The Perfect Hulk Movie

[Roose Bolton]

Technically they all turn into Shrek.

 

[Flint Marko]

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Ang's Hulk film was awesome.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Yep, it was more complex....it made him genetically mutated by his insane dad (in no Hulk comics)....it made him endure a childhood of domestic violence (in no Hulk comic)....it made him an orphan adopted by another family (in no Hulk comic)....it made him full of tissue repairing and body growing nanobots (in no Hulk comic)......making up new **** can get very complex.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Banner

Wrong, and that isn't what was implied. The daddy issues and psychological pathos Bruce suffered ever since childhood was complex. Not to mention, even the MCU Hulk isn't super faithful to the comics.

 

[Wildcard]

Yep, it was more complex....it made him genetically mutated by his insane dad (in no Hulk comics)....it made him endure a childhood of domestic violence (in no Hulk comic)....it made him an orphan adopted by another family (in no Hulk comic)....it made him full of tissue repairing and body growing nanobots (in no Hulk comic)......making up new **** can get very complex.

Huh? Bruce totally had an ******* for a dad in the comics, so on that end Ang was very, very faithful to the books and just expanded on that particular element. As stated, Bruce's dad is a big reason for the Hulk so the domestic violence has been there for a while, long before Ang's film. Only thing he did was change Brian's name to David and there ya go.

I'm perfectly fine with the things that were changed / added to the movie (aside from David being the Absorbing Man). Changes happen, especially going from comic to film. It's just all about whether those changes were good or not. In this case, for the most part I'd say they were.

Oh and just to double down, everybody likes to give Ang s#%& for the gamma mutated dogs but that also appeared in the comics before....and before Ang's film, I might add. t:
Yeah, looks like Ang was a lot more faithful to the comics than most protest. Kinda makes ya wonder who's really reading them comics.

 

[MbJ]

Any ideal Hulk film would have to introduce She-Hulk. She's one of my faves and I really want the MCU to use her.

 

[Doc Ock]

I like both Hulk films, but I think for a perfect Hulk film is...I don't know? He is a great character with some of the very best stories in comics (John Byrne, Greg Pak, and Peter David's run come to mind). I think I'm fine with him slowly being built up in the MCU in other films before getting another chance at a solo film. Slowly add in supporting characters and villains from the Hulk comics into the MCU, ease the audience into preparing for a Hulk solo film.

 

[Levsky]

The perfect Hulk movie should be less dark and angst-type than our previous one. I don't want it to feel like comedy but I'm not a fan of showing Banner's tragedy for the third time either. In the (possible) next installment of TIH they should picture Hulk more as a hero than a frightful beast.

 

[Lord]

I guess that the next film should either be like the Indestructible Hulk comics where he works with SHIELD for Banner to be given resources, or Planet Hulk, if the heroes indeed shoot him into space, or maybe he ends up that way after the battle against Thanos and nobody goes to look for him, that would make a Planet Hulk adaptation possible without having to turn the heroes into *****es.

 

[A Necessary Evil]

Huh? Bruce totally had an ******* for a dad in the comics, so on that end Ang was very, very faithful to the books and just expanded on that particular element. As stated, Bruce's dad is a big reason for the Hulk so the domestic violence has been there for a while, long before Ang's film. Only thing he did was change Brian's name to David and there ya go.

I'm perfectly fine with the things that were changed / added to the movie (aside from David being the Absorbing Man). Changes happen, especially going from comic to film. It's just all about whether those changes were good or not. In this case, for the most part I'd say they were.

Oh and just to double down, everybody likes to give Ang s#%& for the gamma mutated dogs but that also appeared in the comics before....and before Ang's film, I might add. t:
Yeah, looks like Ang was a lot more faithful to the comics than most protest. Kinda makes ya wonder who's really reading them comics.

Let's not forget even the origin (while still a massive departure from the comics) was much, much closer in terms of an faithfulness and spirit (IE saving someone from a dangerous thing going off, only for it to turn him into Hulk).

 

[Victarion]

I loved Ang's movie. I didn't like the comic book panels.

 

[kguillou]

Imo, Incredible Hulk was the perfect Hulk movie. I truly, hoenstly do not undestand why it is so maligned. Besides Liv Tyler's bland acting, Norton was great, Tim Roth was great, William Hurt was great, Hulk himself was beautifully rendered,it was dark, dramatic, had a great final battle...I don't get what else people want from a hulk film???

 

[Flint Marko]

Imo, Incredible Hulk was the perfect Hulk movie. I truly, hoenstly do not undestand why it is so maligned. Besides Liv Tyler's bland acting, Norton was great, Tim Roth was great, William Hurt was great, Hulk himself was beautifully rendered,it was dark, dramatic, had a great final battle...I don't get what else people want from a hulk film???

