The "we're sorry, Brett" thread...

[YJ1]

All you idiots who doubted Ratner and have been bashing him from the start should admit your mistake, quit compounding it (and farther embarrassing yourself) by continuing to try to knock a superior film, and just simply apologize to the man. Step up, face reality and do what's right. Go to your nearest Hallmark shop and purchase and apology card and mail it to Fox studios on Tuesday morning.

Attention losers: No mail on Monday but get those cards out early on Tuesday.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

Attention losers: No mail on Monday but get those cards out early on Tuesday.

But he did not make a good film which is still at 50% approval on RT. So no apologies necessary

 

[greggumz]

okay, there was alot of bashing thrown at Mr. Ratner ever since he was announced, not only from us posters here, but from major internet and other media sources, too... i think given the movie he gave us has been getting mostly positive reviews, save for a few stubborn people and critics who simply won't admit they were wrong to judge him so badly.

so, if you feel like being a bigger person, and apologizing for giving the guy such a hard time, here's the place to do it.

i don't expect alot of you to post your sorry's in here, and i think even though Ratner turned in a movie better than X1 and X2, alot of you just won't admit it for whatever reason, but, we'll see what happens

(for the record, i never had no strong feeling one way or the other about his appointment to the film, so i owe no such apology)

Well instead of telling you how wrong i think you are (not the point of the thread that you started)

I'm going to agree with you, because I do =)

I was scared he was gonna screw it up, but I think he did just fine with it, not too much action to overshadow the story.

People say that they put too much stuff into one movie. Well HELLO what do you expect, X-3, the story of, Xavier, and only focus on one charcater? Sorry its not the comic books they are trying to fit as many characters into the movie as they can. I agree it felt a little rushed, but do I think it ruined the whole movie for me? Hell no the movie was awsome I can't wait untill it comes to DVD.

I think it was great, and it won't be the last.

 

[greggumz]

But he did not make a good film which is still at 50% approval on RT. So no apologies necessary

Who are you the Rotten Tomatoe follower? Just because movie critics don't all agree you think you must follow them? Besides the reason most of them gave it bad reviews is because they say "It dosn't live up to Singer" You know what I have to say to them and you. Get off of his ball sack already, he left to do Superman, get over it.

 

[dayshawn1974]

Mr Ratner, by some chance if you're not busy tonight and patrolling the message boards just to get an idea of what people think, please light yourself up the best cigar you have in the house, and if you don't smoke pour yourself your favorite drink. Sit back, relax, and smile. Rotten Tomatoes ratings means nothing. AICN's Harry means nothing. You've delivered a movie that the vast majority of the people who saw it were entertained with. That was your job all along. Some will point out in long posts that drag on for pages how you should have done this and that differently, how you're talentless, a bad choice for the director job from the start, and that Bryan Singer walks on water.

But this absolutely massive opening weekend that firmly places your installment in the Lord of the Rings, Star Wars money range for opening weekends erases all arguments. Rest assured if Bryan had directed this sequel a ton of people who have blasted him to because no director who directs any movie goes unblasted.

Know that Star Wars the Phantom Menace did a ton more money than the Attack of the Clones did, so all talk that if the previous movies are good people will automatically flock back to the next film. Children loved the Phantom Menace but not its sequel. Most enjoyed Revenge of the Sith because it was well made for the most part. My point is this.

Your Xmen movie is doing well because its a pretty good movie to most people over all. All the excuses to the contrary hold little to no weight. Again, most people do like Xmen 3. So let the haters hate. Let them write page after page on why you ruined their life and blah blah blah because you suceeded despite everything your detractors said. The numbers don't lie, lol.

Your movie wasn't perfect by any means. I bet you're shocked to hear that no other movies are either. So here's a toast to you Brett. Enjoy yourself cause you deserve it. You will have directed the most successful Xmen film to date by the only critics that matter. The fans that go see it. Most felt they had a good time and that's your only job at the end of the day.

Oh, and don't forget to say a prayer for your buddy Bryan. If Superman Returns does not beat Xmen's opening and WW total he'll never hear the end of it, lol.

 

[greggumz]

Funny. I never doubted Brett Ratner once. I had my worries, like anyone should, but I hoped he would turn out an astonishing film.

