Sequels Thread for VILLANS in Spider-Man 4 and 5 (Don't make any more!)

[Immortalfire]

4: Lizard and Kraven

5: Electro, with quick guest spot by Shocker

 

[Spider-Fan83]

any random six villians, aren't the Sinister 6
(there’s been a few different line ups in the past, and you can use substitute replacements for a couple of them, but, I’d like to see as many of the original line up as they can get)

 

[Cagefighterkip]

any random six villians, aren't the Sinister 6
(there’s been a few different line ups in the past, and you can use substitute replacements for a couple of them, but, I’d like to see as many of the original line up as they can get)

agreed

 

[The Flea]

The Spot!

Seriously, though, My guesses for villains are Lizard, Kraven, Vulture and Black Cat.

Lizard/Kraven for 4
BC/Vulture for 5.

They've wanted to use BC, Lizard and Vulture before but ended up not doing it.

 

[Venom75]

Spider-man 4: The Lizard is a given. I know Kraven is the popular choice,but for this one I'd just rather go back to one villain.

Spider-man 5:I'd love to see either Black Cat and/or Scorpion.



As movie villains I just don't like Kraven or the Vulture.

 

[Venom 1988]

Spider-man 4: The Lizard is a given. I know Kraven is the popular choice,but for this one I'd just rather go back to one villain.

Its been confirmed we're getting two

 

[Venom75]

Its been confirmed we're getting two

Jeez. I'm usually up on all Spidey news. I must have been daydreaming that day. lol
Ok,I'll add Scorpion with the Lizard. Maybe Gargan could be created like TAS,where Jameson creates him(or the criminal underworld)to finally get rid of Spidey. I'd love to see Black Cat,but they already tried the love triangle thing in Spidey 3. It wasn't a very good one,but having it in the very next film wouldn't set well for MJ and Peter's relationship,and it's a repeat of part 3,of course. Save BC for 5 or 6.

 

[Symbiote789]

Its been confirmed we're getting two

It has?

 

[Venom 1988]

It has?

Yes...almost a year ago actually, right after James Vanderbilt was confirmed to writing the script.

 

[Cagefighterkip]

Yes...almost a year ago actually, right after James Vanderbilt was confirmed to writing the script.

cool
im pretty certain one of the villans is lizard, i just want to know who the second villan is!

 

[raider34r]

sm4- lizard and kraven

sm5- electro and scorpion OR vulture

Electro is a must!

 

[Victarion]

I wrote it with Kraven, and Dr. Octopus with the symbiote plus a cliffhanger for lizard. However I expect Lizard is a given along with either Kraven or Scorpion.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Sm 4 - Lizard and Kraven.

SM 5 - Joker and Two Face.

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

Kidding of course. The next logical villain for SM 5 who provides both a serious threat to Spider-Man and the city, as well as excellent visuals, HAS to be Electro.

No other villain comes close.

Electro and Vulture worked well together in Millar's Marvel Knights storyline, so maybe Vulture as a secondary villain...

 

[thejon93]

Kidding of course. The next logical villain for SM 5 who provides both a serious threat to Spider-Man and the city, as well as excellent visuals, HAS to be Electro.

No other villain comes close.

Chameleon, Mysterio, Vulture?... These three are ones as well, in my opinion.

 

[bryanss3]

They definitely should not put the Black Cat/Felicia hardy in a movie. they shouldn't have have put Gwen Stacy in the last. I'm not excited for the next two movies, but I'll hope they turn out great.

I think spidey should get a live action show like smallville, but unlike smallville it will go somewhere with the hero. like with good writers it could be like Buffy The Vampire Slayer. The main problem for that is he basically would never get to work with other heroes that he has worked with, cause they'd have to give them all shows. he could use Black Cat and maybe DareDevil.

I mean like buffy in goodness not spidey fighting Vamps..... except Morbious he gets to fight him.