I dont think it's hated, it's just largely regarded as mediocre. I myself like it but it isn't something I'm dying to rewatch anytime soon.

 

[Silvermoth]

It was a bit too action heavy and every scene that didn't have action wasnt exactly done well. I think that's why it only got mediocre reviews at the time

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

I think it was mostly Tyler and her and Norton not having that much chemistry. Also the 3rd act was way too action heavy for that time

 

[Jochimus]

What do I think would make a perfect Hulk movie?

1) Keep Ruffalo.
2) Lose the romance.
3) Bring in more dark comedy.
4) Make Doc Samson a full-time supporting character to counterpoint Ross' general nutbaggery.
5) The Leader.
6) For that matter, more rejects from failed attempts to re-create the Super-Soldier program.
7) More government attempts at anti-Hulk armor, weapons, etc. sprung out of the creation of War Machine/Iron Patriot, the Hulkbuster armor, etc.

 

[Levsky]

You forgot about introducing She-Hulk at last. And maybe Rick Jones (he was mentioned in TIH already).

 

[Wildcard]

Rick Jones' introduction is long overdue, as well as Jennifer Walters at this point. Things like this are why the Planet Hulk story would be bad for business in terms of a movie right now. Way too much ground that hasn't even been covered on Earth.

Btw, I want to clarify that for me personally, I actually really love both films. Just seems like the 2008 movie was what people wanted in 2003 and Ang's movie is what would probably have been a smash-hit in 2008 since it was as dark and emotionally as heavy as most wanted.

But yeah, looking back the major flaw with 2008 was Liv Tyler. Again, I love the gal but she stuck out like a sore thumb against everyone whether it was Norton, Hurt, Roth, Nelson or Burrell.

Truthfully, going back to my earlier statement....let's just keep everybody and recast Tyler. Boom, perfect Hulk cast.

 

[Dark Raven]

The Ang Lee Hulk battle with the army in the desert was the one redeeming feature of that movie. If that had been in The Incredible Hulk movie but with current technology and Mark Ruffalo in the role, that would've been so much better. It could have been a middle action scene before fighting the Abomination.

I agree that Jennifer Connelly and Sam Elliot would be better in those roles.

Abomination should have been more like his comic appearance though with the amphibian ears.

 

[SuperFerret]

The key to a perfect Hulk movie would be to limit the Hulk's appearances. Treat it like the TV show, where it's mostly Bruce's story and the other guy shows up every so often.

 

[The Question]

My perfect Hulk movie, I imagine, would be a far cry from most people's perfect Hulk movie, because my perfect Hulk movie would be extremely light on action. As in, I really wouldn't want there to be a big action set piece for a climax, and one, maybe two action beats throughout the whole film.

I don't really care about action. In fact, I usually find it quite boring. To me, it's just things happening on screen, and I really desperately need to be emotionally invested in some way before I start to enjoy the action. To me, a good action sequence is one where the action comes from a place of motivation, where the action comes from characters attempting to achieve or thwart something that matters to them, that I can identify, and that I care about. It's why I hate the light saber duels in the prequels, because the characters really aren't fighting for anything besides a generic notion of winning, and nothing about the fight is particularly visceral or personal.

Furthermore, the most interesting things to me about The Hulk have very little to do with actually seeing The Hulk on screen. For me, it's all about Banner as a character. What he's going through, and how The Hulk burdens him. The details of how Bruce hides from he authorities, how his condition weighs on him emotionally, the moral dilemmas he faces, the things he has to sacrifice for the well being of others, that's the stuff I come to the table for. The Hulk is just the catalyst for that. I remember one particular Hulk run that I was fond of where we almost never saw The Hulk. We only really saw the moment right before Banner changed and then the aftermath. I always thought that was really neat.

Ultimately, to me, The Hulk isn't a superhero story. It's a werewolf story. And in a werewolf story, the centerpiece isn't seeing the werewolf. It's seeing how the human deals with the werewolf.

And when we do see The Hulk, again, I'm generally less interested in the action spectacle of The Hulk and more interested in seeing the raw humanity of The Hulk. I like seeing how Bruce's personality filters through that state of being. I like seeing the balance of how much being the Hulk changes who Bruce is and how much it doesn't. I like seeing The Hulk in situations where he has to interact with humans in a non-smashing capacity, or when he has to run for his life from his pursuers. When the Hulk fights, I'm more interested in the Hulk as the cornered animal, not the Hulk as the superhero.

And, I want to stress that I generally do not consider Bruce Banner and The Hulk to be two separate entities, and I prefer interpretations of the character that think the same way I do. I prefer to see The Hulk not as a separate person with a separate personality who just happens to share Bruce's body, but Bruce Banner in an altered state of consciousness.


So, with all of that said, my ideal Hulk movie would be a relatively quiet one. The Hulk would show up maybe twice in the whole film, in at least one of those instances without any real action, and it would mostly be about Bruce dealing with the burden of being The Hulk. The Leader would be the main villain, wanting to harness The Hulk's power for his own evil schemes, but the climax of the film wouldn't be a huge action spectacle where The Hulk fights a Hulk-ified version of The Leader or one of The Leader's giant robots or something, and would not involve the destruction of a town or city. I'd want it to be more cerebral, with a lot of dialogue between Bruce and Stern and a lot of exchanged ideas, perhaps even have Bruce save the day as himself without transforming as a little character win for him.


Granted, I totally understand that this would not be most people's preferred Hulk movie and I totally get why. Just my two cents.


TL;DNR:

The key to a perfect Hulk movie would be to limit the Hulk's appearances. Treat it like the TV show, where it's mostly Bruce's story and the other guy shows up every so often.

 

[Dark Raven]

^ You might prefer watching a character-driven episode of the Fugitive. No Hulk at all, just the man on the run, helping people in need etc.

 

[MbJ]

Abomination should have been more like his comic appearance though with the amphibian ears.

Couldn't disagree more. The elf ears always looked stupid as hell to me.

 

[R_Hythlodeus]

My perfect Hulk movie, I imagine, would be a far cry from most people's perfect Hulk movie, because my perfect Hulk movie would be extremely light on action. As in, I really wouldn't want there to be a big action set piece for a climax, and one, maybe two action beats throughout the whole film.

I don't really care about action. In fact, I usually find it quite boring. To me, it's just things happening on screen, and I really desperately need to be emotionally invested in some way before I start to enjoy the action. To me, a good action sequence is one where the action comes from a place of motivation, where the action comes from characters attempting to achieve or thwart something that matters to them, that I can identify, and that I care about. It's why I hate the light saber duels in the prequels, because the characters really aren't fighting for anything besides a generic notion of winning, and nothing about the fight is particularly visceral or personal.

Furthermore, the most interesting things to me about The Hulk have very little to do with actually seeing The Hulk on screen. For me, it's all about Banner as a character. What he's going through, and how The Hulk burdens him. The details of how Bruce hides from he authorities, how his condition weighs on him emotionally, the moral dilemmas he faces, the things he has to sacrifice for the well being of others, that's the stuff I come to the table for. The Hulk is just the catalyst for that. I remember one particular Hulk run that I was fond of where we almost never saw The Hulk. We only really saw the moment right before Banner changed and then the aftermath. I always thought that was really neat.

Ultimately, to me, The Hulk isn't a superhero story. It's a werewolf story. And in a werewolf story, the centerpiece isn't seeing the werewolf. It's seeing how the human deals with the werewolf.

And when we do see The Hulk, again, I'm generally less interested in the action spectacle of The Hulk and more interested in seeing the raw humanity of The Hulk. I like seeing how Bruce's personality filters through that state of being. I like seeing the balance of how much being the Hulk changes who Bruce is and how much it doesn't. I like seeing The Hulk in situations where he has to interact with humans in a non-smashing capacity, or when he has to run for his life from his pursuers. When the Hulk fights, I'm more interested in the Hulk as the cornered animal, not the Hulk as the superhero.

And, I want to stress that I generally do not consider Bruce Banner and The Hulk to be two separate entities, and I prefer interpretations of the character that think the same way I do. I prefer to see The Hulk not as a separate person with a separate personality who just happens to share Bruce's body, but Bruce Banner in an altered state of consciousness.


So, with all of that said, my ideal Hulk movie would be a relatively quiet one. The Hulk would show up maybe twice in the whole film, in at least one of those instances without any real action, and it would mostly be about Bruce dealing with the burden of being The Hulk. The Leader would be the main villain, wanting to harness The Hulk's power for his own evil schemes, but the climax of the film wouldn't be a huge action spectacle where The Hulk fights a Hulk-ified version of The Leader or one of The Leader's giant robots or something, and would not involve the destruction of a town or city. I'd want it to be more cerebral, with a lot of dialogue between Bruce and Stern and a lot of exchanged ideas, perhaps even have Bruce save the day as himself without transforming as a little character win for him.


Granted, I totally understand that this would not be most people's preferred Hulk movie and I totally get why. Just my two cents.


TL;DNR:

couldn't agree more.

 

[Xrathe]

Ang Lee...Hulk Dogs. That is all.

I thought Bana did a good enough job as Banner, but everything in that movie that revolved around Nick Nolte was absolutely ridiculous.

It's going to take a creative director to bring the dichotomy of two people living in Banner's head to the screen without making it seem forced and silly.

I think at this point Hulk vs Rulk is the way to go. Banner needs to bleed through into the Hulk more as well than in previous films. The audience is already familiar with Ross to an extent and the movie could end with Hulk being sent into space, leading up to a Planet Hulk movie further expanding the galaxy so to speak.