The Witcher 3

[James]

In which case, how is that not the average Joe consumer's fault? If you don't take care to understand a $60 purchase, what are you doing? This hasn't been hidden. In fact, they have gone out of their way to make this fact known. Are consumers not suppose to take any responsibility for their purchase?

Also, this seems like a really false argument. Mainly do to the fact that if you aren't following this project closely, how would you notice the difference? If you aren't following this from the start, you wouldn't know the difference. So your entire argument is pointless. The only way to know the difference, is to have actually paid enough attention from the start. They have also advertised using PS4 and Xbox One footage on television and the PS YT page.

No, I don't see it as average Joe's fault in the least, but that should be obvious from my previous two posts.

How could you possibly know what people will and won't notice? Just assuming no one will notice the drop in quality from what's advertised to the final product isn't enough to write my argument off -because that's all it is, your assumption.

To make my point completely on-the-nose so there's no further misunderstanding: When Thundercrack said a lot people will assume that what they see is what the console games will look like, you responded by calling those people idiots -they are not idiots.

I'd continue, but I'll end up repeating myself again. Evidently you seem to think my argument is pointless to begin with anyway, so carrying on would be...pointless.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

You're assuming everyone is as informed as you are.

I know plenty of people who are casual gamers who have never played Witcher and just assume that the ad about a PS4 (and PC) game shows PS4 footage.

And here is the point. If they are that causal, how are they going to tell the difference in the footage? If they are so causal to not understand that simple fact, how will they tell the difference? How will they even remember what the older footage looks like?

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I do think they need to start showing these things with a disclaimer.

I don't think Witcher 3 was blatantly false advertising like Ubisoft, but a lot of people assume that what they're seeing will what the console games look like.

They should probably know better. The times I've seen gameplay, there's been disclosure about it being on PC in some way, depending on where I watched it. There have been disclaimers when there was "PS4" gameplay footage, too, and Microsoft got put to the fire when they showcased PC footage with an Xbox logo on screen.

Is that a shot?

But no seriously. In ads, they use the PC footage without any disclaimer.

Personally, after Watch Dogs I just assume every screenshot is from a 12,000 dollar PC.

I don't that needed. Most people know that PC always looks better.

 

[Thundercrack85]

And here is the point. If they are that causal, how are they going to tell the difference in the footage? If they are so causal to not understand that simple fact, how will they tell the difference? How will they even remember what the older footage looks like?

Well now that's simple. People buy it because of the advertising (trailers, screen shots, ads, etc). If it looks significantly different, they're going to notice, because that's how it came to their attention.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

No, I don't see it as average Joe's fault in the least, but that should be obvious from my previous two posts.

That is because you are avoiding the clear and present fact that we live in 2015. It is not a hard thing to learn. If you spend $60 blindly, that is on you.

How could you possibly know what people will and won't notice? Just assuming no one will notice the drop in quality from what's advertised to the final product isn't enough to write my argument off -because that's all it is, your assumption.

You do realize that on a proper HD television, the game will look as good if not better as the trailers, just do to the compression of YT right? Again, this is a completely different situation then Watch Dogs.

The gameplay they have released from the console versions match the trailers rather well. If you have actually kept up, you'd know this.

To make my point completely on-the-nose so there's no further misunderstanding: When Thundercrack said a lot people will assume that what they see is what the console games will look like, you responded by calling those people idiots -they are not idiots.

Thy are if they don't understand what it means at this point. It is bizarre to suggest that someone capable of watching the trailer cannot look this up. Do people really just watch trailers and buy games based on them?

I'd continue, but I'll end up repeating myself again. Evidently you seem to think my argument is pointless to begin with anyway, so carrying on would be...pointless.

Well, this is what happens when your argument doesn't make sense.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

Well now that's simple. People buy it because of the advertising (trailers, screen shots, ads, etc). If it looks significantly different, they're going to notice, because that's how it came to their attention.

Which trailers? They have all looked different. This has been a matter of debate over at the CDPR forums for over a year. The TV spot they are running is a CGI short film.

They should probably know better. The times I've seen gameplay, there's been disclosure about it being on PC in some way, depending on where I watched it. There have been disclaimers when there was "PS4" gameplay footage, too, and Microsoft got put to the fire when they showcased PC footage with an Xbox logo on screen.



I don't that needed. Most people know that PC always looks better.

Don't try to bring sense into this. It is CDPR people can't hear or read, but want to buy a game.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

I know what you're talking about. What I'm saying is, your average Joe consumer has no idea about what the developers have said or even that there's any sort of difference between PC and console. It's absolutely not clear to people when they see an ad on TV and at the end there's the PC logo, along with PS4 and Xbox. To suggest people are idiots for assuming the product they purchase is the product they saw advertised, is wrong. They're not idiots, they were purposefully mislead and have every right to be upset about it. The fact they didn't follow every press release and tidbit of information, or have the gall to expect what they pay for to look like the thing they saw advertised isn't in anyway idiotic.

I don't think it's as hard to find out as you're claiming, though. Minimal amount of digging would net answers, in this case. And this is the era of people who almost all have handheld computers in their pockets.

And, unless The Witcher 3 winds up looking like an Xbox 360 game on my PS4...then how would the average joe even notice the discrepancy? Seeing some grays around a fire doesn't sound like something, except a graphics nutcase, to spot and compare between this tv ad he only just saw and the game he winds on console.

Unless the game winds up looking like a last gen game, I don't see how it winds up as "false advertising". The discrepancy would have be pretty huge.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Well now that's simple. People buy it because of the advertising (trailers, screen shots, ads, etc). If it looks significantly different, they're going to notice, because that's how it came to their attention.

Well, exactly. Significantly different.

