World "The Spectacular Spider-Man" Appreciation Thread (possible spoilers)

[PeterBenParker]

If you're interested...

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I'm alright. Thanks, though!

 

[ItchyWebShooter]

I still prefer the TAS depiction of the black costume saga (especially the opening with the space shuttle crash), but I agree that SSM's Venom as a character is the superior version.

I did enjoy the space shuttle crash and the way they brought in Rhino and Shocker during TAS. I think that's overall the best arc of the series. Maybe the only better episode is "Turning Point" IMO.

I loved this take on Venom, but the "bro" stuff really got under my skin. TAS slightly edges it out for me.

I loved the bro stuff! People that age really talk that way lol...

source: I am 20

The first season was in a bargain bin at a Best Buy I frequent. Given the quality of the show, I'm tempted to buy it, though I'm curious how often I'd come back to rewatch it, even with its stellar quality. It didn't come with any extras, and none are needed, but I wonder whether I could just save the cash and find the episodes online instead, saving the money.

I bought the full series on iTunes, and I rewatch enough to justify the purchase, even if it's just an episode here and there. I say totally go for it (especially if it's in the bargain bin)!

 

[PeterBenParker]

I loved the bro stuff! People that age really talk that way lol...

source: I am 20

I'm 20 too, and yet I don't talk to my friends like that nor do people I know talk to their friends like that. It's mostly 'man', 'bud', etc. It was a bit obnoxious during the Spidey/Venom fights.

I was fine with the Peter/Eddie bits but was it really needed during the big battles too? I don't think it was. Also didn't help that it just didn't strike me as genuine.

 

[zeptron]

The only thing I didn't eally care for about Spectacular's Venom was his voice. His voice was better in TAS. Other than that, I liked how Spectacular's Venom actually used the info he had on Spidey rather than just chasing him around and making vague threats without actually following up on them. I felt that made him more of a threat that way.

 

[ItchyWebShooter]

I'm 20 too, and yet I don't talk to my friends like that nor do people I know talk to their friends like that. It's mostly 'man', 'bud', etc. It was a bit obnoxious during the Spidey/Venom fights.

I was fine with the Peter/Eddie bits but was it really needed during the big battles too? I don't think it was. Also didn't help that it just didn't strike me as genuine.

Eh, different strokes. I know many people don't like it, but it never bothered me.

The only thing I didn't eally care for about Spectacular's Venom was his voice. His voice was better in TAS. Other than that, I liked how Spectacular's Venom actually used the info he had on Spidey rather than just chasing him around and making vague threats without actually following up on them. I felt that made him more of a threat that way.

Yeah, this is the first vengeful Venom with a well-thought-out plan we've seen in pretty much any media (including comics for the most part).

 

[Arachnid]

I constantly talk about this show to my friend. So we are finally watching it. I think I've watched the show through twice. But he has never seen it. We are only 4 episodes in but so far he likes it!

 

[ItchyWebShooter]

I constantly talk about this show to my friend. So we are finally watching it. I think I've watched the show through twice. But he has never seen it. We are only 4 episodes in but so far he likes it!

If he doesn't like it, better have him checked. He's a rogue Ultron drone or something.

 

[PeterBenParker]

If he doesn't like it, hope he can at least respect or appreciate it.

Not every Spider-Man show is for everyone in the same way not every Spider-Man film is for everyone.

 

[ItchyWebShooter]

If he doesn't like it, hope he can at least respect or appreciate it.

Not every Spider-Man show is for everyone in the same way not every Spider-Man film is for everyone.

While is suppose this probably is true, I'd have a hard time wrapping my head around just what kind of whack-job nutcase psychopath didn't love this show.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

The more I think about it the more one simple thing sticks to my mind; not only is this a great Spider-Man series, this is the only good Spider-Man series.
Everything else is lesser, the 90s series is decent at best, even though it left a legacy of greatness behind, it's not that strong with continuity, body size consistency, Spider-Man is Kingpin's squeezy toy, every time he's with a guest star he needs help, Secret Wars excluded.
I can still enjoy them as shows, there is plenty to enjoy about them, but they don't really pop to mind as recommendable comic book series.

