The Amazing Spider-Man 2 The Scene Gwen Stacey Died

[FN Spider-man]

I agree with this. I say just go for it. It'll add something special (and horrifying) to the movie.

I think some people have reservations about Harry killing Gwen because they want everything to be exactly like the comics. But this pays homage to the comics while also pursuing a vision that fits this universe. Peter and Harry will have better reasons to duke it out and it may be interesting to see them try and come to terms with eachother later on. Besides, Norman in this franchise IS still the "Big Bad." He's behind everything and that potential for him and Peter to truly be arch-enemies is still there, even if Norman isn't the one to kill Gwen.

In the end, for me anyways, it all depends on execution. I'm fine with taking creative directions with adaptations as long as the final product is good.

I agree with this but it'll have to be the way its done, however Norman is known for soo much more other than killing Gwen that made him Spidey's nemesis, this guy is always royally screwing Peter's life and puts it in a blender (when he isnt having amnesia >.>)

 

[Picard Sisko]

In other words, Norman is not a man you want to mess around with. Period.

 

[Spideyfan117]

In other words, Norman is not a man you want to mess around with. Period.

I still like referring to that sequence in the Ultimate comics where Norman calls Peter into his office and transforms right in front of him to intimidate him. That was one of the most intimidating things he's ever done in any incarnation, imo. So yeah, you don't want to mess around with him. He's self-absorbed, psychotic, powerful, and willing to sacrifice anything (or anyone) to get what he wants.

 

[FN Spider-man]

^ I agree man I litterally was creeped out and scared for Peter and was like dang I mean esp wehn they were watching tv and Norman put his nahd on Peter's shoulder I don't know about you but if I were in his shoes I would have pee'd myself

 

[Picard Sisko]

I still like referring to that sequence in the Ultimate comics where Norman calls Peter into his office and transforms right in front of him to intimidate him. That was one of the most intimidating things he's ever done in any incarnation, imo. So yeah, you don't want to mess around with him. He's self-absorbed, psychotic, powerful, and willing to sacrifice anything (or anyone) to get what he wants.

I felt the same exact way when I read that scene. To me, THAT has to be in a movie at some point. It also showed how Norman was really watching Peter Parker, and that obviously fits in with Webb's universe.

 

[Spideyfan117]

The "We have plans for you, Peter Parker" line from the international trailer sort of fits that idea of Norman. Creepy bastard. lol

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

I agree with this. I say just go for it. It'll add something special (and horrifying) to the movie.

I think some people have reservations about Harry killing Gwen because they want everything to be exactly like the comics. But this pays homage to the comics while also pursuing a vision that fits this universe. Peter and Harry will have better reasons to duke it out and it may be interesting to see them try and come to terms with eachother later on. Besides, Norman in this franchise IS still the "Big Bad." He's behind everything and that potential for him and Peter to truly be arch-enemies is still there, even if Norman isn't the one to kill Gwen.

In the end, for me anyways, it all depends on execution. I'm fine with taking creative directions with adaptations as long as the final product is good.

who says that an accurate comic version doesn't fit cinematically?

 

[FN Spider-man]

I relly hope that scene is implemineted and potrayed very well cause that very scene made me care and to take Ult Norman seriously and be very afraid

 

[Spideyfan117]

who says that an accurate comic version doesn't fit cinematically?

When did I say it couldn't? My post was to be viewed within the context of the Amazing Spider-man film universe. The idea is that certain deviations from canon could fit Marc Webb's vision better than sticking strictly to a direct panel-to-screen adaptation. Norman has already done so much to Peter in this universe. By having Harry kill Gwen as the Goblin, you add a new dynamic that still pays homage to the original but, at the same time, makes sense within the context of the events in the story. Norman is dying, or at least Harry thinks so. Harry is given free reign at Oscorp and, as such, has access to certain potential technological and biological benefits. If Harry goes after Spider-man to save Norman, which seems to be the direction here, it makes sense that he's the one to do all of this. It doesn't take away from Norman, because he's already done terrible things to Peter. But it adds something to Harry while keeping the same basic story elements intact.

 

[Spideyfan117]

I relly hope that scene is implemineted and potrayed very well cause that very scene made me care and to take Ult Norman seriously and be very afraid

It would be a beautiful scene to see on screen (especially if they gave Norman shark tanks in his office like the comics O_O ).

