Revenge of the Fallen Transformers: ROTF User Review Thread

[Nathan]

I thought the first hour was really strong, but after Optimus's death the movie went downhill. Because you follow Sam and his group, consisting mostly of complete idiots (Simmons, Leo, the Twins), for pretty much the rest of the Movie.

 

[Rock Sexton]

I thought the first hour was really strong, but after Optimus's death the movie went downhill. Because you follow Sam and his group, consisting mostly of complete idiots (Simmons, Leo, the Twins), for pretty much the rest of the Movie.

I really started to lose interest once Sam got to school and when we were introduced to that government official who was meddling in the affairs of NEST.

 

[CEREBRAL....]

never thought I'd hear that from you

the dude that took such offense to having his point of view diminished to that of a "hater"

well if you wanna look at it like that. I took the time to actually view everything you write and came up with my assumpation. You on the other hand just used the "quick and dirty" term overly used on message boards now a days.

and honestly dawg anyone looking me and my views a being "hater" really doesn't bother me one bit..... I look at it as a weak attempt to not agree/ or see another posters point of view ..and your other point about Will Smith. Like i said, your a M.Bay apologist so i wouldn't expect anything diff. from what you post.

what classic rolleye deserves another...

one more thing...so shia landing a part in indiana jones was because of his "big break" and TF1?

 

[LinDuh]

Hmm, I'm speaking strictly from a personal perspective here, as a random moviegoer.

For me, Will Smith was really awesome after in Independence Day. Bad Boys was cool, but I think Independence Day was his true fuel to the flame. Definitely couldn't credit Bay's choice to include him in the movie as his huge breakout role. However, I never really knew about Ben Affleck before Armageddon, so in that sense, Bay is totally right. Armageddon was his fuel, I think. Same with Nicholas Cage. In fact, I highly doubt I've seen him in ANYTHING before The Rock. I honestly think that was the first movie I saw him in, the one that told me he exists. Of course I'm aware that the actors were around and winning awards and stuff pre-Bay movies, but personally speaking, if it wasn't for THESE type of movies, I myself wouldn't have really known about some of the actors that starred in them. Not for awhile anyway. That goes for Shia and Megan for me too. I had no idea who Megan was until Transformers, and Shia, well...I just knew he was that one kid from that movie Holes. But as far as a name for his face? Yeah, I had nothing. Transformers totally put him on the map for me. It was then and only THEN was I interested in seeing his other work, like Disturbia.

So all in all, I don't think Bay was implying that he "made" these actors. I don't even think he was claiming that he "made" their careers. He seems, to me anyway, to be taking credit for being a part of a boost in their careers by his movies. I do think that his big films, no matter how great or crappy or boring or awesome or whatever else they can be to everyone, were definitely a burst of fuel to the already kindled fires of certain actors careers. They've lured in a big audience compiled of people like myself who are looking for that mindless action, and then wonder who it was in the movie that helped bring that action to life. We "suckers for explosive action movies" swarmed in huge numbers that in turn made the movies successful, and hence, allow all the actors involved to have a huge boost in recognition.

Did it always work that way? Nah. Many of Bay's movies didn't really seem to help in really boosting the careers of the actors that starred in them. So it's not like a guarantee or anything. But he's defiitely right about Megan, though. I'm guessing that's why he kinda lashed out at her. Hmm, then again, when it comes to Megan it seems like she was talking about acting in general and not actors themselves. Perhaps it was just luck that he happened to be tied to movies that people just wanted to see at the time that coincidentally helped the careers of the aforementioned actors. *shrug*

Oh I don't know and probably don't even really care. I'm just bored...

 

[terry78]

Though you have to be honest, if you ever have a role in a Bay movie, and you ain't that well known as an actor, you will get some recognition, whether good or bad.

 

[LinDuh]

Though you have to be honest, if you ever have a role in a Bay movie, and you ain't that well known as an actor, you will get some recognition, whether good or bad.

Quoted for truth. I totally agree.

