The Vladimir Putin Discussion Thread

[terry78]

Ah, how times have changed.

 

[Schlosser85]

It's hard to tell how much is Putin's real personal beliefs and how much is him pandering to his xenophobic homophobic Russian supremacist pseudo-Christian base.

 

[DarkSovereignty]

Lol at this thread. At first I thought it was ironic but then i saw that it was made six years ago.

 

[Kelly]

I say, let Crimea vote to leave the Ukraine, because most of the voting Russians are in that region....that will leave a predominantly European leaning voting population and Putin will loose his Russian loving/speaking Presidents in the Ukraine.

Let him screw himself with this one...

 

[Smashlilman]

I say, let Crimea vote to leave the Ukraine, because most of the voting Russians are in that region....that will leave a predominantly European leaning voting population and Putin will loose his Russian loving/speaking Presidents in the Ukraine.

Let him screw himself with this one...

Putin has strategically place Micro nations in the western part Georgia to keep the entire region in check. If something goes wrong, he can send troops to that area and control the western part of the country. Now if Crimea joins Russian, The Western half of the country could reject Russian influence and Putin would lose control over that portion of the country. In the future, that portion of the country most likely would still try to join the Europe Union and NATO would get a little bit closer.

Putin can have influence inside Ukraine's future government if it leaves Crimea intact but It's not enough to keep Ukraine from pulling away from Russia. If Putin takes Crimea, he's guaranteed to loose control of the rest of Ukraine. It's a lose lose situation for Putin.

 

[hippie_hunter]

I doubt Putin will allow Crimea to join Russia. South Ossetia and Abkhazia asked to join Russia following the Russian invasion of Georgia and they declined those requests.

 

[Bullseye1]

Ukraine is so split by some of the most corrupt bunch of politicians. There is no way the country would qualify for EU membership, at least not in the short to medium term. The most they can hope for is some Mickey Mouse economic pact to ensure Russian gas gets to the rest of Europe without disruption. With member states like Bulgaria and Romania having restrictions on their populace entering other EU member states I cannot see those countries being in favour of a huge population of Ukraine joining at all.

Putin hasn't lost Ukraine at all and Russia will have influence over them for the foreseeable future. They have much more in common with Russians than they do with Western Europe.

 

[BestGirl]

Lol at this thread. At first I thought it was ironic but then i saw that it was made six years ago.

You have to admit he is fascinating in a Bond villain kind of way.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

He looks like Dr Evil.

 

[Schlosser85]

You have to admit he is fascinating in a Bond villain kind of way.

He and Kim Jung-un are gonna have to have some comic book supervillain smackdown.

It is inevitable.

 

[BestGirl]

Lol, chubby, pampered little Kim Jong-Un doesn't stand a chance.

 

[Schlosser85]

That's what supervillain gadgets and colorful psychopathic henchmen are for.

 

[Godzilla2000]

Vladimir Putin = Adolf Hitler

 

[Bullseye1]

Vladimir Putin = Adolf Hitler

Read your history books....

 

[Schlosser85]

Vladimir Putin = Adolf Hitler

As usual, you don't know what you're talking about.

 

[Matt]

Vladimir Putin = Adolf Hitler

Not even close. For one thing, Putin actually knows what he is doing (which makes him much scarier).

 

[BestGirl]

Eh, I'm not sure he does. I still can't figure out what Putin's going to get out of this.

 

[Bullseye1]

You don't become leader of Russia by not knowing what your doing. He knows exactly what he is doing and what he hopes to achieve. The rest of us just haven't figured out yet.

He has shown both the US and EU are toothless and cannot be relied upon when signing deals. It will certainly make Poland and the Czech Republic think twice about missile defence systems being placed on their soil.

It will also make NATO think about their march eastwards, which was always stupid.

 

[Hobgoblin]

 

[Thundercrack85]

You don't become leader of Russia by not knowing what your doing. He knows exactly what he is doing and what he hopes to achieve. The rest of us just haven't figured out yet.

He has shown both the US and EU are toothless and cannot be relied upon when signing deals. It will certainly make Poland and the Czech Republic think twice about missile defence systems being placed on their soil.

It will also make NATO think about their march eastwards, which was always stupid.

You think far too highly of this man, and perhaps leaders in general.