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

When did I say it couldn't? My post was to be viewed within the context of the Amazing Spider-man film universe. The idea is that certain deviations from canon could fit Marc Webb's vision better than sticking strictly to a direct panel-to-screen adaptation. Norman has already done so much to Peter in this universe. By having Harry kill Gwen as the Goblin, you add a new dynamic that still pays homage to the original but, at the same time, makes sense within the context of the events in the story. Norman is dying, or at least Harry thinks so. Harry is given free reign at Oscorp and, as such, has access to certain potential technological and biological benefits. If Harry goes after Spider-man to save Norman, which seems to be the direction here, it makes sense that he's the one to do all of this. It doesn't take away from Norman, because he's already done terrible things to Peter. But it adds something to Harry while keeping the same basic story elements intact.

okay and yeah, I agree, it's perfectly fine to have harry kill gwen. as long as gwen is finished after asm2

 

[sl500jazz]

So I just wanted to compile everything that I noticed into one post. Based on the way that the characters are dressed, I think that this could be a potential course of events for the film from January to May (Winter to late Spring) during Peter's senior year. Again, nothing concrete, only speculation:

Spoiler

Introduction:

Rising action:

Climax with the Goblin/Electro fight:

Resolution with graduation finally arriving:

Gwen leaves?

I could see the graduation happening early, if (as someone posted earlier) the story is being told as a flashback by Peter.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

that last picture I think is just him reminiscing about uncle ben but you may be onto something

 

[Picard Sisko]

If the Winter scenes are only in the introduction, that wouldn't mean the synopsis is misleading.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

If the Winter scenes are only in the introduction, that wouldn't mean the synopsis is misleading.

who said it was?

and even if it were to be, it wouldn't be the first time this series mislead the audience

 

[Airnick]

who said it was?

and even if it were to be, it wouldn't be the first time this series mislead the audience

What would be the first time? The untold story?.

 

[amazingly atiba]

i think the grad scene is in the beggining

 

[Airnick]

i think the grad scene is in the beggining

I'm with you on this one atiba, I still think it is too.

 

[Spideyfan117]

I'm with you on this one atiba, I still think it is too.

That seems to make the most sense. I mean, why would he see Captain Stacy's spectre at the end of the film? It would be so weird. Aren't ghosts, spectres, hallucinations, etc., supposed to foreshadow something in a story, not just randomly appear at the end?

 

[FN Spider-man]

I agree with you three

 

[Picard Sisko]

who said it was?

and even if it were to be, it wouldn't be the first time this series mislead the audience

Digificwriter said it would be misleading.

i think the grad scene is in the beggining

I do agree with this.

 

[sl500jazz]

i think the grad scene is in the beggining

How do you think they are going to work the winter scenes around graduation? Do you think he'll be telling the story via flashback (jumping through different points in time) or do the Winter scenes with Peter and Gwen happen several months later? I'm really starting to think that chronologically most of the Winter/cold weather stuff comes before the May/June graduation. Perhaps, the ghost is foreshadowing for TASM3?

 

[Super Jim]

^ Look, faking us Fanboys out would be fun and all for them, but for the general audience, stupid.

Look, they've already indicated that they want to do Gwen's death scene correctly, right? And I think this is the one thing that we can likely count on. Not killing Gwen, when that is the main thing that makes her character so important in comic book lore, would just be wrong.

So faking out the audience, with effectively the exact setup of the death scene, and then having to duplicate it later, doesn't make a lot of sense.

Now we do know that there was a bridge scene filmed where Spiderman and Gwen swing down. Maybe this will be a nod to the bridge, and a kind of fake out, but I would expect that they would not have Peter try to catch Gwen with his web, which would work, and then later have it not work. Yes, maybe Gwen falls from the bridge and Peter swings down and saves her, and then later, at the clock tower/gear place, he doesn't have the time or room to swing down and tries to catch her with the web, causing her neck to snap.

Boy people are going to cry!!!!!

But what I'm trying to get at is doing it identical would not be likely. That makes me believe, even more, that unless the bridge scene is the same as what we are calling the "clock tower" scene, Gwen will die when we see this:

What a pretty shot, huh?

 

[FN Spider-man]

We'll be starting off before the summer cause if you watched the TASM2 trailer breakdown with marc he explained that the opening will be of him free falling

 

[Airnick]

^ Look, faking us Fanboys out would be fun and all for them, but for the general audience, stupid.

Look, they've already indicated that they want to do Gwen's death scene correctly, right? And I think this is the one thing that we can likely count on. Not killing Gwen, when that is the main thing that makes her character so important in comic book lore, would just be wrong.

So faking out the audience, with effectively the exact setup of the death scene, and then having to duplicate it later, doesn't make a lot of sense.

Now we do know that there was a bridge scene filmed where Spiderman and Gwen swing down. Maybe this will be a nod to the bridge, and a kind of fake out, but I would expect that they would not have Peter try to catch Gwen with his web, which would work, and then later have it not work. Yes, maybe Gwen falls from the bridge and Peter swings down and saves her, and then later, at the clock tower/gear place, he doesn't have the time or room to swing down and tries to catch her with the web, causing her neck to snap.

Boy people are going to cry!!!!!

But what I'm trying to get at is doing it identical would not be likely. That makes me believe, even more, that unless the bridge scene is the same as what we are calling the "clock tower" scene, Gwen will die when we see this:

What a pretty shot, huh?