 

[The Lizard]

Speaking of Will Smith and Independence Day, I re-watched that movie over the July 4th weekend.
While there are a lot of plot-holes and silly crap in ID4, I took note of the fact that the main destruction scenes where NYC, LA and DC are destroyed were much, MUCH better filmed than the destruction scenes in ROTF when the Decepticons come crashing down.

 

[Marvin]

Speaking of Will Smith and Independence Day, I re-watched that movie over the July 4th weekend.
While there are a lot of plot-holes and silly crap in ID4, I took note of the fact that the main destruction scenes where NYC, LA and DC are destroyed were much, MUCH better filmed than the destruction scenes in ROTF when the Decepticons come crashing down.

wow, thank you,
the final nail in the coffin, ID4 the movie about cities being blown up by aliens has better "filmed" destruction scenes

funny enough, bay would probably hate hearing that.

beyond the inept subjectivity of such a comparison

TF had other things to think about.

besides that film is filled with miniatures, which have alot of benefits but at the same time

always lack in lighting and can always been spotted when looked for.

still to compare id4 and TF2
you guys are grasping

try Armageddon.

 

[roach]

Really people if you dont like the movie then dont like it but dont come up with off the wall reasons

 

[Jake Cassidy]

Independence Day rocked. So did Armageddon.

I don't care what anyone says, I love that stuff. t:

 

[Jake Cassidy]

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[Marvin]

well if you wanna look at it like that. I took the time to actually view everything you write and came up with my assumpation. You on the other hand just used the "quick and dirty" term overly used on message boards now a days.

you took the time to read all my writings?
I'm honored

weather your stupid assumption is right or wrong, for you do the same thing that you spoke out so vehemently against is..

hypocritical and ridiculous

and reading all my writings as i'm sure you did, you know how I feel about hypocrisy.

and honestly dawg anyone looking me and my views a being "hater" really doesn't bother me one bit..... I look at it as a weak attempt to not agree/ or see another posters point of view ..and your other point about Will Smith. Like i said, your a M.Bay apologist so i wouldn't expect anything diff. from what you post.

wow 5 lines of self contradiction...

what classic rolleye deserves another...

I should stop using them, they probably come off as snobby.

one more thing...so shia landing a part in indiana jones was because of his "big break" and TF1?

if it came after his big break then sure

moreover, i'm sure no one went into india jones and saw shia and asked, "do I know that kid from somewhere...nah"

as far as him landing the part, I'm sure the auditions were tense what with him being that kid from the huge transformers movie from the previous year produced by the same company.

insert eye roll smiley here

 

[terry78]

Shia is Spielberg's golden boy currently. His last few flicks have been exec produced or directed by him, so he's got the ties in the industry.

 

[Jake Cassidy]

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[Episode29]

Shia is Spielberg's golden boy currently. His last few flicks have been exec produced or directed by him, so he's got the ties in the industry.

It's true. That dude was being groomed for stardom by many for a while. I remember hearing how he had grabbed Spielberg's attention around the time of Holes. I'd say Disturbia put him on the map, while TF launched into the mainstream consciousness.

 

[dodgers2213]

i'll keep this simple....this movie SUCKED. It really pissed me off

 

[Jake Cassidy]

It's kinda funny how a MOVIE can piss people off.

That happened to me after I watched Spider-Man 3. I was so angry that I walked out of the cinema kicking the walls, ripping apart posters, throwing bins and randomly punching people in the face. I also kicked this fat bastard in the balls. I was so PISSED OFF!!!

Oh wait, no I didn't. I just said to myself, "That was a piece of ****." Than I went home, watched X-Men and forgot about it. t:

 

[Marvin]

I was pissed off after blade 3

I vowed never to pay my taxes again

 

[Jake Cassidy]

I like Blade 3.

Yeah. That's right. I said it.

 

[terry78]

Speak of the devil, ID4 is on TNT at this very moment.

 

[The Lizard]

wow, thank you,
the final nail in the coffin, ID4 the movie about cities being blown up by aliens has better "filmed" destruction scenes

funny enough, bay would probably hate hearing that.

beyond the inept subjectivity of such a comparison

TF had other things to think about.

besides that film is filled with miniatures, which have alot of benefits but at the same time

always lack in lighting and can always been spotted when looked for.

still to compare id4 and TF2
you guys are grasping

try Armageddon.