I love how in the first episode; 'Survival of the Fittest', Spider-Man is three months in, and he took down Marko and O'Hirn pre Sandman and Rhino multiple times even before this episode in his three months as Spider-Man, and then he took down Vulture and the Enforcers in one night, on his first try.
Compare that to the Ultimate cartoon where his first episode is "Hi, I've been Spider-Man for a year, J. Jonah Jameson has been nagging about me being a menace on a big screen non-stop, and I couldn't take down a regular guy with a glue gun before today, my fourth try against him."

Take notes with the new cartoon Marvel, take notes on how to make Spider-Man great again.

 

[ItchyWebShooter]

The more I think about it the more one simple thing sticks to my mind; not only is this a great Spider-Man series, this is the only good Spider-Man series.

This is a GREAT Spider-Man series. I would argue that TAS is overall good, but only great in a few episodes. It tends to be highly overrated online IMO due to rose-tinted nostalgia glasses. It definitely had some awful, awful parts as well.

 

[zeptron]

While is suppose this probably is true, I'd have a hard time wrapping my head around just what kind of whack-job nutcase psychopath didn't love this show.

The majority of the complaints Spectacular gets come from people that have never actually watched it and base their arguments mainly on the art style. They often label it "childish" and "kiddie" which is really not the right words to be using. It's usually hardcore and militant fans of TAS. And if somebody does happen to have a criticism that's not about the art style, they usually just try to compare things to TAS instead of judging the show on it's own merits.

I grew up with TAS. It introduced me to the majority of Spidey's world, but I just don't praise it to the point of blindly criticizing pretty much any other Spider-man show (especially when those other works have their own strengths). It's limiting to put a show up on a pedestal and expect all other shows in the same genre to imitate it rather than do their own thing.

 

[ItchyWebShooter]

The majority of the complaints Spectacular gets come from people that have never actually watched it and base their arguments mainly on the art style. They often label it "childish" and "kiddie" which is really not the right words to be using. It's usually hardcore and militant fans of TAS. And if somebody does happen to have a criticism that's not about the art style, they usually just try to compare things to TAS instead of judging the show on it's on merits.

I grew up with TAS. It introduced me to the majority of Spidey's world, but I just don't praise it to the point of blindly criticizing pretty much any other Spider-man show (especially when those other works have their own strengths). It's limiting to put a show up on a pedestal and expect all other shows in the same genre to imitate it rather than do their own thing.

Agreed on all points. TAS introduced me to Spider-Man in the 90s and I grew up with Lee/Ditko reprints, TAS, and the Raimi Trilogy. I can accept the strengths and weaknesses of each version of the mythos and I think it's safe to say TSSM even on a structural level is a much more well-made show than TAS.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

to both posts.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

Agreed on all points. TAS introduced me to Spider-Man in the 90s and I grew up with Lee/Ditko reprints, TAS, and the Raimi Trilogy. I can accept the strengths and weaknesses of each version of the mythos and I think it's safe to say TSSM even on a structural level is a much more well-made show than TAS.

I think the defining element for me with anything is when something supercedes the genre. It doesn't have to be totally innovative in that it makes a new set of rules, i.e. like how SM2 and then TDK changed the CB film landscape. Or if we're keeping in animation, we could easily use B:TAS. That show is not only a great show but it also set the bar for all animated shows to follow even if there isn't a consistent level of quality from one episode to the next.

TSSM is not innovative and not groundbreaking. It did however set a bar, imo, for anything Spider-Man media wise outside of the comics. It's often called the best iteration of the character and I think it deserves that moniker. Nonetheless, what makes TSSM so noteworthy besides that 'iteration title' is that it's simply a great show. It doesn't matter that it features Spider-Man as the main character--TSSM is such a wonderfully created story driven, character driven entity that it succeeds past the genre and even people that don't care much for CBs would be able to see and enjoy the quality of the show for what it is.