Is that what's going on with Witcher 3, though? The difference hasn't seemed significant in what I've.

 

[James]

Okay Darth, whatever you say man.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I don't think it's as hard to find out as you're claiming, though. Minimal amount of digging would net answers, in this case. And this is the era of people who almost all have handheld computers in their pockets.

And, unless The Witcher 3 winds up looking like an Xbox 360 game on my PS4...then how would the average joe even notice the discrepancy? Seeing some grays around a fire doesn't sound like something, except a graphics nutcase, to spot and compare between this tv ad he only just saw and the game he winds on console.

Unless the game winds up looking like a last gen game, I don't see how it winds up as "false advertising". The discrepancy would have be pretty huge.

Exactly. The consumers aren't vegetables.

Well, exactly. Significantly different.

Is that what's going on with Witcher 3, though? The difference hasn't seemed significant in what I've.

Another point those making this argument are clearly ignoring. Is there a difference? Yep. It still looks fantastic, on par with the medium specs of the PC version and thus the trailers.

 

[Thundercrack85]

Well, exactly. Significantly different.

Is that what's going on with Witcher 3, though? The difference hasn't seemed significant in what I've.

I guess we'll find out, since I have yet to see PS4 footage.

 

[DarthSkywalker]

I guess we'll find out, since I have yet to see PS4 footage.

Are you just not looking for it?

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Looks fantastic.

 

[ChrisBaleBatman]

Guys, I'm all for protecting the consumer. Believe me, I'm one of them.

Maybe this is the wrong game to make this claim with, because I feel like they've been upfront with where the footage has been coming from. Most people should know this is a PC only game, and should know that the PC versions of games look better. I wouldn't say everyone has the information at the tip of their fingerprints, but I would say everyone who cares so much about the difference does.

The would have to look last-gen for this to be problem here, I think. And the PS4 footage looks amazing. There are people who've seen the early leaked copies on Xbox One that claim it looks amazing, with the only difference just being the resolution.

 

[Marvolo]

The only consumers, who see PC max setting graphics and expect consoles to look as good that get my sympathies, are brand new gamers or older people who are just dabbling in games occasionally who don't know how to use Google. They legitimately may not know better. But everyone else has no excuse. We have Google and most libraries have computers and every modern cell phone with data access can access google so if a consumer has a problem with graphical discrepancies they can inform themselves about why these discrepancies exist.

Trailer footage, and demo footage shown at game shows and during development are almost always an optimistic version of how the devs would like the game to look and/or how it can look on a powerful system. It's a benchmark, but not every pc and/or console will hit that mark. Seasoned gamers should realize this by now, and if they don't and are curious they can inform themselves so I don't really think a disclaimer is necessary.

A consumer should take some responsibility and research what they are spending their money on. If studios were actively redacting and hiding info and paying Google to remove all proof of discrepancies and the info explaining why these discrepancies exist then consumers would have my sympathies, but the info and explanation is out there.

 

[Benstamania]

Average Joe isn't buying the Witcher. D it's not being marketed toward them. Also every video they released either on the video or in the description has said "PC footage."

CDPR isn't Ubisoft.

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

i'm not sure what everyone is arguing about here, but i'd say a game like witcher would appeal to a similar group of gamers as those who play skyrim, which sold 20 million copies by 2 years after its release.

 

[ProjectPat2280]

i'm not sure what everyone is arguing about here, but i'd say a game like witcher would appeal to a similar group of gamers as those who play skyrim, which sold 20 million copies by 2 years after its release.

To an extent. The Witcher "loses" those fans due to its more unforgiving nature.

It will be interesting to see how this one does, considering it'll be a bit more user friendly and features the open world.

One week!

 

[zenith16]

PlayStation 4, Xbox One, PC
The Witcher 3 pre-orders top one million
Published 24 mins ago. 6 comments.

Action RPG sequel launches next week.

The Witcher 3: Wild Hunt has exceeded one million pre-orders worldwide, CD Projekt RED announced.
“We’ve crossed the one million pre-order milestone and it’s all thanks to you guys! We would like to thank all the gamers for their trust and support,” said CD Projekt RED co-founder Marcin Iwiński in a press release. “This is the last stretch and we’re pushing hard — over the last two weeks, we’ve increased performance on all platforms and started working full speed on the expansions, Hearts of Stone & Blood and Wine,” concludes Iwiński.
The game is due out for PlayStation 3, Xbox One, and PC on May 19.

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source:Gematsu

 

[XtremelyBaneful]

so, they already sold a million copies.

 

[LordofhouseEl]

Can't wait for this game, my most anticipated of the year. It looks amazing and I can't wait to explore it, the witcher 2 was the only RPG I ever completed all the side quests as well as the main this world is so engrossing.

 

[Destructus86]

Having seen both the PS4 gameplay and the PC gameplay.....I really don't see what the big deal is. There's a bit of a difference but nothing to warrant complaints. (or spending hundreds to upgrade a pc to play a game with only a tiny bit of a difference)

 

[OutOfBoose]

I'm sure Kojima will bury everyone with MGSVTPP, but Witcher 3 is gonna be stellar still.
1. MGSVTPP
2. Arkham Knight
3. Witcher 3

I think, they will sell 5-6 million copies of the game. And it will be like double amount of copies sold of Witcher 2.

 

[TheDarkKnight_NL]

Up for pre-download on Gog.com

Download is going very slowly atm, seems like veryone is going for it

 

[TheVileOne]

Just by comparison, Witcher 2 only sold about 820K copies for Xbox 360 and 890K for Windows PC.

 

[Havok83]

Up for pre-download on Gog.com

Download is going very slowly atm, seems like veryone is going for it

how are you doing it? Its telling me its available for download in 7 days