The Year 2012 (Merged)

[Carcharodon]

from what I have been reading from sources independant of doomsday forseers is that normally during magnetic pole shifts no. but many of the 2012 theorists are saying yes. a new equator and everything. Alaska used to be at the equator.

How long did it take Alaska to move to its current position? Was it "sudden?" How exactly is this support for your argument again?

my concern is that if the earth has a magnetic field and the galaxy and the sun each have one as well, is it possible that they could interact somehow that cause the earth to move, wobble suddenly or anything. like the way magnets repel and attract each other.

I'm not saying they can or will because I have no idea.

Here I will admit that my knowledge of such interactions is not extensive enough to answer that question with any level of certainty, except to say that I don't believe that the respective magnetic fields are powerful enough and/or in close enough proximity to cause a destabilizing effect.

It's fine that you don't have a background in science. I'm just not sure why you're so hesitant to accept the word of somebody who actually knows what they're talking about.

So I'm going to try to just drop this.

 

[Carcharodon]

what do you guys think about this? I'm asking because it's wikepedia and again I'm no expert.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/North_Magnetic_Pole#Geomagnetic_reversal

it does appear that a geo magnetic reversal of the poles does have this effect.

remember the geomagnetic poles are not the same as the magnetic poles.

....this is literally what I thought we've been talking about this entire time.

What "effect" are you referring to? This doesn't support anything you've been saying. I'm so damn confused.

Wait, forget it. I said I'd drop it.

 

[Paroxysm]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geomagnetic_reversal

At present, the overall geomagnetic field is becoming weaker at a rate which would, if it continues, cause the dipole field to temporarily collapse by 3000–4000 CE.[citation needed] The South Atlantic Anomaly is believed by some[who?] to be a product of this. The present strong deterioration corresponds to a 10–15% decline over the last 150 years and has accelerated in the past several years; however, geomagnetic intensity has declined almost continuously from a maximum 35% above the modern value achieved approximately 2000 years ago. The rate of decrease and the current strength are within the normal range of variation, as shown by the record of past magnetic fields recorded in rocks.

Pffft.

 

[A&W]

How long did it take Alaska to move to its current position? Was it "sudden?" How exactly is this support for your argument again?

I was merely stating that these poles do move. whether it happens rapid or gradual? Well that depends on if you believe information hasn't been controlled.

Here I will admit that my knowledge of such interactions is not extensive enough to answer that question with any level of certainty, except to say that I don't believe that the respective magnetic fields are powerful enough and/or in close enough proximity to cause a destabilizing effect.

That's what I'm saying. We have only the choice of taking "their" word for it. Even professors at a school are taking their word for it. It is possible that we have not been allowed to know.

It's fine that you don't have a background in science. I'm just not sure why you're so hesitant to accept the word of somebody who actually knows what they're talking about.

You just said your knowledge of such interactions is not extensive enough to answer that question with any level of certainty.

 

[A&W]

....this is literally what I thought we've been talking about this entire time.

What "effect" are you referring to? This doesn't support anything you've been saying. I'm so damn confused.

Wait, forget it. I said I'd drop it.

You think your confused? I'm confused as hell. three seperate north poles? I thought there was only 1 untill yesterday.

 

[Carcharodon]

I was merely stating that these poles do move. whether it happens rapid or gradual? Well that depends on if you believe information hasn't been controlled.

Alaska's movement from the equator has nothing to do with pole shifts.

(By the way, I'm telling you that with an extremely high level of certainty.)

That's what I'm saying. We have only the choice of taking "their" word for it. Even professors at a school are taking their word for it. It is possible that we have not been allowed to know.

Gotta love conspiracy theories. I think I see why you tend to side with the 2012 "theorists." I think it just appeals to you.

You just said your knowledge of such interactions is not extensive enough to answer that question with any level of certainty.

I was referring quite specifically to your question regarding the interactions of magnetic fields. With respect to plate tectonics and the generation of said fields, I feel more than qualified to tell you you're wrong if the situation warrants it.

 

[Carcharodon]

You think your confused? I'm confused as hell. three seperate north poles? I thought there was only 1 untill yesterday.

What was the "effect" you were referring to?

 

[webhead731]

The movie was a fun action flick.


The date itself is dumb though. Just because the calendar ends doesn't mean the world ends. My Iron Man calendar ends on December 31st so it must be the end right?

Please. Someone said "hey, this is stupid. We won't be around past this day, we gave them all these years, let's just quit and they can pick it back up later".

 

[Alex The Great]

Guys, it's clear. A Giant Penis that shioots out fire will kill us.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

The Mayan's connection between Alaska, the equator and a cataclysmic 2012 is totally believable: If Sarah Palin becomes the U.S. president we really will see the end of the world.

 

[Kane52630]

not sure if this was posted

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/afp-nasa-2012-myths.html

 

[chaseter]

The Mayan's connection between Alaska, the equator and a cataclysmic 2012 is totally believable: If Sarah Palin becomes the U.S. president we really will see the end of the world.

