Revenge of the Fallen Transformers: ROTF User Review Thread

[BlackLantern]

Hell yeah !! As expensive as it is to go to the movies these days, Bay should not only ride my D--K, but suck it too ( Wait, that sounds a little gay don't it ?)

BTW, I hate Beast Wars, Armada, Energon, and Animated.

so are you now indicating that G1 is the sole source material from which all things Transformers should be derived from and damn any other intrepretation??

 

[Mr. Earle]

so are you now indicating that G1 is the sole source material from which all things Transformers should be derived from and damn any other intrepretation??

He probably means thats the only one he likes.

 

[BlackLantern]

He probably means thats the only one he likes.

which, with most people, means he thinks that's the only one that matters

 

[Nathan]

The G1 hard on most people have needs to stop. I loved the cartoon, but I can still see how terribly cheesy and corny some of the stuff was. I'm glad that we've got many different Transformers cartoons, because every cartoon brings something new to the table. Good things, as well as bad things.

And while I want that the Movies take a lot from G1, I don't mind if they also pick stories and characters from the other cartoons.

 

[SUPER SAIYAN D]

which, with most people, means he thinks that's the only one that matters

Once again, Black Lantern it is my OPINION that G1 is the one true Transformers, and yes the my favorite version.

 

[Theweepeople]

There is so much more to Transformers then just G1. If anything, G1 gave a giant **** you to the G1 fans when they killed off almost everyone in the 86 film just so they can sell toys.

G1 and Beast Wars are the only Transformers cartoons I care about. All the other ones that came after(Beast Machines, Robots in Disguise, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, and Animated) are crap.

I'm probably one of the few G1 fans that think the original film sucked. I actually like heavy metal and thought most of the music was lame and distracting. The only music I liked were the instrumental songs(Autobot city battle, Primes death, and Unicron's theme). Sadly the music is only a minor complaint of the film. My major complaints are the lack of classic G1 autobots, the annoying new autobots(Wheelie, Wreck Gar, and Blur being introduced), a poor introduction to the other new autobots(Kup, Arcee, Springer, Hot Rod, and Ultra Magnus), Unicron's lack of origin(where did he come from?!!!!), hearing Daniel speak, and some annoying plotholes.



The following review pretty much somes up everything that was wrong with the 1986 film.

http://builtstlouis.net/tf/manic/s-movie.html

 

[BlackLantern]

Once again, Black Lantern it is my OPINION that G1 is the one true Transformers, and yes the my favorite version.

then all you're guilty of is a lack of perspective....but that's nothing new around these parts

 

[SUPER SAIYAN D]

then all you're guilty of is a lack of perspective....but that's nothing new around these parts

*sigh* If u say so dude. I swear, being on SHH is like being in a room full of Jerry's kids.

 

[Theweepeople]

then all you're guilty of is a lack of perspective....but that's nothing new around these parts

He isn't guilty of anything if G1 is the only cartoon he enjoyed. This has nothing to do with perspective. It has everything to do with personal taste. I like G1 and Beast Wars because those are the only cartoons I've enjoyed.

 

[BlackLantern]

I tried watching Beast Wars and then about season 3 it got weird, they all looked different and lots of switching sides

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

G1 and Beast Wars are the only Transformers cartoons I care about. All the other ones that came after(Beast Machines, Robots in Disguise, Armada, Energon, Cybertron, and Animated) are crap.

I'm probably one of the few G1 fans that think the original film sucked. I actually like heavy metal and thought most of the music was lame and distracting. The only music I liked were the instrumental songs(Autobot city battle, Primes death, and Unicron's theme). Sadly the music is only a minor complaint of the film. My major complaints are the lack of classic G1 autobots, the annoying new autobots(Wheelie, Wreck Gar, and Blur being introduced), a poor introduction to the other new autobots(Kup, Arcee, Springer, Hot Rod, and Ultra Magnus), Unicron's lack of origin(where did he come from?!!!!), hearing Daniel speak, and some annoying plotholes.