Turns out I was horribly, horribly WRONG.

Do you guys only care about action? This film is falling apart at the seams! It introduces WAY too many characters, only to have them to nothing and get lost behind Halle and Hugh. And the character development, the emotion that made X1 and X2 not only good comic book films, but also good drama films, where was that?

you know what I find funny? The fact that you and other people assume that the Director of a movie automatically writes the movie and its screen play.

Big suprise of the day, the movie was written by Zak Penn and Simon Kinberg! Ready for your second suprise, Zak Penn actually wrote the script for X2, OMG, so saying that Brett butchered the story, is totally wrong, get your facts straight.

 

[greggumz]

Mr Ratner, by some chance if you're not busy tonight and patrolling the message boards just to get an idea of what people think, please light yourself up the best cigar you have in the house, and if you don't smoke pour yourself your favorite drink. Sit back, relax, and smile. Rotten Tomatoes ratings means nothing. AICN's Harry means nothing. You've delivered a movie that the vast majority of the people who saw it were entertained with. That was your job all along. Some will point out in long posts that drag on for pages how you should have done this and that differently, how you're talentless, a bad choice for the director job from the start, and that Bryan Singer walks on water.

But this absolutely massive opening weekend that firmly places your installment in the Lord of the Rings, Star Wars money range for opening weekends erases all arguments. Rest assured if Bryan had directed this sequel a ton of people who have blasted him to because no director who directs any movie goes unblasted.

Know that Star Wars the Phantom Menace did a ton more money than the Attack of the Clones did, so all talk that if the previous movies are good people will automatically flock back to the next film. Children loved the Phantom Menace but not its sequel. Most enjoyed Revenge of the Sith because it was well made for the most part. My point is this.

Your Xmen movie is doing well because its a pretty good movie to most people over all. All the excuses to the contrary hold little to no weight. Again, most people do like Xmen 3. So let the haters hate. Let them write page after page on why you ruined their life and blah blah blah because you suceeded despite everything your detractors said. The numbers don't lie, lol.

Your movie wasn't perfect by any means. I bet you're shocked to hear that no other movies are either. So here's a toast to you Brett. Enjoy yourself cause you deserve it. You will have directed the most successful Xmen film to date by the only critics that matter. The fans that go see it. Most felt they had a good time and that's your only job at the end of the day.

Oh, and don't forget to say a prayer for your buddy Bryan. If Superman Returns does not beat Xmen's opening and WW total he'll never hear the end of it, lol.

/clap

I love everything you said, it was on the tip of my tounge but couldn't say it as perfect as you. I agree totally.

 

[Flexo]

you know what I find funny? The fact that you and other people assume that the Director of a movie automatically writes the movie and its screen play.

Big suprise of the day, the movie was written by Zak Penn and Simon Kinberg! Ready for your second suprise, Zak Penn actually wrote the script for X2, OMG, so saying that Brett butchered the story, is totally wrong, get your facts straight.

Oh thank the lord! Someone with sense.

 

[Sony23]

Sorry to Brett Ratner!? Shouldn't he be saying sorry to US!?

**** Brett Ratner

 

[LEX]

Mr Ratner, by some chance if you're not busy tonight and patrolling the message boards just to get an idea of what people think, please light yourself up the best cigar you have in the house, and if you don't smoke pour yourself your favorite drink. Sit back, relax, and smile. Rotten Tomatoes ratings means nothing. AICN's Harry means nothing. You've delivered a movie that the vast majority of the people who saw it were entertained with. That was your job all along. Some will point out in long posts that drag on for pages how you should have done this and that differently, how you're talentless, a bad choice for the director job from the start, and that Bryan Singer walks on water.

But this absolutely massive opening weekend that firmly places your installment in the Lord of the Rings, Star Wars money range for opening weekends erases all arguments. Rest assured if Bryan had directed this sequel a ton of people who have blasted him to because no director who directs any movie goes unblasted.

Know that Star Wars the Phantom Menace did a ton more money than the Attack of the Clones did, so all talk that if the previous movies are good people will automatically flock back to the next film. Children loved the Phantom Menace but not its sequel. Most enjoyed Revenge of the Sith because it was well made for the most part. My point is this.

