The Dark Knight To Bleach or Not to Bleach? That is the Question

[Saint]

Dude, the Batpot fires bullets and it also has a one-shot cannon. Then again, all the Batmobiles have shot heavy-duty rockets, and the 1989 Batmobile also had machines guns.

He doesn't use them to kill people, so what's the problem?

I believe the Tumbler was said to have machine guns as well, despite the fact that they were never mentioned in the film.

 

[Dirt Like Me]

I'll look into it... tomorrow cause it's getting late here and I don't have 1 hour or more in front of me. I'm pretty sure, with all the things he said about the Joker, he addressed the make-up issue at least once.



This is not comparable. Making people believe that a certain weapon exists, and making the same people believe that a chemical accident CONVENIENTLY turned a psychopath into a clown-looking freak when the guy was already wearing clown make-up in the first 2 hours of the movie is different, at least to me.

The first thing may look unbelievable. But the second one would definitely look like a big joke played on the audience.

Wouldn't that be a very Jokerish thing to do, then?

Also, who said anything about a chemical accident? I just want white skin.

 

[JayTee]

If I wanted to watch a movie about Batman firing off weapons from a vehicle, I'd at least watch Batman '89 with a Joker who didn't look like a drunken Crow.

What. The. Hell. Happened.

They spent all this time crafting the perfect Batman world, and destroyed it.

I'm less excited about this movie all the time.

 

[Keyser Soze]

If I wanted to watch a movie about Batman firing off weapons from a vehicle, I'd at least watch Batman '89 with a Joker who didn't look like a drunken Crow.

What. The. Hell. Happened.

They spent all this time crafting the perfect Batman world, and destroyed it.

I'm less excited about this movie all the time.

...

Well, different strokes for different folks, I guess...

 

[The Shape]

If I wanted to watch a movie about Batman firing off weapons from a vehicle, I'd at least watch Batman '89 with a Joker who didn't look like a drunken Crow.

What. The. Hell. Happened.

They spent all this time crafting the perfect Batman world, and destroyed it.

I'm less excited about this movie all the time.

Most ridiculous post I've ever read. They destroyed the "perfect Batman world" because the Batpot fires live rounds? You didn't mind that Batman ran over/crushed/hit/destroyed like a million police cars in Batman Begins, AND shot rockets from the Batmobile that blew stuff up?

I'm not even gonna respond to the "drunked Crow" statement.

 

[JayTee]

Good, because I wrote "drunken Crow".

The movie noted that no one was hurt, despite that being kinda ridiculous in the first place, and the rockets were part of the Tumbler as was for the army seeing as Batman hadn't refined his gear yet.

Deploying a small explosive to open a wall is acceptable, but still kinda flirting with disaster. You'd have a lot of mental hoops to jump through before you accepted an experienced Batman using BULLETS for anything.

 

[undyingsoul]

Good, because I wrote "drunken Crow".

The movie noted that no one was hurt, despite that being kinda ridiculous in the first place, and the rockets were part of the Tumbler as was for the army seeing as Batman hadn't refined his gear yet.

Deploying a small explosive to open a wall is acceptable, but still kinda flirting with disaster. You'd have a lot of mental hoops to jump through before you accepted an experienced Batman using BULLETS for anything.

I smell a troll.

 

[sasquatchs]

I'd like to see a Batman movie where he accidentally kills someone and it isn't considered throwaway. Maybe next time

 

[MAKIEVELLI]

I actually love the fact that Bat's vehincles have bullets and missiles, as long as he doesn't hurt or kill anybody with them, they could be very helpful tools.

 

[JayTee]

I smell a troll.

I've been coming to this site since it was spidermanhype.com.

I think not.

Look at my post history and find some lovely contradictions. I've been excited about this movie for quite some time, now the closer we get, and the more I know about it, the less it's becoming the definitive Batman movie I'd always wanted.

*sigh

 

[The Shape]

Good, because I wrote "drunken Crow".

The movie noted that no one was hurt, despite that being kinda ridiculous in the first place, and the rockets were part of the Tumbler as was for the army seeing as Batman hadn't refined his gear yet.

Deploying a small explosive to open a wall is acceptable, but still kinda flirting with disaster. You'd have a lot of mental hoops to jump through before you accepted an experienced Batman using BULLETS for anything.

But you accepted it in the '89 Batman?

You also described exactly what Batman uses these weapons -- to aid him in his cause. To make way for an escape. To capture another vehicle. He doesn't shoot them in people's faces or anything. They are necessary tools.

 

[undyingsoul]

But you accepted it in the '89 Batman?

You also described exactly what Batman uses these weapons -- to aid him in his cause. To make way for an escape. To capture another vehicle. He doesn't shoot them in people's faces or anything. They are necessary tools.

QFT

 

[Keyser Soze]

Good, because I wrote "drunken Crow".

The movie noted that no one was hurt, despite that being kinda ridiculous in the first place, and the rockets were part of the Tumbler as was for the army seeing as Batman hadn't refined his gear yet.

Deploying a small explosive to open a wall is acceptable, but still kinda flirting with disaster. You'd have a lot of mental hoops to jump through before you accepted an experienced Batman using BULLETS for anything.

There's plenty of reasons for the Batpod to have bullets, other than being used to shoot people. To take out vehicles, obstacles, etc. I don't see why it's such a major, film-ruining flaw. You KNOW Batman has a strict no-kill rule incorporated into his characterisation in this series. You KNOW he's not going to drive around committing drive-by killings on crooks. So why is it such an issue?

