The Wrestling Thread Ended Itself Early Because of a Dislocated Finger. - - Part 112

[NDX]

I had forgotten he was still with WWE.

Sure Teddy J, it's YOUR decision not to re-sign. Right, right.

 

[Dr. Evil]

The following photo is of the mask Edmonton Oilers goalie Jason Labarbera will wear this season:

 

[Dr. Evil]

I'm seeing these rumors online that Viacom wants to buy a majority stake in TNA.I don't see much official,but I think it could be helpful financially if they did.

Only if they sign guys that benefit TNA on the long term. Don't sign a certain former WWE Superstar who is in Guardians of the Galaxy or another one who just left and fronts a rock band and I think that they will be fine.

 

[Trainwreck2100]

Only if they sign guys that benefit TNA on the long term. Don't sign a certain former WWE Superstar who is in Guardians of the Galaxy or another one who just left and fronts a rock band and I think that they will be fine.

what's wrong with Chris Jericho?

 

[Hunter Rider]

It's one of the times his overselling made total sense and worked with the move instead of looking like total ********. Plus he just flipped over instead of pushing himself up. If he did that with the Stunner, it would have looked better.

The push off with the hands is what I hate about Rock's selling of the stunner, because it goes from spectacular to goofy and breaks the illusion.

My favorite WM match of all time.

I think Bobby Heenan's call to HBK says it all regarding that match.

Well, Jamie Noble has been in the corner of a lot of the indy guys that have recently been brought into this company so maybe HE and X-pac could convince HHH and Vince to not butcher him. Not to mention, I'm sure that Daniel Bryan and CM Punk might be willing to put in a good word for him as well.

Punk would probably be his best bet as while I know they aren't buddies I imagine Punk respects his talent, and who knows Bryan may even have enough of a voice these days to help him.

Also Hunter, what do you think of what I had to say in this post:
I'm not going to say I could run a wrestling company with ease but if I had ANY stroke regarding the people pushed and even the people hired, this would be some things I'd push for:


If you have any alternatives please feel free to counterpoint....I like keeping you in these discussions

I actually think letting Hogan and Sting go would be neccisary to sign all the people you want to strengthen the various divisions, both are a huge cash drain and offer very little to the product these days.

Those additions would certainly help give TNA depth, although I think Bully Ray still has a part to play in the main event as he's such a great heel, and if Okada came to TNA he'd have to be in the World title scene, although in truth I can't see him leaving Japan unless it's for WWE.

I definitely agree on letting the stable wars rest for a bit, TNA have over-saturated their booking with that formula.

I definitely agree AJ stands out from those guys. AJ has "It" in spades. I'm just not sold that WWE does or would see that.

There's always that risk, Triple H could think he can turn Sami Zayn or Tyson Kidd into WWE's AJ Styles, but I'd like to think he isn't as stuck in that mentality as Vince.

Yes AJ does work much smarter and knows how to tell a story, and when to break out the big spots. His style definitely would fit WWE moreso than a few years ago. Perhaps that would not ban his big spot moves, but I can see them cutting short the amount of ring time he's allowed to work. AJ can make a five minute match good, but it would rob him of his ability to steal the show.

I think it would be a process, perhaps starting with 5 minute matches where he's all offense and wowing the crowd, then this leads to him getting longer match time like it has for Bryan.

IMO, the one he needs the biggest push from is HHH. Of course the buck stops with Vince, but HHH is the one continually gaining power and influence in the product. Hell, look at the last two breakout stars Bryan and Punk. As soon as they gained serious momentum and had the fans buzzing at their loudest, he got involved and their pushes and character development took a hit. You cannot tell me that is by coincidence. Their pushes were/are clearly done with some spite.

In the case of Punk I agree, at first I was willing to give Triple H the benefit of the doubt but in the end he did nothing for Punk and slowed his momentum. In the case of Bryan I'll hold judgment as to me the set up gives Bryan two major heels to go over, we'll see if that is how it plays out though.

I believe with the right marketing and build up, AJ's debut in WWE would draw a massive pop. I have no doubt the fans would get behind him even with no build, but WWE would be wise to push him strong right out of the gates. We know AJ can hold up his end of the bargain. His signing would definitely get the internet buzzing. Might as well try to carry that over to your general audience.

Agreed. Triple H seems to be a fan of the old vignette approach as they have used that on all recent debuts bar The Shield. I think AJ will get a big pop regardless but if WWE put together a series of vignettes of AJ that show him training and have him talking about taking the leap to the big stage, I think fans will be intrigued as well as excited, basically simple but accentuating the athletic side of being a sports entertainer and the grand stage aspect.

Sure Teddy J, it's YOUR decision not to re-sign. Right, right.

Heath Slater ended up ding better than Teddy.

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

what's wrong with Chris Jericho?

He's not a viable long term solution, especially given TNA's situation.

 

[Hunter Rider]

Punk and Kofi visiting the Breaking Bad house.

The following photo is of the mask Edmonton Oilers goalie Jason Labarbera will wear this season:

I think Punk will dig this as he's a big Hockey guy.

