly head when Peter and his Russian landlord get into an argument about rent. That poor Russian guy.
I wonder if this is suppose to mean Black-suit Peter and the Landlord get into it or if there was a scene that involved Peter/Landlord and Venom was lurking around.
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Its refering to part of the mirror scene that got cut, where he would see Venom in the mirror(or rather what Peter would be).
If anything this scene should have been in the movie to make it more effective for adding deph and NOT in the trailers to make people think "Wtf? That's Venom!? Lame." Because we all know that's just a Peter Parker vision, or as Comic terms would have it 'Poison'.Its refering to part of the mirror scene that got cut, where he would see Venom in the mirror(or rather what Peter would be).
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The whole idea of Gwen originally being in the finale would have been alot more reasonable and made alot more sense.... MJ persuading Harry would have made for some better scenes.
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Its refering to part of the mirror scene that got cut, where he would see Venom in the mirror(or rather what Peter would be).
Thanks, I forgot about that. I wish they would have had it in the film.
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