The following review pretty much somes up everything that was wrong with the 1986 film.

http://builtstlouis.net/tf/manic/s-movie.html

There is a lot wrong with the 86 film, but damn I still love it.

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

Why is Optimus Prime a Gorilla?

 

[BlackLantern]

There is a lot wrong with the 86 film, but damn I still love it.

both the Transfomers and GI Joe animated films eschewed their established characters to try and push new ones

 

[Lunar_Wolf]

Why is Optimus Prime a Gorilla?

Transformers crashed on Earth and they scanned animals because cars, planes etc did not exist.

 

[Nathan]

The main reason was that they needed organic forms, because the raw energon located on the planet would've otherwise fried their circuits.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Btw does anybody know what Prime says right after he jumps off Grindor whose head he just tore in half? He whispers something...

 

[dark_b]

gorilla OP was badass.

i love beast warsl

 

[The Lizard]

Why is Optimus Prime a Gorilla?

Truk, not munky !!!1

 

[DarknessOfDeath]

+I watched the first episode of Beast Wars and it weirded me out. I guess I am not used to that version of Transformers.

I prefer the autobots transforming into cars and s***. Bumblebee is my fave :heart: next to Optimus Prime.

 

[Mr. Earle]

+I watched the first episode of Beast Wars and it weirded me out. I guess I am not used to that version of Transformers.

I prefer the autobots transforming into cars and s***. Bumblebee is my fave :heart: next to Optimus Prime.

The first few episodes are a bit childish but then it gets a lot better. They transformed into animals because of the huge energon resources on the planet that would fry their circuits if they were left exposed for too long. These robots are also smaller than the G1 robots (and thats why they can turn into animals), supposedly because that way they are more energy efficient in the energon starved future. They are descendants of the Autobots and the Decepticons.

The later transmetal designs were freaking ugly and nonsensical and IMHO were done just to sell more toys.

To show you how good the show gets i will reveal some spoilers. You can choose not to read them of course:

Spoiler

The planet they are on was built by an omnipotent alien race. They created organic life and left it to grow as an experiment. Also, the planet has two moons. One is revealed to be a mechanical one that opens up and becomes a huge cannon, which in case the experiment goes bad would be used to cleanse the planet. Of course the aliens are infuriated by those stupid robots blowing **** up so they activate the cannon which Optimus Primal blows up, though at a cost of his life (he returns later on, so dont worry). So the planet is left with one moon... See were this is going?

Yes, its earth! In prehistoric times. Although the robots are descendats of the G1 ones, they somehow traveled through space and time and found themselves on prehistoric earth, where the Ark and the Nemesis are entombed and the G1 robots are in stasis. The next 10 episodes are about the Maximals protecting the Ark from the Predacons who want to end the Great War at its beginning, by killing Optimus Prime so that Megatron can prevail when he wakes up!

Isnt that cool or what?

 

[The Chris]

Btw does anybody know what Prime says right after he jumps off Grindor whose head he just tore in half? He whispers something...

Piece of tin I think.

 

[Balthus Dire]

+I watched the first episode of Beast Wars and it weirded me out. I guess I am not used to that version of Transformers.

I prefer the autobots transforming into cars and s***. Bumblebee is my fave :heart: next to Optimus Prime.

The first season isn't that great, but by season 3 the show is amazing. Seriously you should give it a chance. It starts off kind of kiddy but as the seasons progress there's amazing character development and all sorts of twists and turns. By the end of the show when they start killing off characters you actually care when they die because it's very well written.

Seriously it's great.

 

[Mr. Earle]

Piece of tin I think.

Thanks man. I didnt catch it when i saw the movie. I was expecting something more badass... But its ok!

 

[The Guard]

It is there in skeletal form, and in that shape it might as well not have been there at all. The story for this film would have been about the same if it had been a power point presentation with slides saying "Sam has to find his place!" and "Sam sets out to find the Matrix of Leadership!" between videos of the action sequences.

I disagree. I think you're simplifying it to make your point. And I get where you're coming from, but while there's not a lot here, there's a lot more than "skeleton" here. It would be like me saying that because Bruce and Rachel's "love scenes" only last a few minutes each, and there are only a few of them, that there's no love story, or point to the love story in THE DARK KNIGHT.