Your Xmen movie is doing well because its a pretty good movie to most people over all. All the excuses to the contrary hold little to no weight. Again, most people do like Xmen 3. So let the haters hate. Let them write page after page on why you ruined their life and blah blah blah because you suceeded despite everything your detractors said. The numbers don't lie, lol.

Your movie wasn't perfect by any means. I bet you're shocked to hear that no other movies are either. So here's a toast to you Brett. Enjoy yourself cause you deserve it. You will have directed the most successful Xmen film to date by the only critics that matter. The fans that go see it. Most felt they had a good time and that's your only job at the end of the day.

Oh, and don't forget to say a prayer for your buddy Bryan. If Superman Returns does not beat Xmen's opening and WW total he'll never hear the end of it, lol.

you know what I find funny? The fact that you and other people assume that the Director of a movie automatically writes the movie and its screen play.

Big suprise of the day, the movie was written by Zak Penn and Simon Kinberg! Ready for your second suprise, Zak Penn actually wrote the script for X2, OMG, so saying that Brett butchered the story, is totally wrong, get your facts straight.

Great posts, you two. I agree with you absolutely.

 

[BMM]

you know what I find funny? The fact that you and other people assume that the Director of a movie automatically writes the movie and its screen play.

Big suprise of the day, the movie was written by Zak Penn and Simon Kinberg! Ready for your second suprise, Zak Penn actually wrote the script for X2, OMG, so saying that Brett butchered the story, is totally wrong, get your facts straight.

Actually, if you want to get your facts straight, Penn aided in the development of a story for X2, whereas Dougherty and Harris wrote the screenplay or script.

. . . although I essentially agree with the first part of your post.

 

[Sunstar]

After hearing the interviews with Ratner I had faith in him making the best film out of the three and I was one of the few people who had confidence in him! If anything, I think Ratner owes me an apology b/c I supported him and he still made a disappointing film!

 

[Sony23]

Actually, if you want to get your facts straight, Penn aided in the development of a story for X2, whereas Dougherty and Harris wrote the screenplay or script.

Don't forget David Hayter!

 

[XCharlieX]

But he did not make a good film which is still at 50% approval on RT. So no apologies necessary

This is VERY true. One doesnt even need to see the film to realize something was sabotaged. I cant emphasize this enough... this flick may be even GOOD! But this crew is downright wreckless. They lost HALF of the support for this film through misuse of the fast pacing. Its a constant in almost every single negative AND positive review which leads to poor character development. Hell tons of reviews even say the flick wouldve been perfect if they just shot the film with a tranquilizer dart! Slow the pacing down = a 60-70% there. Add more character scenes on TOP of that is even better = 70% to 80% of approval.

They made their decision and now imo they should bask in their 53% now.

 

[ShadowBoxing]

This is VERY true. One doesnt even need to see the film to realize something was sabotaged. I cant emphasize this enough... this flick may be even GOOD! But this crew is downright wreckless. They lost HALF of the support for this film through misuse of the fast pacing. Its a constant in almost every single negative AND positive review which leads to poor character development. Hell tons of reviews even say the flick wouldve been perfect if they just shot the film with a tranquilizer dart! Slow the pacing down = a 60-70% there. Add more character scenes on TOP of that is even better = 70% to 80% of approval.

They made their decision and now imo they should bask in their 53% now.

Right. I would have enjoyed the movie had it been a little slower with more character development, maybe even then Cyclops would not have urked me much. Most of my friend hated this film, in fact almost all of them did. People who say most people liked this film don't talk to most people. Making 100 mil in a weekend doesn't make you a good film it makes you a good advertiser. Independence Day, Armageddon, The Lost World kinda all suck to be honest, but they made a lot of money. Same with the first two Star Wars prequals and people don't exactly rave about them. Truth is, after 7 pages of horrid reviews on IMDb and 53% of RT and 50% of accreditted critics panning this, most hardcore comic geeks and fans of the comic horrified with character treatment, I owe no one an apology. Certainly not for treating the Phoenix Saga this way. Ratner may have done the best he could with a downright lousy script, maybe he had little or no input at all, I don't care. The characters moved from place to place without knowing how, things were not explained or build up they just blurted out explosition, scenes had no transition, it felt about as long and as deep as the trailer (which was slightly more engaging since half the good lines in it never made the final cut). I don't owe anyone an apology for watching the greatest story ever told in comics butchered into a story about a slightly off Magneto lackey who goes off the handle in the last 30 seconds. I read every issue of Phoenix Saga. From issue 101 to issue 137. The story was painstaking crafted. We saw Jean gradually, gradually get more powerful, we saw her world collaspe and we saw things slowly turn from disconcerning to bad to worse. That was the Phoenix Saga. It was drama, it was hope, relationships, a whirlwind epic tale of love and betrayal that defined comics for a generation of readers. I watched on screen as a tale so grand so epic was reduced to a Wolverine and Storm ego stroker with chulky dialogue and a pace faster than quicksilver. For that I owe him nothing.