 

[ItchyWebShooter]

I think the defining element for me with anything is when something supercedes the genre. It doesn't have to be totally innovative in that it makes a new set of rules, i.e. like how SM2 and then TDK changed the CB film landscape. Or if we're keeping in animation, we could easily use B:TAS. That show is not only a great show but it also set the bar for all animated shows to follow even if there isn't a consistent level of quality from one episode to the next.

TSSM is not innovative and not groundbreaking. It did however set a bar, imo, for anything Spider-Man media wise outside of the comics. It's often called the best iteration of the character and I think it deserves that moniker. Nonetheless, what makes TSSM so noteworthy besides that 'iteration title' is that it's simply a great show. It doesn't matter that it features Spider-Man as the main character--TSSM is such a wonderfully created story driven, character driven entity that it succeeds past the genre and even people that don't care much for CBs would be able to see and enjoy the quality of the show for what it is.

So true and well spoken. Wish I could have articulated those points as well as you did. TSSM was gone too soon.

 

[Slick]

Well said. It still hurts to this day. It's like a wound that won't heal.

 

[Spider-Aziz]

I'm watching Alien right now, and one of the tracks sounds plenty like Venom's theme in this show.

 

[Sarcastic Fan]

Spectacular Radio ends 2016 by beginning our coverage of the second season of this epic series. Greg Weisman joins us to discuss bringing Mysterio into this world, Stan Lee’s cameo, and so much more.

http://www.spidey-dude.com/?p=4724

 

[ItchyWebShooter]

I absolutely have to listen to this podcast.

Mysterio was so good in this show.

 

[Mistah K88]

I've gotten into watching this show... AGAIN! And well...

The series had a back for setting things up early... like really early (granted the series takes place over 7 months...)

Ned was assigned to do a Spider-Man and Goblin exposé as early as season 1, followed up with the Spider-Man part in season 2, and probably would start poking his nose in places it doesn't belong when it comes to dealing with a Goblin in Season 3...

It's been several years but once again DAMN!

Also some things that seemingly have been wrapped up with a pretty bow was radiating. Spider-Man has managed to create a vacuum in organized crime twice... and I can only imagine the Gang War continuing...

Since I started reading old Spider-Man comics again, I am now in the realm of the first gang war introduced by Gerry Conway, and a woman named Myrna was standing by the side of Hammerhead in his office in Amazing Spider-Man 114, orange hair, just like his chauffeur in this show.
Greg and folks dug deep into early Spider-Man history working on this show

Someone finally found her! (I'm late I know) so apparently she was Hammerhead's "Moll". Makes sense.

Also to tell you the truth, I'm kind of glad that the show was restricted to only Spidey's corner of the Marvel Universe. With every superhero cartoon being some sort of team up nowadays, it's kind of refreshing...

 

[PeterBenParker]

I'll always miss this show.

 

[harryoscop]

Same

 

[ItchyWebShooter]

Show was the best.

Regarding Myrna, Greg has said that the crew agreed that they would create no original names because there was so much lore to draw from. I love that.

 

[UltimateWebhead]

I've gotten into watching this show... AGAIN! And well...

The series had a back for setting things up early... like really early (granted the series takes place over 7 months...)

Ned was assigned to do a Spider-Man and Goblin exposé as early as season 1, followed up with the Spider-Man part in season 2, and probably would start poking his nose in places it doesn't belong when it comes to dealing with a Goblin in Season 3...

It's been several years but once again DAMN!

Also some things that seemingly have been wrapped up with a pretty bow was radiating. Spider-Man has managed to create a vacuum in organized crime twice... and I can only imagine the Gang War continuing...

I remember Greg saying he had "BIG plans for Hobgoblin." It just plain sucks that we'll never get to see that come to fruition--I can only imagine how well he would have done with that material.

For sure the Gang War would have continued. I never thought it was ending but more of an ongoing thing...and it pains me even more to know things like this won't continue especially when you look and see that Greg is now working on season 3 of Young Justice.

Show was the best.

Regarding Myrna, Greg has said that the crew agreed that they would create no original names because there was so much lore to draw from. I love that.

Great indeed. They pulled characters from every corner--they even used Raimi's Bernard Houseman as Norman's butler t: