No Way Home The Road To No Way Home: The Previous Spider-Man Movies Rewatch Thread

[Scarlet Spider]

Why do you think people pray for? People of all different religions pray for all sorts of things. For answers and guidance, etc. You can think it's silly to expect something to happen just because someone prayed to God for it to happen (even something as crazy striking someone down), but again pleading to God in prayer for help and answers is a very normal part of Christianity.

You were complaining about a lack of Christianity being shown when it comes to Eddies character but once it does you think it's silly?

Eddie prayed to God for Peter to be killed and moments later something worse seemingly answered ,giving him all the power to do just that himself.

You've missed the plot.

Because asking God to murder someone is not Christianity. It's idiocy. It gives Topher's character the maturity and intelligence of a child.

The real Eddie Brock understood religion. His life was in shambles and was on the verge of taking his own life. He knew that was wrong and because of his beliefs, he turned to God for forgiveness.

It's not a "great" scene. It was out of character for Eddie, and from a writing standpoint, it was worse. Topher's character felt flat.

 

[ernesth100]

I could see the supposed irony in the scene and intended depth in the moment. And honestly it was the best way to get the symbiote from Peter to Eddie in time for the finale. I just feel it was slightly drastic. But as stated before there are more insane moments in a the script.

Fandomwire discusses Dylan O'Brien and Logan Lerman being up for Spiderman , 2015


AMC movie talk reacts to the MCU Peter Parker shortlist, 2015


AMC discusses Tom Holland's casting. Featuring the late, and very great, Jon Schnepp

Lerman or Dylan would've been PERFECT FOR ADULT 616 PETER!

Huge missed opportunity if this is Tom's last Spider-Man film. Because we still haven't seen a fully fulfilled happy ending to a Spider-Man series. Cap gets one, Iron Man gets one, Batman gets one, they even tried to give Superman a satisfying arc.

But God forbid Peter grows up and lives a happy life.

 

[Spidey_62]

Still think it was a missed opportunity for the ASM movies having it be in high school with the origin again, especially cause they didn't wind up really committing to the high school setting or Peter's school days too much really... sure it got more time than the Raimi movie but compare it to the MCU approach later where he's been in high school and they stuck to it for a trilogy and other appearances. Casting a younger actor helped, and at least he was already running around out there when we first see him.

I believe Andrew was the same age as Tobey was when he was also cast. They should have started with Peter already in college as Spidey a la the 90s show as an example. Heck at this point honestly that would be a bigger change for an adaptation to start out these days after seeing everything start out from that same starting point again and again pretty much except for the animated movie and the PS4 game- two welcome rare exceptions to the norm.

The first ASM movie isn't bad, it's got good performances and a lot to like about it but it just feels like a less iconic version of the first movie- really wished they would have gone all in on doing the different things that were there instead of wasting so much of that on the origin. I might honestly prefer ASM2 for that reason, it's a worse movie than ASM but it's an interestingly entertaining mess that tries to go to some different territory... and they shuffle him out of school instantly because Andrew was looking too old for high school already haha. Therein the case in point.

I'm glad they did the high school stuff for the MCU and stuck with it at least, hopefully we see Tom sticking around and getting to mature- or if they scrap it all again at least just start somewhere else.

 

[GuestStar2004]

While personally I'm on the fence about the future of Holland and the MCU. i will only be convinced he is staying in the MCU when the 3rd deal closes. but really MCU Spider-man is a comedy. and its probably always gonna be a comedy. its just the tone they are going for. if Peter does go to college there would probably be the wacky scene where ned walks in and its his new roommate (surprise, hehe). otherwise i think they will want to keep him a kid for as long as possible.

i believe Marvel still have a crossover movie they can use him for, as part of the deal.

 

[Frodo]

Nicholas Cage in talks for Green Goblin role, 2000
'Spider-Man' Casting Nic Cage?

Willem Dafoe is cast as The Green Goblin, 2000
More Spider-Man Casting News: Dafoe Is Green Goblin - IGN

Asa Butterfield talks about his Spiderman audition
Asa Butterfield Reflects on His Spider-Man Audition

Dylan O'Brien talks about Spiderman rumors, 2015
Dylan O'Brien Says He Has Not Auditioned To Play Spider-Man

 

[ernesth100]

While personally I'm on the fence about the future of Holland and the MCU. i will only be convinced he is staying in the MCU when the 3rd deal closes. but really MCU Spider-man is a comedy. and its probably always gonna be a comedy. its just the tone they are going for. if Peter does go to college there would probably be the wacky scene where ned walks in and its his new roommate (surprise, hehe). otherwise i think they will want to keep him a kid for as long as possible.

i believe Marvel still have a crossover movie they can use him for, as part of the deal.

I do believe if NWH performs to expectations they'll likely have one last high school movie where Peter graduates.

However I wouldn't mind another time skip. Perhaps change up the cast for college we get Peter rooming with Harry and meeting Gwen.

You could still have Ned, Flash and MJ but perhaps they go to a different school or took different routes. Maybe Flash joined the army, you only have to be 18.

Ned could be in the same school he's also a genius. MJ could have decided college wasn't for her and went to work at the Bugle giving a bit of conflict between her and Peter since they slander Spidey. They did that in PS4 game sort of.

 

[GuestStar2004]

I do believe if NWH performs to expectations they'll likely have one last high school movie where Peter graduates.

However I wouldn't mind another time skip. Perhaps change up the cast for college we get Peter rooming with Harry and meeting Gwen.

I just don't see this happening. i don't think Marvel will touch alot of these characters. its like holding out that one day Peter will meet the REAL Mary Jane. but lets be honest, MJ exists as a replacement. she isn't just a replacement love interest. she is also a non-subtle replacement for Mary Jane. they clearly went in assuming Mary Jane wasn't gonna exist.

My belief has always been, and even more so with the next movie. that they won't reintroduce new versions of 75% of whats been used in the Raimi and Webb movies. not counting multiverse shenanigans. and if they do... they will be very unrecognizably different for the sake of different.

Personally i get the feeling from looking at the MCU Spider-man movies that they are moving ahead at a very fast pace. not in terms of time jumps. they can't time jump if they are moving at an equal pace with other MCU movies. but more just the things that happen to peter like Aunt may finding out after 1 movie, then everyone finding out by the 2nd, then Spiderverse for 3rd. which is why i am on the fence that Sony and Marvel have a long drawn out plan for Spidey in the MCU

 

[Green Goblin]

The parallel universe where Nicholas Cage played Green Goblin in SM1 is the reality I wanna live in.

 

[Arachnerd]

I need manips of Nic Cage as Goblin desperately. For science.

 

[Nardz937]

I need manips of Nic Cage as Goblin desperately. For science.

 

[Arachnerd]

Magnificent.

 

[CaptainWagner]

While personally I'm on the fence about the future of Holland and the MCU. i will only be convinced he is staying in the MCU when the 3rd deal closes. but really MCU Spider-man is a comedy. and its probably always gonna be a comedy. its just the tone they are going for. if Peter does go to college there would probably be the wacky scene where ned walks in and its his new roommate (surprise, hehe). otherwise i think they will want to keep him a kid for as long as possible.

i believe Marvel still have a crossover movie they can use him for, as part of the deal.

Sony definitely seems ruled by the same inane editorial obsession with not letting Peter grow up that ran the comics into the ground with OMD and again with the post-Superior era. I do think they've got to move him to college within the next two movies.

It seems obvious to make Harry the college roommate. Then you have the classic drama of Peter becoming one of the "cool kids" while Ned winds up more of an outcast. I love the idea of MJ going to work for the Bugle, but that would never work with the InfoWars-type take they seem to be doing in the MCU, which stinks. Flash joining the army is also a lot less likely since he's rich now, so who knows what happens there. Maybe he goes to a rival school and is shocked to discover that Peter has become popular.

 

[CadeSkywalker28]

I'm just watching TASM and I have to say Andrew Garfield is a much more complex character than Holland and his jokes are much better written and delivered.

I'm writing this while Peter is fighting Lizard at school.

 

[Arachnerd]

That movie still has the best Stan Lee cameo ever.

 

[CadeSkywalker28]

Just watched TASM2 and find this movie not even close to being as bad as others say.

Is it messy? Yes. Is it bloated and underdeveloped at the same time? Yes.

But damn... This movie has a great idea for story. Acting, cinematography and music are amazing. Lots of elements shot like in a horror movie. I love that some of the scenes are very suspenseful. The goblin was great too, I love the scene when he is flying over Peter and Gwen laughing, plus Hans Zimmer's score... Perfect.

Villains have unique motivations not based on revenge, at least not in the beginning and if you cut all the Rhino stuff and all of those Sinister Six bull**** out of this movie and throw back the deleted scenes that develop the characters even more, it would be a very good movie.

 

[Spidey_62]

Hindsight and the franchise being in a less rudderless state today makes me able to watch ASM2 and have a good time, it's a badly paced mess full of a million ideas but it's an enjoyably bizarre mess. I love the insane score, the colorful cinematography, Andrew and Emma, all the Spidey stuff cause the suit looks great...

 

[CadeSkywalker28]

This scene is a masterpiece. Something personal between the characters, the atmosphere, cinematography, music, tension, uncertainty. This is why i love comic book movies.

I could watch it over and over instead of watching Homecoming and Far From Home again.

 

[Spidey_62]

This scene is a masterpiece. Something personal between the characters, the atmosphere, cinematography, music, tension, uncertainty. This is why i love comic book movies.

I could watch it over and over instead of watching Homecoming and Far From Home again.

Terrible Goblin design aside, I do like this scene a lot. The bit with Spidey first looking at Harry there's a lot of great body language emoting coming through his fully masked face which is really cool. I get more from that right there than digital emoting lens eyes. The crazy weird set piece locations were fun here, too.

 

[CadeSkywalker28]

Sometimes it looks good and sometimes bad, and maybe it's a matter of changing makeup and hair style between shooting? I don't know.

Meh.

Wow.

 

[MasterBoss]

Was watching Spider-Man 3 and Eddie really went to church and asked to KILL A MAN. Because he lost his job.


No one else found that insane?

Topher Grace after he saw the Venom trailer.

 

[Gothamsknight]

That Goblin design from TASM2 is absolutely atrocious.

 

[Scarlet Spider]

Topher Grace after he saw the Venom trailer.

What a goofball.

That 70's Venom was atrocious.

 

[Green Goblin]

DeeHan Goblin looked like a meth addict.

 

[Frodo]

Spiderman 3 critical reaction, Reuters, May 2007
Critics underwhelmed by 'Spider-Man 3'

The Amazing Spiderman review , Roger Ebert 2012
The Amazing Spider-Man movie review (2012) | Roger Ebert

Richard Roeper, real time reviews

Amazing Spiderman 2


Spiderman Homecoming


Spiderman Far From Home

 

[Green Goblin]

Spiderman 3 critical reaction, Reuters, May 2007
Critics underwhelmed by 'Spider-Man 3'

The Amazing Spiderman review , Roger Ebert 2012
The Amazing Spider-Man movie review (2012) | Roger Ebert

Richard Roeper, real time reviews

Amazing Spiderman 2


Spiderman Homecoming


Spiderman Far From Home

Always liked Roger Ebert - didn't always agree with him but he was always a fair reviewer. Interesting how he thought TASM was better than SM1. I think he even had SM2 as his 4th favourite film of 2004.