 

[Rac]

I'm sorry Brett Ratner that I'm not sorry for bashing you.

 

[Cyclops]

you know what I find funny? The fact that you and other people assume that the Director of a movie automatically writes the movie and its screen play.

Big suprise of the day, the movie was written by Zak Penn and Simon Kinberg! Ready for your second suprise, Zak Penn actually wrote the script for X2, OMG, so saying that Brett butchered the story, is totally wrong, get your facts straight.

Let's compare a movie to a ship, shall we?

The movie is the ship. The writers are the designers. The cast and crew are the crew. The audience are the passengers.

That makes the director the ship's captain. When something goes wrong with the ship, responsibility falls to the captain. Therefore, when something goes wrong with the movie, the responsibility falls to the director.

Everybody blames Joel Schumacher for the travesty that is Batman & Robin, with a particular point being made to rail on him for nippled costumes. But he didn't design them. Yet he is still at fault for them because it was his movie.

 

[conan69]

"Everybody blames Joel Schumacher for the travesty that is Batman & Robin, with a particular point being made to rail on him for nippled costumes. But he didn't design them. Yet he is still at fault for them because it was his movie."

He should be blamed he had ALOT of input into what was put on film. A guy who says something like "Hes had enough of the gloom - batmans life isnt so bad, hes rich and get all the women" should not be allowed to direct a Batman film

BTW in your ship scenario you forgot about the owner of the company that builds the ship and when he says it has to be built by such and such a date to beat out that other ship building company and in doing so compromises the architecture of the ship being built.

 

[SsM]

This sure isnt turning out to be a we're sorry thread :x

 

[ShadowBoxing]

"Everybody blames Joel Schumacher for the travesty that is Batman & Robin, with a particular point being made to rail on him for nippled costumes. But he didn't design them. Yet he is still at fault for them because it was his movie."

He should be blamed he had ALOT of input into what was put on film. A guy who says something like "Hes had enough of the gloom - batmans life isnt so bad, hes rich and get all the women" should not be allowed to direct a Batman film

BTW in your ship scenario you forgot about the owner of the company that builds the ship and when he says it has to be built by such and such a date to beat out that other ship building company and in doing so compromises the architecture of the ship being built.

Rothman putting all those "speed holes" in the ship before handing it to Ratner did not exactly help his chances much

 

[Cyclops]

That sounds like a very specific add-on to a very general analogy.

When a ship goes down, nobody stops to think "Gee, I wonder if the owner of the shipyard rushed this ship into production and glub glub glub I'm drowning..."

Still my analogy stands. All faults with a movie fall directly onto the director's lap because he is the one in charge. He's the one channeling the movie, he's the visible face of the movie.

Kinda like how everything wrong with America is George Bush's fault. More accurately, it's a long, interwoven, tangled mess involving thousands of people and a national mindset, but since George is the President, he gets the blame.

 

[XCharlieX]

I may even thumbs UP this film , and yet i would not shake Brett Ratners hand Because whatever good comes of such heavy sabotage is called luck.

 

[Demon Within]

Im sorry Brett for having watched this movie and possibly furthering your ****ty career. I really wish I hadnt but like they say hindsight is always 20/20.

 

[blind_fury]

I wish all the Singer loyalist would take an exodus to the Superman Returns forums and leave us alone here to celebrate the success of X3.

 

[Demon Within]

Hate to sound negative but this is one of the most useless threads on here.

Strikez! will close it or move it like he has the other 40 threads. X3 forum is becoming just a lot of links to other forums.