She won't be President at the time even if she is elected. As it stands, a black man will be President at that time and just like in every disaster movie, a black man is President. Coincidence? I think not!!!!

 

[TheDreamMaster]

not sure if this was posted

http://movies.yahoo.com/feature/afp-nasa-2012-myths.html

That report won't calm anybody down in the end, but I have to give it to NASA for trying. It was informative, though they gave relatively little information. Funny, I swear somewhere kept claiming a planetary alignment in 2012 that would have soem major effect.
Eh, that still doesn't debunk the idea that a major Earthquake could happen and cause some major worldwide effects though. I honestly fear that as I live in Kentucky, on a major fault line, near a plant with a large scale nuclear reactor, that once that "big one" hits, we don't have to worry too much about the affter effects, as that plant thirty miles from my house will probably explode and wipe us off the face of the earth.

 

[chaseter]

I live in Texas, if a huge tidal wave comes in from the South, I am gonzo. However, it won't happen so I don't give a ****. If it does, oh well.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

Their calender stops at 2012 because they ran out of room on the stone. Simple as that my friends and friendesses.

 

[BillyZaned]

She won't be President at the time even if she is elected. As it stands, a black man will be President at that time and just like in every disaster movie, a black man is President. Coincidence? I think not!!!!

I think if Sarah Palin becomes President... we have alot more to worry about then the mayans 2012 prediction......

 

[chaseter]

yes, yes we will.

 

[Ace of Knaves]

What's happened to that crazy ***** anyway? Faded back into obscurity?

 

[BillyZaned]

What's happened to that crazy ***** anyway? Faded back into obscurity?

No, she's still around somewhere... I think she "wrote" a book... I was suprised she even knew how to spell her name, let alone write a sentence....

 

[Ace of Knaves]

She wrote a book huh? What about? Killing polar bears and eating baby seals brains?

 

[Midnyte_Sun]

from what I have been reading from sources independant of doomsday forseers is that normally during magnetic pole shifts no. but many of the 2012 theorists are saying yes. a new equator and everything. Alaska used to be at the equator.


History channel documentary
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Lhs7VR52Bg&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LbMUFamZV0

my concern is that if the earth has a magnetic field and the galaxy and the sun each have one as well, is it possible that they could interact somehow that cause the earth to move, wobble suddenly or anything. like the way magnets repel and attract each other.

I'm not saying they can or will because I have no idea.

No. Also, don't ever trust any of the pseudo science, 'curses', 'doomsday', 'nostradamus' crap that the History channel pushes on TV. That channel has as much objectivity as Fox news. They should go back to WW I & II documentaries.

 

[BillyZaned]

She wrote a book huh? What about? Killing polar bears and eating baby seals brains?

about how parents should teach their kids abstenence....

about how birth control is evil....

about how to empower women....

about how education is important......

that woman put the republican party back 30 years.... now they act like it's 1890

 

[BillyZaned]

No. Also, don't ever trust any of the pseudo science, 'curses', 'doomsday', 'nostradamus' crap that the History channel pushes on TV. That channel has as much objectivity as Fox news. They should go back to WW I & II documentaries.

This week on the Nostradomus Effect... how the bible, hopi indians, and Nostradomus all are predicting that pizza will fall from the sky and cause mass impedence..... the fall of man is near

 

[Super_Ludacris]

Just saw this movie last night.

I actually kinda liked it.

Yeah there was major flaws, in terms of inconsistent tone (funny at times, serious others) and someone really didnt do the foreign actors justice by asking them to ham it up.
But this was a disaster flick and it had all the key plots locked down: Good special effects of destruction, dramatic peril scenes, and somewhat moving performances regarding humanity's place and selfishness (My main man Chitwel smashed it once again with that).

Its a guilty pleasure, I enjoyed it delivered as a disaster flick.

 

[A&W]

The movie was a fun action flick.


The date itself is dumb though. Just because the calendar ends doesn't mean the world ends. My Iron Man calendar ends on December 31st so it must be the end right?

Please. Someone said "hey, this is stupid. We won't be around past this day, we gave them all these years, let's just quit and they can pick it back up later".

Their calender stops at 2012 because they ran out of room on the stone. Simple as that my friends and friendesses.

while it is debated whether anything catastrophic will occure, the reason for the calendar ending on that date is not. They chose that day because of the alignment. The calendar predicted several eclipses and it ends on that day because of the alignment between the sun, earth, and the black hole at the center of the galaxy. And it predicts the end of one cycle and the beginning of another.

The calendar ending on that day is not because the Myans got stoned, or lazy, or because they were killed before they could finish it.

It ended on that day because they considered it to be a very signifigant day. I'm not saying this proves the end is near, but to those offering reasons such as your own for why it ended, your reasons aren't real.

This alignment occurs once every 26,000 years.