 

[Dr. Evil]

He's not a viable long term solution, especially given TNA's situation.

This. I like Jericho, but he's older plus he's a WWE guy through and through.

However, if Viacom buys TNA, they will become short sighted and try to sign Jericho.

 

[Pink Ranger]

I think Jericho will be of great benefit to TNA. I know his best years are behind him, but he can work great matches against the genuine talents of TNA (Aries, Roode, Styles, Joe) and be a good locker-room leader. He can help make the younger guys better in and out of the ring; aside from Sting, I don't see those qualities in any of the other veterans on the TNA roster.

 

[NDX]

I don't see Jericho being enough to bring in the fanbase TNA really needs. He'll get a small boost, but TNA is still TNA so most fans will just go back to ignoring it waiting for Jericho to make his eventual return to WWE.

 

[Pink Ranger]

A single personality cannot bring TNA that much of a wider fanbase. If TNA signed John Cena tomorrow, they still would not be legitimate competition for the WWE. WWE's strengths over TNA extend way beyond the product we see on TV: it extends into international distribution ability, US geographical coverage (house shows and TV tapings), logistics, venue bookings, marketing, merchandising, you name it. Those capabilities have taken the WWE decades to build up, and talent signings aren't going to bring those qualities to TNA.

What TNA needs is to establish itself as an alternative to the WWE first, and I do not believe they are there yet. A good veteran signing like Jericho (which I concede will never happen) will help bring consistency at least. Impact needs to become "watchable on a weekly basis" quality before it can be considered a valid WWE alternative.

 

[sweetre15]

A single personality cannot bring TNA that much of a wider fanbase. If TNA signed John Cena tomorrow, they still would not be legitimate competition for the WWE. WWE's strengths over TNA extend way beyond the product we see on TV: it extends into international distribution ability, US geographical coverage (house shows and TV tapings), logistics, venue bookings, marketing, merchandising, you name it. Those capabilities have taken the WWE decades to build up, and talent signings aren't going to bring those qualities to TNA.

What TNA needs is to establish itself as an alternative to the WWE first, and I do not believe they are there yet. A good veteran signing like Jericho (which I concede will never happen) will help bring consistency at least. Impact needs to become "watchable on a weekly basis" quality before it can be considered a valid WWE alternative.

And having a clear cut vision as opposed to just throwing darts at a wall.

 

[Pink Ranger]

And having a clear cut vision as opposed to just throwing darts at a wall.

Hence, consistency. When you've got two hours of content a week and the other company has five, you can't afford to have any unwatchable content on your show.

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

What's with all the talk about Jericho going to TNA?

 

[Mrs. Sawyer]

It was just a random name thrown out. We were talking about what wrestlers would help TNA right now, but I don't see anyone other than Cena or Punk making a huge splash.

 

[Hunter Rider]

The Best of WWE at Madison Square Garden is a match compilation and containing interviews in between content with wrestling personalities ranging from Vince McMahon, to Bruno Sammartino, to Daniel Bryan. It's hosted by Matt Striker who chimes in at the beginning and the end of the feature to introduce and reflect on the significance of The Garden. The DVD has a runtime of 7 hours and 8 minutes. The Blu-ray contains exclusive footage on top, taking the runtime of that version to 8 hours and 29 minutes. There are over 20 matches and moments featured on the compilation which date from 1971 to 2011. You can check out the entire match and content listing here: http://wwene.ws/12dFpad.

Below you can watch a preview video of the MSG DVD, in which Shawn Michaels talks about what headlining a sold out Madison Square Garden meant to him.

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Should be great!

 

[MMMMM...Pancakes]

It was just a random name thrown out. We were talking about what wrestlers would help TNA right now, but I don't see anyone other than Cena or Punk making a huge splash.

Ahhh, I see. Cena and Punk would definitely get people to tune in. Highly unlikely to happen at this time.

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Hunter Rider]

 

[Pink Ranger]

The only way Punk would help TNA is if he came back as the leader of Aces and 8s. The fact that Aces and the MEM (and, too recently, the Hogans thrown in there) is the focus of the main event program is what makes a lot of Impact unwatchable for me.

With a stable the size of Aces, the fact that there isn't a single wrestler in there that I like (or love to hate) is problematic. Not to beat this dead horse again, but Bully Ray does not belong as a singles main eventer.

 

[Warhammer]

That first one especially.

 

[Dr. Evil]

It was just a random name thrown out. We were talking about what wrestlers would help TNA right now, but I don't see anyone other than Cena or Punk making a huge splash.

Actually it's more "who would TNA go after if they were owned by Viacom"

 

[the_ultimate_evil]

Third generation Superstar and former WWE Tag Team Champion Ted DiBiase, Jr. confirmed via his Twitter account that he will not be re-signing his contract with World Wrestling Entertainment when it expires.

DiBiase has been with the WWE since 2008, when he made his debut and won gold alongside Cody Rhodes. He is only 30-years-old, and is open to a possible return in the future.

I had forgotten he was still with WWE.

and your neeeeeeeeeew tna world heavy weight champion