 

[SolarTiger]

Spiderman 4:The lizard and Kraven

Spiderman 5:rhino and kingpin(rhino is working for kingpin)

 

[HughJackFan420]

any random six villians, aren't the Sinister 6
(there’s been a few different line ups in the past, and you can use substitute replacements for a couple of them, but, I’d like to see as many of the original line up as they can get)

i somewhat agree....

if 4 and 5 are going to be filmed back to back they should only be filmed for the ultimate set up for Spider-Man 6 which respectively should be meant for the Sinister 6. now with talks about them re-doing Daredevil, throw in Blackcat they can pull off a great Spider-Man 6. now lets talk about 4 and 5. in 4 i would agree with the fans Lizard should be in the next one along with Carnage. The fact that Carnage would ever be in the next one is thanks to Venom which should be left as a cliffhanger in the end along with how Doc Ock survived. but 4 should only be soley for 2 villains Carnage and Lizard cliffhanger Doc Ock and Venom's return. Venom/Brock should be preserved by Brock's father (basing it off the Ultimate Spider-Man comics) who is a scientist that worked with Peter's biological father. The secret of the symbiote unfolds. all villains survive. now in 5 Venom kills Carnage and we should bring in another classic....Electro. in 5 no more sissy romance parts...no more life lessons from ...no more corny scenes at the Daily Bugle...but in all out war between Spider-Man and the 5 surviving villains...Doc Ock, Sandman (who should turn against Spider-Man who prevents Sandman saving his daughter when a decision is made between using the last bit of the symbiote to transform himself into Black Symbiote/Spider-Man to save the city from the 5 villain team up or to save his Sandman's daughter since Brock's father and Peter's father have already discovered another symbiote many years ago and discover its capabilities including the fact it can cure cancer) Electro, Venom, and Lizard. They all work toeghter to kill Spider-Man but fail since at the end Symbiote Spidey triumphs but is now stuck with the suit on. at the end Doc Ock, Lizard, Electro have invented a powerful machine that causes sonic waves that can be used to remove the symbitoe and what better villain to fund them the money to make this machine? Fisk/Kingpin ...the 6th villain who will show up in Spider-Man 6. now in Spider-Man 6 Venom and Sandman fight for who gets to kill Spider-Man and Venoms venomous bite disolves Sandman. and who ever else survives can be left in the air. with no symbiote Spidey would have to have some allies...again...Daredevil and Blackcat. ....just a thought but that is what i would like to see in Spider-Man 4 and 5 and "6 Enter the Sinister 6"


would like some feedback though what do u guys think?

 

[Kirk Langstrom]

i somewhat agree....

if 4 and 5 are going to be filmed back to back they should only be filmed for the ultimate set up for Spider-Man 6 which respectively should be meant for the Sinister 6. now with talks about them re-doing Daredevil, throw in Blackcat they can pull off a great Spider-Man 6. now lets talk about 4 and 5. in 4 i would agree with the fans Lizard should be in the next one along with Carnage. The fact that Carnage would ever be in the next one is thanks to Venom which should be left as a cliffhanger in the end along with how Doc Ock survived. but 4 should only be soley for 2 villains Carnage and Lizard cliffhanger Doc Ock and Venom's return. Venom/Brock should be preserved by Brock's father (basing it off the Ultimate Spider-Man comics) who is a scientist that worked with Peter's biological father. The secret of the symbiote unfolds. all villains survive. now in 5 Venom kills Carnage and we should bring in another classic....Electro. in 5 no more sissy romance parts...no more life lessons from ...no more corny scenes at the Daily Bugle...but in all out war between Spider-Man and the 5 surviving villains...Doc Ock, Sandman (who should turn against Spider-Man who prevents Sandman saving his daughter when a decision is made between using the last bit of the symbiote to transform himself into Black Symbiote/Spider-Man to save the city from the 5 villain team up or to save his Sandman's daughter since Brock's father and Peter's father have already discovered another symbiote many years ago and discover its capabilities including the fact it can cure cancer) Electro, Venom, and Lizard. They all work toeghter to kill Spider-Man but fail since at the end Symbiote Spidey triumphs but is now stuck with the suit on. at the end Doc Ock, Lizard, Electro have invented a powerful machine that causes sonic waves that can be used to remove the symbitoe and what better villain to fund them the money to make this machine? Fisk/Kingpin ...the 6th villain who will show up in Spider-Man 6. now in Spider-Man 6 Venom and Sandman fight for who gets to kill Spider-Man and Venoms venomous bite disolves Sandman. and who ever else survives can be left in the air. with no symbiote Spidey would have to have some allies...again...Daredevil and Blackcat. ....just a thought but that is what i would like to see in Spider-Man 4 and 5 and "6 Enter the Sinister 6"


would like some feedback though what do u guys think?