 

[MAKIEVELLI]

I do have to admit, however, that using machine gun fire on roads doesn't sound like something Batman would do. Too much risk IMO

 

[JayTee]

"If I wanted to watch a movie about Batman firing off weapons from a vehicle, I'd at least watch Batman '89 with a Joker who didn't look like a drunken Crow."

Hardly sounds like I accepted it.

I also spelled out the discernible difference between small explosives to open pathways, and having all out MACHINES GUNS. That crosses some lines.

Hopefully I'll get less angry, digest this, and enjoy Dark Knight for the badly flawed fun its going to be.

MAN, they were so close too.

 

[undyingsoul]

"If I wanted to watch a movie about Batman firing off weapons from a vehicle, I'd at least watch Batman '89 with a Joker who didn't look like a drunken Crow."

Hardly sounds like I accepted it.

I also spelled out the discernible difference between small explosives to open pathways, and having all out MACHINES GUNS. That crosses some lines.

Hopefully I'll get less angry, digest this, and enjoy Dark Knight for the badly flawed fun its going to be.

MAN, they were so close too.

wow, its almost breathtaking how much you are blowing this out of proportion, your going to get up and walk out over it? grow up a little bit.

 

[Patty]

I've been coming to this site since it was spidermanhype.com.

I think not.

Look at my post history and find some lovely contradictions. I've been excited about this movie for quite some time, now the closer we get, and the more I know about it, the less it's becoming the definitive Batman movie I'd always wanted.

*sigh

I hope when you see it it changes yer mind. I really want EVERYONE to love this batman flick the most, since this is the first Batman movie Ive ever waited for to come out, wanted to see, have been excited for, etc.

I know its near-impossible, but Id love it if every single person who sees this loves it.

 

[nickyg641]

There's plenty of reasons for the Batpod to have bullets, other than being used to shoot people. To take out vehicles, obstacles, etc. I don't see why it's such a major, film-ruining flaw. You KNOW Batman has a strict no-kill rule incorporated into his characterisation in this series. You KNOW he's not going to drive around committing drive-by killings on crooks. So why is it such an issue?

I just prefer the idea that Batman has a general dislike of firearms. Because by the logic of machine guns on the batpod, you could justify Batman carrying a revolver on his belt. Hell, you could justify him shooting people, so long as he doesn't actually kill them.

 

[sasquatchs]

Well he did shoot someone in Begins...

 

[JayTee]

wow, its almost breathtaking how much you are blowing this out of proportion, your going to get up and walk out over it? grow up a little bit.

Someone could say the same of you for gushing over a movie online. C'mon let's get real here. I pay my rent, I go to work, I drink with friends, and yes, I like Batman and give a crap what happens in his onscreen portrayals. (insert applicable emoticon or internet abbreviation here)

 

[JayTee]

I just prefer the idea that Batman has a general dislike of firearms. Because by the logic of machine guns on the batpod, you could justify Batman carrying a revolver on his belt. Hell, you could justify him shooting people, so long as he doesn't actually kill them.

Exactly, this line of madness leads to it's own "escalation".

Pretty soon you've got Batman packing heat in Batman 3 and some jerk going "well in the golden age....".

Oye, speaking of work, I'm outta here. I'll get over this and enjoy the movie eventually, but c'mon guys, admit it, Hollywood d**ks with the stuff we love, and you simply can't just go along with it all the time. Eventually you'll be looking for excuses why Sandman shooting Uncle Ben by accident "works".

Peace.

 

[undyingsoul]

Someone could say the same of you for gushing over a movie online. C'mon let's get real here. I pay my rent, I go to work, I drink with friends, and yes, I like Batman and give a crap what happens in his onscreen portrayals. (insert applicable emoticon or internet abbreviation here)

I haven't said much of what I think, really. I like most of what I have seen but then again I am not the type to get P.O'ed if it doesn't resemble the comics to a T but yea I'm sure there are things to be concerned about including the machine guns but it all depends on how it's execute but your making a bigger deal than it really is.

 

[nickyg641]

Someone could say the same of you for gushing over a movie online. C'mon let's get real here. I pay my rent, I go to work, I drink with friends, and yes, I like Batman and give a crap what happens in his onscreen portrayals. (insert applicable emoticon or internet abbreviation here)

While I almost completely disagree with you about your opinions of the movie being a disappointment, it is ironic how the people who tell you, if you're not gushing about a movie, you're a dork who needs to get a life and accept that everything is not going to be like the way you want it, are the same people who, in the next sentence, will tell you why Nolan is so much greater than Tim Burton and Joel Schumacher, who "just didn't understand the comics".

Not talking about anyone in particular, just aobserving some of the facets of fanboyism in general.

 

[ForestAflame]

Exactly, this line of madness leads to it's own "escalation".

Pretty soon you've got Batman packing heat in Batman 3 and some jerk going "well in the golden age....".

Oye, speaking of work, I'm outta here. I'll get over this and enjoy the movie eventually, but c'mon guys, admit it, Hollywood d**ks with the stuff we love, and you simply can't just go along with it all the time. Eventually you'll be looking for excuses why Sandman shooting Uncle Ben by accident "works".

QFT

 

[kid bosco]

Someone could say the same of you for gushing over a movie online. C'mon let's get real here. I pay my rent, I go to work, I drink with friends, and yes, I like Batman and give a crap what happens in his onscreen portrayals. (insert applicable emoticon or internet abbreviation here)

But don't we all?
What makes you any different, other than being one in a very few turned off from wanting to see one of the best ( if not THE best ) film of the summer?
And over.........Nothing.


Get out.
Please.