The distinction seems irrelevant. I already told you that I am not capable of dispensing premises upon the insertion of a quarter, even if the premise was my problem.

Then it seems irrelevant, I guess. It's not, though. Asking for suggestions about what would be better isn't me demanding anyone to better this material. And again, I'm not just talking about you, Saint. Surely an entire cadre of Transformers fans, many of them die-hards, could/would/should have some idea what they would like to see beyond "Sam Witwicky and The Matrix of Leadership", right?

Does Batman killing Two-Face work in context? This isn't a trap; I want to know.

I don't think it's neccessary for the end result they wanted, which is Dent being out of the picture, Gotham feeling hopeless, and Batman on the run. I think it does a disservice to the mythos a bit.

But does it work? Yes. It serves as the logical, realistic conclusion to his "I won't kill" arc in THE DARK KNIGHT. The reality of the situation is, he probably couldn't avoid doing so, and not see innocents suffer.

Now, I prefer a Batman who, morality notwithstanding, may actually be flawed in the sense that he doesn't realize how much his inability to kill potentially harms Gotham.

But yes, it works.

The G1 hard on most people have needs to stop. I loved the cartoon, but I can still see how terribly cheesy and corny some of the stuff was. I'm glad that we've got many different Transformers cartoons, because every cartoon brings something new to the table. Good things, as well as bad things.

I love that these movies have incorporated elements of G1, both comics and the cartoons, Beast Wars, and a number of other versions of the mythos.

What I never understood about dinobots...

How is it that normal Transformers pretty much resemble cars, but dinobots just look like robot versions of dinosaurs? Is it because they're machines, and they have to scan metal stuff?

 

[Mr. Para-Normal]

I was talking with a friend yesterday who had just saw the movie and he liked it despite the flaws. As we were talking he brought up some valid points about people whinning and complaining about the film and the humor. First the humor that is in this movie is also in Movies like 40 year old virgin, Superbad, etc. People love The Hangover but it has a guy in a man thong in the first 5-10 mintues the movie and FULL male nudity later on the naked Asian guy in the trunk of the car. Even Family guy has immature and sometimes in bad taste jokes on the show as well. But this movie has that kind of humor in and all of a sudden its a crime and awful etc. Well you should hate all the movies and show that I mentioned above. I know the haters will come with bs saying that this is a action movie or whatever but still the humor is the same as some other movies. ( I like the family guy and the movies that was listed FYI).

Second the general public seems to love these movies because FIRST and Foremost they are meant to entertain NOT to be taken SUPER SERIOUS like you haters would like it to be. The general public does not see this movies solely for a story they see them to be entertained and to watch Robots fight each other. Its kind of like people who saw the new friday the 13th movie they just wanted to see people get killed. That movie had a paper thin story and was top at the box office. Sure this movie had plot holes but NO movie is perfect. Even the Dark Knight had plotholes and things that were not really nesscary. Example Gordon says Two- Face killed 5 people but they NEVER show or mention WHO those 5 people were. We only see Two- Face kill 2 maybe 3 people (We dont know if Maroni survived the car crash). Also the Hong kong scenes while cool were not really nesscary to the overall story. Lou was just a minor character, Also the the Resse arch with him finding out that Bruce was batman really could have been cut they could have waited and used that story arch for the 3rd movie. I also would have liked to have know a little bit of the Jokers background/ Origins we get two different stories from the joker but who knows which is the truth lol. ( And yea I know its from the killing joke graphic novel).

So you see any movie can be nitpicked and analyzed if you WANT to look for things to complain and whine about. The Transformers movies may be chessy and have flaws with the story but I enjoyed it and so did LOTS of other people as well. 200 million at the box office is very strong and it shows that people didnt care what the critics said about the movie ( The movie got HUGE applause at both sold out showings that I went to over the weekend). The movie dosent take its self seriously it should be obvious by the humor it meant to ENTERTAIN people!! Haters lighten up not every movie has to be like a oscar contender or a dark knight to be good. End Rant!!