Wow -- another widely spaced, snotty post that manages not to say very much -- thanks once again for that.

"TF had other things to think about" ? LOL... Whatever that means.
Bay obviously tried to insert a violent, shocking devastation scene into ROTF as an homage to his own earlier disaster films (funny how Bay only includes "homages" to himself, but that's another issue).
Overlooking the fact that the devastating disaster scenes in ROTF actually have the gall to reference 9/11 while being shoehorned inbetween lame extended comedy segments involving Sam's parents and humping robots, they also fail on a visceral level when compared to those seen in ID4.
The editing of the main alien attack in ID4 gives us scenes that actually linger on the expanding devastation and aftermath of the aliens' death-rays, unlike Bay's 3-seconds-is-too-much school of editing.

Despite the many silly parts in ID4, these main destruction scenes delivered an effective punch to the movie audiences, and I recall very well the stunned silence in the theater when those particular scenes ended in ID4. In ROTF, the audience response after the big "Armageddon" scenes seemed to be merely impatience to get back to the robot action. Despite the jarring and out-of-place imagery of thousands of sailors and civilians dying in the midst of the comedy that was ROTF, those scenes didn't even take the time to deliver their punch in the most effective way.

BTW -- just for fun I'll mention that I also watched Bad Boys 2 this weekend -- and even it is more coherent and better-edited than ROTF. Simply put -- Bay could have done a lot better than he did with this film - even in comparison with his own work.

But by all means -- please continue with your own grasping.

 

[CelticPredator]

It's kinda funny how a MOVIE can piss people off.

That happened to me after I watched Spider-Man 3. I was so angry that I walked out of the cinema kicking the walls, ripping apart posters, throwing bins and randomly punching people in the face. I also kicked this fat bastard in the balls. I was so PISSED OFF!!!

Oh wait, no I didn't. I just said to myself, "That was a piece of ****." Than I went home, watched X-Men and forgot about it. t:

Movies that PISSED me off.

Saw 3
AvP
AvP-R
Spider-Man 3
Fantastic Four 2
Epic Movie
Meet the Spartans
Wolverine
AvP-R
Everyone of those PG-13 Japanese Horror remakes. (kmaybe exluding The Ring)

 

[dodgers2213]

You know why this movie really pisses me off?

the fact that the 250 million or so dollars was WASTED on this hunk of junk. The movie could have went to feeding starving children or heck...GIVE IT ME and i'll direct a better picture...fix the potholes here in Los Angeles, goddamn do something else. What a truly waste of money for a godawful movie by a hack director who should be waiting in the unemployment line like the rest of us

Michael bay is laughing at everyone in America...he got a huge pay day for doing nothing. He doesn't give a s*** do i dont give a s***

 

[Asr]

It ticks me off that Bay put so little effort into this movie, raked in megabucks from unsuspecting moviegoers, and is now laughing all the way to the bank.

I don't think the movie is "terrible" per se, but it isn't hard to imagine that Bay didn't really do much and tons of suckers paid for this and now Bay will just go on to make more hollow explosion-filled action movies summer after summer, while better directors who'll make better movies reap fewer rewards. The whole system reeks of injustice....

I wish Bay would just stop making movies and filling the theaters with mindless popcorn flicks.

 

[craigdbfan]

You know why this movie really pisses me off?

the fact that the 250 million or so dollars was WASTED on this hunk of junk. The movie could have went to feeding starving children or heck...GIVE IT ME and i'll direct a better picture...fix the potholes here in Los Angeles, goddamn do something else. What a truly waste of money for a godawful movie by a hack director who should be waiting in the unemployment line like the rest of us

Michael bay is laughing at everyone in America...he got a huge pay day for doing nothing. He doesn't give a s*** do i dont give a s***

Take a chill pill and calm down.

Its Paramounts money and its shareholders they can do whatever they want with it.