Russia, not the United States violated the Budapest Memorandum. Russia is now illegally occupying a part of a sovereign state, and hosting a Ukrainian quisling, who is wanted in his own country, by his own party for crimes against the Ukrainian people.

Even if Putin's shenanigans get him Crimea, what does he really gain? Strategically speaking, Russia already controlled Crimea. All he's gained are a bunch of resentful Ukrainians and Tartars he has to suppress, or expel.

NATO doesn't need to march Eastwards anymore. The East will come to it (most of it already has).

If there was any doubts that Eastern Europe needed a defense from Russian aggression, Putin has erased them. His word is worthless. Nothing short of a military alliance with the major powers of Europe or the United States will stop Putin.

Anyone who thinks Putin has pulled off some coup here, would probably have thought Pearl Harbor was a good idea in 1941.

 

[Goshdarn Batman]

He should have kissed him on the stomach instead.

 

[Bullseye1]

You think far too highly of this man, and perhaps leaders in general.

Russia, not the United States violated the Budapest Memorandum. Russia is now illegally occupying a part of a sovereign state, and hosting a Ukrainian quisling, who is wanted in his own country, by his own party for crimes against the Ukrainian people.

Even if Putin's shenanigans get him Crimea, what does he really gain? Strategically speaking, Russia already controlled Crimea. All he's gained are a bunch of resentful Ukrainians and Tartars he has to suppress, or expel.

NATO doesn't need to march Eastwards anymore. The East will come to it (most of it already has).

If there was any doubts that Eastern Europe needed a defense from Russian aggression, Putin has erased them. His word is worthless. Nothing short of a military alliance with the major powers of Europe or the United States will stop Putin.

Anyone who thinks Putin has pulled off some coup here, would probably have thought Pearl Harbor was a good idea in 1941.

I don't think too highly of any leader I just don't under estimate them like some here. If you naively think that Russia has nothing to gain by controlling the region. If countries leaders and governments were not so self absorbed and feel the need to interfere in neighbouring countries the world would indeed be a better place.

Europe doesn't need a missile defense system against Russia. It is the US who are seeking to place those in Eastern Europe to negate Russia's perceived nuclear threat. I don't recall them using their nuclear missiles on any country.

Putin's word may be useless but so to are the American and EU leaders. Those torture bases are still open for business.

 

[Hobgoblin]

Who knew that giving a lady (albeit the First Lady of a country) a coat on a chilly night would cause such a fuss?

http://www.cnn.com/2014/11/11/world/asia/putin-liyuan-shawl-apec/index.html?hpt=hp_t1

It was a fleeting moment, but one that Chinese censors were quick to snuff out.

At an APEC event to watch the fireworks in Beijing on Monday night, Russian President Vladimir Putin created a few of his own by slipping a shawl over the shoulders of Peng Liyuan, wife of Chinese President Xi Jinping.

A smiling Peng Liyuan kindly accepted the offer, but seconds later deftly slipped the shawl off into the hands of a waiting aide.

The small act of chivalry, quickly but politely rebuffed, unfolded live on state television, with voiceover from a CCTV anchor stating simply: "President Putin has placed a coat on Peng Liyuan."

A hashtag based on the same words quickly gained momentum on social media where the video was posted and reposted, according to Foreign Policy. However, by morning, there was little trace of it left.

Searches for the video and hashtag on China's twitter-like Weibo and messaging service WeChat turned up a smattering of comments and broken links, leaving users to surmise that China's Internet police had deemed the material too potentially damaging to share.

Some remained though, including this link to the photo with the loosely translated comment: "China's first lady's boundless charm wins over Mr. Putin."

I wonder if this is Putin's "massaging Angela Merkel's shoulders" moment.

 

[JJJ's Ulcer]

It really is crap this thread is titled Vladimir Putin RULES! from back when we were more focused on shirtless Putin memes than the geopolitical menace he's becoming. Any chance a mod can change the title to something more appropriate, like 'Discussion about Vladimir Putin'? I used to like making jokes about him too, but since the anti-gay laws, the Ukraine invasion and the plane shootdown, I find nothing funny about him anymore.

 

[craigdbfan]

I saw that the thread was bumped in my thread list and I literally thought the exact same thing JJJ. Consider it done.