Dont know if there's even GOING to be a SM6 at this point...i mean, if there WAS, then why not film all three together? Didnt they do that for LOTR?

If there's a guarantee for SM6, then sure; set up the Sinister Six. Otherwise, why worry about it?

 

[Venom 1988]

i somewhat agree....

if 4 and 5 are going to be filmed back to back they should only be filmed for the ultimate set up for Spider-Man 6 which respectively should be meant for the Sinister 6. now with talks about them re-doing Daredevil, throw in Blackcat they can pull off a great Spider-Man 6. now lets talk about 4 and 5. in 4 i would agree with the fans Lizard should be in the next one along with Carnage. The fact that Carnage would ever be in the next one is thanks to Venom which should be left as a cliffhanger in the end along with how Doc Ock survived. but 4 should only be soley for 2 villains Carnage and Lizard cliffhanger Doc Ock and Venom's return. Venom/Brock should be preserved by Brock's father (basing it off the Ultimate Spider-Man comics) who is a scientist that worked with Peter's biological father. The secret of the symbiote unfolds. all villains survive. now in 5 Venom kills Carnage and we should bring in another classic....Electro. in 5 no more sissy romance parts...no more life lessons from ...no more corny scenes at the Daily Bugle...but in all out war between Spider-Man and the 5 surviving villains...Doc Ock, Sandman (who should turn against Spider-Man who prevents Sandman saving his daughter when a decision is made between using the last bit of the symbiote to transform himself into Black Symbiote/Spider-Man to save the city from the 5 villain team up or to save his Sandman's daughter since Brock's father and Peter's father have already discovered another symbiote many years ago and discover its capabilities including the fact it can cure cancer) Electro, Venom, and Lizard. They all work toeghter to kill Spider-Man but fail since at the end Symbiote Spidey triumphs but is now stuck with the suit on. at the end Doc Ock, Lizard, Electro have invented a powerful machine that causes sonic waves that can be used to remove the symbitoe and what better villain to fund them the money to make this machine? Fisk/Kingpin ...the 6th villain who will show up in Spider-Man 6. now in Spider-Man 6 Venom and Sandman fight for who gets to kill Spider-Man and Venoms venomous bite disolves Sandman. and who ever else survives can be left in the air. with no symbiote Spidey would have to have some allies...again...Daredevil and Blackcat. ....just a thought but that is what i would like to see in Spider-Man 4 and 5 and "6 Enter the Sinister 6"


would like some feedback though what do u guys think?

To be honest? Horrible, especially since your always trying to bring in Howard Mackie's crap writing about Venom biting Sandman.

 

[The Shredder]

I REALLY want to see Electro finally appear in the Spidey films.

And those who come close, are of course the Lizard, and another personal fav, Mysterio.

 

[FaT_tONle]

Electro is kind of lame for the grand finale... I guess a Vulture combo wouldn't be a terrible line of thought... but I still like Mysterio only if Bruce Cambell plays him. I mean these films have already been Raimified as it is... why deviate now? Electro would end up being another villain audiences could care less about. I mean they tried to make people care about Sandman with the lame ass back story and we know how that turned out. A random villain like Electro as the final bad guy isn't my cup of tea. He is probably my second choice but still. Not very creative.

 

[MonBeeb]

Somewhere down the line they really ought to pair up the Chameleon and Mysterio. They're both illusionists. Obviously the ongoing threat in the movie would be the exposure of Peter's identity. Mysterio and Chameleon would make the point that he can't keep up the Spider-Man illusion forever, and would try to expose him. That makes sense to me. SM5, maybe. It seems pretty clear that SM4 will probably be Lizard and Kraven.

 

[Venom'sDad]

That's not a bad idea MonBeeb... not my 1st choice of story involving Chameleon; but, it is not a bad theme for those two, if paired up.

 

[Nathan]

I'd definitely would like to see the Lizard and Electro appear in the movies. I don't really care who gets chosen as a secondary villain. Hmm... although Shocker would be kinda cool to see.