Tim: Upgrade Susan's Force-fields!

[Lightning Strykez!]

Calling Tim Story!
Please Upgrade Susan's Force-field Display!

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There are three superheroines that have long reigned in my heart as personal faves for decades: Storm (of the X-Men), Wonder Woman and Invisible Woman. Of the three, I feel that the power displays of Invisible Woman are probably the most visually impressive. Why? Because one ever knows exactly what Susan's going to do next with her abilities. The creative range of her powers is nearly limitless.

Susan's brain cells produce psionic force that she can shape into relatively simple forms - such as rectangle planes, globes, cylinders, cones and domes. Also, she can mentally project protective fields that are highly resistant to concussive forces. And by projecting columns of psionic force beneath her, she can travel through the air. Technically speaking, she is undoubtedly the most powerful of the Fantastic Four, and a serious force to reckon with.

That said, one of the things that drew me to the Invisible Woman was the elegant look of her power displays. Since they are psionically-generated, the comics always portrayed beams of energy firing from her forehead. Often, this was depicted as a barrage of "bubbles"....

Or "force shards"....

...and of course, her trademark "slide"...

And these are the most primitive of shapes the Invisible Woman is capable of creating with her mind as both offensive and defensive weapons.

As the production works on the SFX for FF2, I'd like to see Mrs. Richards' power displays to be upgraded to something a little more elegant and interesting. To be bluntly honest, I've never cared for the first film's take on her forcefields. I realize they wanted to make it look more "organic" but in the end I felt it looked like...well, flying snot. For example, when Reed is examining her at the lab, she loses control and fires off a force field at him. The field had no form to it. It just looked like snot swirling through the air. Ugh.

For this sequel, it'd be great to see a departure from this Jello-Gelatin look in favor of something harder and glass-like. I realize that we may not get her "Invisible Slide" this go-round (as it would compete too much with the Silver Surfer's debut) but surely there are other things the production could do to make her force-field displays look...more interesting.

Finally, I really, REALLY think it's important to show the fields generating from Jessica's forehead instead of her whole body. This would reinforce the fact to the audience that her character's energies are mentally borne, not physically.

Does anyone else agree with this observation?

 

[Ulic Queldroma]

Good points, but they're likely too little, too late at this point.

 

[Malus]

Finally, I really, REALLY think it's important to show the fields generating from Jessica's forehead instead of her whole body. This would reinforce the fact to the audience that her character's energies are mentally borne, not physically.

VERY much agree with this part.
And no, it is not necessarily too late in production for this to be considered.
No harm in getting the word out there.
The field emanates from her forehead, Fox.

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

AD, since you have the "connections" maybe you can pull Tim's ear this way to read this? I think it's worthy of consideration.

 

[Malus]

AD, since you have the "connections" maybe you can pull Tim's ear this way to read this? I think it's worthy of consideration.

Yes, now that FF2 is in post-production, the next couple of months are when these effects will probably be created and/or finalized.

 

[Fantastic-Boy]

That first pic of Sue is beautiful!!!

 

[Kelly]

There was a rumor going around awhile back that there is a scene where she is standing on a forcefield next to the Fantasticar and then simply floats down on the forcefield......I don't know if this is true.....for some reason I think that some of the financial cutting that Tim talked about in an early blog was probably in the area of Sue.....just a thought...

 

[highguard]

Lightning, where did that first pic come from?

 

[Kelly]

I was really hoping to see a scene like the 5th picture....but I have a feeling I'm not going to get my wish....

 

[highguard]

Yeah I recall when Alba was talking about her role this time she seemed to be projecting herself as the most powerful of the four ala the byrne era, however recent reports don't seem to be bearing this out, so the script must have been adapted or the forementioned cuts did indeed cut Sue Storm's power manifestations some.

Honestly I would like an update of her powers but I was never too much into the sue must morph into the most powerful member as Byrne did. I prefer a more middle of the road version of sue. One that you know is super powerful who demonstrates that when her family is threatened but absent the machismo male tripping of "I am the most powerful one there is, kneel before me".

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

Lightning, where did that first pic come from?

Newsrama.com...

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I guess I'm the only person who thought the force-fields looked like flying walls of snot?

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

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Uh, when compared with th^t pic, there are two other things they should upgrade. ​

 

[C. Lee]

I guess I'm the only person who thought the force-fields looked like flying walls of snot?

That image never entered my or any of my family's minds......I didn't see any problem with how her force field was showed.

 

[Kelly]

I guess I'm the only person who thought the force-fields looked like flying walls of snot?

I thought Sue's SFX was the best in the movie....

 

[Lightning Strykez!]

I did love the way she looked while invisible. But I just didn't care for the forcefield projection. At all. I hated the way it looked like 'wet' wind at times...formless. Expecially in Reed's lab--after he fell backward in the chair the stuff just went everywhich way...it just resembled a large sneeze. LOL

But I'd be okay with it, if it was projected from her MIND, not her entire body. It doesn't really come across psionic.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

They could've saved so much money (which could've gone toward a CGI Thing) if they'd just made her.....invisible, when she was "invisible", and made her force fields....invisible, since....she's, "INVISIBLE woman.

 

[zer00]

I...I didn't notice

I'm going with C.Lee

 

[Ebil Gig]

I actually liked the way her force-field shield looked.

 

[Sun_Down]

Really, LS? I never figured you for the kinda person to make a thread like this. Seems beneath you, to be honest.

 

[Wilhelm-Scream]

Well it's a special case 'cause Sue "Reigns in his Heart".

 

[zer00]

Really, LS? I never figured you for the kinda person to make a thread like this. Seems beneath you, to be honest.

Really? seems rather fitting

 

[gambitfire]

I like most of what you say LS and agree with it, but isn't it kinda late in the game to be asking for change? I'm sure by now the SFX teams already have some stuff ready to go with the older effect (assuming with some changes not as much as the ones you would like i guess). I know they still have about 5 months, but there's alot of preproduction that goes into some of this stuff, and to scrap and change it i'm sure cost alot of money.

Also did you take into consideration that in F4 given the timespan they had (story wise) she didn't have enough nor could gain enough experience to do the things some ppl would like her to do.

Just my two cents.

 

[Kelly]

I did love the way she looked while invisible. But I just didn't care for the forcefield projection. At all. I hated the way it looked like 'wet' wind at times...formless. Expecially in Reed's lab--after he fell backward in the chair the stuff just went everywhich way...it just resembled a large sneeze. LOL

But I'd be okay with it, if it was projected from her MIND, not her entire body. It doesn't really come across psionic.

Well again, I liked how the forcefield looked.....maybe it went ever which way because she didn't know how to control.....at that point, she was surprised it even slamed Reed in the first place.....that was only the 2nd time she had seen it come about....

As far as a sneeze.....I'm sorry, but I thought it looked cool....*shrugs shoulders* I don't know what to tell you.....

Except....I think its too late.....hopefully they'll make the forcefield more to your liking this go around...

 

[highguard]

^^ Too late bud, FX previz and all that stuff was done and finished before the first movie ever got shot. Seeing as how it (Sue's Power manifestation) was not a bugbear people complained about for the first movie it probably was never looked at unless Story has reset evolutionary power arcs for all the characters and I doubt he has that for anyone but the thing.